They called me a child pornographer

reply to post by Helmkat


Again read the Op this is the UK we're dealing with, at this poitn it's not America.

I lived on the coast in California for almost 28 years. I then spent 1.5 years in Wisconsin and I'm currently stuck in the desert in Arizona and can't wait to get back to the ocean.

I used to walk the beach all the time. Part of it was the nude beach and there was always families there. Mom, Dad and the kids, all enjoying the sun and the ocean and if there was any freaks or pedophiles there they did a good job of hiding themselves.

The kids were always having a blast playing in the sand and running in and out of the water.

I have to say, the folks in the midwest and here in the desert are way too uptight to understand something as natural and innocent as what these people were doing.

I even enjoyed the feeling of laying in the sun and playing in the waves au natural. I'll take an open attitude over uptight landlocked bible thumpers any day.

But there are freaks out there we have to protect the kids from. That's also a reality.

reply to post by spacedonk

This is a very old story. Hasn't it been covered here before?

Originally posted by ldyserenity
I saw a show on lifetime about that very same thing, hence, I have never taken that madatory shots of mine....it's like you gotta watch every little thing you do, have one beer in public, you could lose your children!!!! It's gotten that bad!!!!

I saw the same show, it's called "Snap Decision", and it's also based on a true story:

www.imdb.com...

Her Chicago friend Carrie Dixon (Felicity Huffman) takes photographs of the children as they innocently play. However, the photo lab that develops Carrie's pictures sends the contact sheet and negatives to the police, fearing child abuse and child pornography.

The teleplay by Ara Watson and Sam Blackwell, based on a story inspired by real events by Randy Sue Coburn, presents a tale of injustice since we are witness to the behavior that created the photographs, including how some of them were actually taken by Lauren.

But I've got news for you, your child doesn't even have to be naked, nor does there have to be any sex in the photo for you to be accused of Child pornography.

Federal case may redefine child porn

Jeff Pierson is a photographer whose action shots of hopped-up American autos laying waste to the asphalt at Alabama dragways have appeared in racing magazines and commercial advertisements.

Pierson's Web site boasted he has the "most wonderful wife in the world and two fantastic daughters." And until recently, he ran a business called Beautiful Super Models that charged $175 for portraits of aspiring models under 18.

In a federal indictment announced this week, the U.S. Department of Justice accused Pierson, 43, of being a child pornographer--even though even prosecutors acknowledge there's no evidence he has ever taken a single photograph of an unclothed minor.

That's right, you can now be accused of child porn even for taking pictures of kids with clothes on!

This is a far cry from what folks normally think of as child pornography."

the photographs in question depicted girls wearing everything from sweaters to, more frequently, swimsuits and midriff-baring attire. Parents appear to have given their consent.

So maybe we should stop taking any pictures of our kids at all, if virtually any picture can be deemed child porn, even if there's no nudity involved?

When will the madness end?

OMG what a horrendous nightmare for those families. How many more have suffered the same terrible experience. The writer's skill has enabled him to really communicate what it felt like for them all to go through this.

The course of action taken by the very agenices which are supposed to protect children, in fact created a situation which was damaging to the whole family. It is as though, overnight, their innocenc e was violated and ripped from them.

I can forgive the over-zealous employee who reported the photos, there is so much publicity about child abuse and pedophilia these days that I guess he/she thought they were doing their best to protect children.

It is the authorities who I believe acted in a crazed manner. Surely ait's common sense that assessment should have been made, by a competent person, BEFORE the whole terrifying and accusatory legal machinery was rolled out. There are so many aspects of the way it was handled which are just plainly very, very WRONG.

The experience of powerlessness within the process which the parents experienced must have been horrendous to cope with. And even when they knew there was no case to be answered, it seems the Authorities continued to humiliate and damage this family. I cannot understand why the children had to be interviewed when they had already seen there was no case to be answered.

Sadly, I think the quotation by Hitler, posted earlier, has real significance in what is going on.

All the tactics being used by the authorities, in many areas of life and society, seem to be straight from the Nazi handbook, and that is no coincidence. The destruction of the family, the installation of fear and a sense of powerlessness, the destruction of sound ethical values, the destruction of innocence, financial hardship, poverty, etc, etc, are all so many ways of imposing and advancing their sick NaZionist,agenda.

It is strategy, it is planned and it is deliberate.

Worst of all, increasing amounts of evidence exist which point to widespread child abuse and paedophilia among the eiltes themselves.
Look, for example, at the degree of paedophilia which is being exposed in the Vatican and the Catholic Church these days.

There are many thousands of complaints of sexual abuse of children which have been filed against members of the Catholic Church, but in most cases police don't pursue them.

Many hundreds of thousands of children go missing every year, and there is increasing information coming out which points to the existence of global, widespread child trafficking rings, which are implemented and protected by national authorities.

I can't help wondering whether the emphasis on child crimes in the MSM, horrendous though they are, isn't also a means of creating a smoke screen in the minds of the public to once again deflect attention from what TPTB themselves are up to. After all, the MSM is the propaganda machine for the Criminals.

And don't forget how they regularly and predictably use doublespeak to blame others for the very things of which they themselves are guilty.

See the banned: 'Appalling Conspiracy of Silence' article and video on:
www.rense.com...

See also this chapter from 'George Bush. The Unauthorised Biography'
www.hiddenmysteries.com...

Do a Google search on Hollie Grieg, from the UK, and you will see the machinery at work in Scotland in all its terrible corruption.

It is sick, worse than sick, what is going on amongst the Nazi/Zionist elites of this world.

Here's a list of media articles on paedophilia and the higher echelons:

www.whale.to...

Originally posted by NoJoker13
reply to post by Helmkat

 

Again read the Op this is the UK we're dealing with, at this poitn it's not America.

The article says Georgia in the US? I just checked. Read the first paragraph.

Shortly before Thanksgiving 2004, I took my three kids camping in Mistletoe State Park near Augusta, Ga., with my best friend and his two kids. After six years in Savannah, my family was about to move to France for my wife's new job

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On topic.

Those of you in my age group might remember that nearly all family albums had a customary photo of each baby born on a furry rug of some kind, bottoms up and staring at the camera lens. The photographers kept a fake bear skin in their studio's and the photo was part of the package they offered. That and bronzed baby shoes, often at the foot of a framed picture.

That story left me emotionally drained. I'm starting to long for the sane world I grew up in, before the Government became the center of our Universe. When you could call a horses ass a horses ass and get applause instead of a lawsuit.

Since I'm old enough to know now that those who yell loudest are always the most guilty, I wonder if those working for CPS are all Pedophiles themselves? What better cover for a Pedophile than that?

Keeps us suspicious of each other and we won't watch what they are doing.



[edit on 7/20/2010 by Blaine91555]

Originally posted by NoJoker13
reply to post by Helmkat

 

Again read the Op this is the UK we're dealing with, at this poitn it's not America.

As already pointed out, Savannah Ga is America

I've seen a number of these stories now and it leaves me with two thoughts.

1. The parent obviously considers these images innocent (because they are) and yet the person dealing with the photos considers them sexual, does this not suggest more about the person processing the photographs? Guilty conscience perhaps.

2. If we are to investigate everyone who has naked pictures of their children then wouldn't we be locking up pretty much all parents? I know my own parents have pictures of both my brother and i naked, they take them out everytime i bring a girl home.

I think the biggest point to be made here is that you are now guilty until proven innocent in this county (US). Every protection the citizen had from the government has been removed thanks to the Patriot Act. This can happen to anyone on here or anywhere at any time.
The Bible said: "When they say peace and safety, RUN!" and they were not kidding! Everything including lies will now be used against you in court. Simple as that.
I've had to tell people not to take those pics of their kids for this exact reason. A friend who is a teacher (pre-school) told me that they are told to report these things, regardless of how innocent it seems.
Was fear of terrorists really worth this?
I wonder.....

reply to post by mothershipzeta

Originally posted by DaWhiz
I think the biggest point to be made here is that you are now guilty until proven innocent in this county (US). Every protection the citizen had from the government has been removed thanks to the Patriot Act. This can happen to anyone on here or anywhere at any time.
The Bible said: "When they say peace and safety, RUN!" and they were not kidding! Everything including lies will now be used against you in court. Simple as that.
I've had to tell people not to take those pics of their kids for this exact reason. A friend who is a teacher (pre-school) told me that they are told to report these things, regardless of how innocent it seems.
Was fear of terrorists really worth this?
I wonder.....

I agree wholeheartedly. But I think the parents went about this the wrong way. They should have been angry about some little prick overreacting to their parenting, not all victimized and sad and pitiful. They should have spoken out about it.

reply to post by Catch_a_Fire


The line is easily drawn, " no cameras in the bathroom, no age limit"

Mother in law was mad that I objected to bath time shots of kids

in the tub but my now adult children do not have to dread pictures

in grandmas' album being passed around for everyone to laugh at

at family reunions.

I remember going skinny all the time when I was a kid. We never thought anything about it. However we live in a much different world now. What used to be innocent behavior is now corrupted and is viewed as obscene.

Parents now need to exercise caution verging on paranoia when it comes to their children's safety.

Imagine the horror of finding out that the photo developer made copies of your naked kids for his own personal gratification, or worse posted them to pedophile sites for the sick pleasure of these deviants.

Sorry that you are going through such a hard time, but it could be a lot worse.

Every day we hear stories about parents sexually abusing kids, even their own.

As a parent I can feel your pain, but I would not let my best friend see my kids naked.....This world is just too far gone!

this is phukked.
and all too believable.

So, they are soo concerned with childrens safety,
they they will destroy good peoples lives over something truly meaningless,
( i mean, it's nice they pretend to care) and its cool they actually look into it if someone reports something........

However~..

here in the united snakes of amerika,

We have a pedophile (ok, more than one).. but there is a man here in the states..
who is now pretending to be a woman...

(remember the guy who "admitted" to killing that jon benet ramsey girl?)

That guy is still "free", still allowed to live in society,
yet the authorities know ALL about his sick and twisted fkn mind..
they see the sick $h!t he puts on the internet and emails...

yet they let him stay in society.
He TALKS about wanting to do sick $h!t to children,
and states that he will...

Yet, he is free,

and someone taking honest pics of their children is something that needs to be looked into?

are you fkng kidding me?!?!?

They dont give a # about children, or anyone or anything else other than their bank accounts and public image.


So what kind of message are they sending?

"You want to be a pedophile? Just do it in the open where everyone knows about it!"

this is fkd.

I have the collection my parents took of me.
I was raised in a nudist family so there are photos of me nude from birth on.
I am 60 now and still a nudist.

I transferred them to digital format a few years ago because the film was breaking down. and yes nudist know where the safe places are to get film developed, we use photo places that are nudist friendly and know the difference from child porn and family photos.
I don't care what the fundies say. There is no way they can call my photos of me child porn nor in Calif get me arrested for having them.
this has been through courts in Calif a number of times.

Yes we have problems with the fundies here in Calif.
On at least one occasion a number of fundies setup and took licence numbers of cars at Blacks Beach of any one that took there kids under 18 down to the nude beach.
These were later turned over to child protective services as complaints of child abuse.

When CPS found out what was happening they started a investigation of the fundies for harassment and filing false claims.

reply to post by ThaLoccster


We filmed the birth of our child It's a beautiful thing. How could it be pornography? The politicians are the real pervs if you think about it.. What's on their mind when they make these ridiculous laws?

I used to run around naked ALL the time when I was 2-5 yrs old.. I would take my clothes off myself! I hated my clothes. Children are smarter than they get credit for if you think about it.

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wait so all those photos of me in the bathtub which is in my family album is child pornography now because the government said so?

If they decide to come knock on the door wanting to take my parents away I definitely will give them a piece of my mind

Originally posted by Catch_a_Fire
Im all for protecting the kids, but a line has to be drawn somewhere and soon.

some people take it definitely too far. I had a friend who was trying to deliver a pizza to his customers house. Some kids were playing in the street (illegal by the way). He was trying to get around them and then got to his customers house. The cops came buy and asked him questions. The customer was pissed and knew who called. She stated to the police officer her neighbor does this to her all the time. If I was my friend, I would of sued the lady who basically defermated my character. People like that lady needs to be informed that most pedophiles are family members. People are freaks.

reply to post by Ahmose


When you are born into this world you enter a freak show. When you are born in America you got front row seats. -George Carlin

that man quote is still correct about how the world works today.