One World Government....I'm game!!

reply to post by sheepslayer247


And therein is the crux of the issue! How to dissolve these divisive concepts and archetypes. even language itself poses a massive barrier.

there must be people like us on here, in those loftier heights of world power. I know there are think tanks and there have been round tables so to speak, for, well all through history that rack their minds over the macro formula, how to take command of evolution itself, not merely biological but informational, memes and genes. Though it seems they see us as mere drone, fully and totally expendable under the crushing weight of the behemoth of cult-ure and "law" and all that these things imply (impose).

We are simply smart robots, totally programmable. Using the reptile mind of man, essentially the brain stalk, devoid of complex free-association, and imaginative thought, only maintaining the bodies important deep seated foundational impulse and cycle.

MacLean contended that the reptilian complex was responsible for species typical instinctual behaviors involved in aggression, dominance, territoriality, and ritual displays.

Reptile brain wikipedia


Fear, Arousal, and security, forms their triune device of emotion with which they seek to conform man towards their idealized reality.


We have been steered haphazardly through the 1000s (if not 10's of 1000's) of years and with the increasing complexity of technologies, now is the time if any for a New Order.

As many of us believe though, this order can only come to fruition with the outright eradication of billions. It is totally possible with nukes.. and even nukes may be passe to the people actually living in the present reality, who know where tech really is.

I think the only thing they are waiting for is an agreement, by all players. an agreement of what will happen after we destroy all of these meaningless people, this fodder.

I know of no other way to proceed at this point than examine myself, correct myself, share with others, help others, and above all stay insane with positive rage.

The future is bright.

Originally posted by sheepslayer247

these beings themselves will represent entire planets, if not entire star systems and galaxies. Earth will be represented by many people as they are not unified as a race, but instead are broken into smaller countries and states that differ in opinion on many issues. These aliens may view us the same way that we view tribes in 3rd world countries because they are not bound to a common goal as a race.

No particular being or race can or should represent a Galaxy.
Neither am I a fan of Miss Universe.
As a matter of fact, no one represents me but me.
Disrespecting someone on the grounds that they belong
to a tribe in itself calls for trouble and should not to be
taken kindly. Planet earth has one to many colonialists
causing troubles as it is.

Originally posted by sheepslayer247
So who would represent us at first contact?

The constitution,
and my little sister.
Any crazies such as the pope, queen, or for that matter any politician
would definitely send the wrong impression.

Originally posted by sheepslayer247
people we must become, we have to understand that aliens will not be interested in what plot of land you came from, but the race they represent. With this in mind, I think that a "one world government" is needed to finally unite humans as a race and bring an end to our differences.

But there are differences that is the reality. If there
wouldn't be differences it wouldn't be earth.
We are not androids.
Btw what is your definition of 'people' ?

Originally posted by sheepslayer247
In the end, I think that a "One world government" is nothing more than a reinforcement of self-governance and individual sovereignty.

That's what Stalin preached.
Be careful what u wish for.

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Originally posted by ToneDeaf

No particular being or race can or should represent a Galaxy.
Neither am I a fan of Miss Universe.
As a matter of fact, no one represents me but me.
Disrespecting someone on the grounds that they belong
to a tribe in itself calls for trouble and should not to be
taken kindly. Planet earth has one to many colonialists
causing troubles as it is.

The tribal reference was not meant to disrespect anyone at all. If thats how it came off, I apoligize. Why can't one being represent a galaxy? One being represents the US, state and other governments. If the people choose one person to represent them, thats their choice.

The constitution,
and my little sister.
Any crazies such as the pope, queen, or for that matter any politician
would definitely send the wrong impression.

How does a peice of paper represent us? Unfortunatly, some sort of breathing being has to represent us. When paper products begin to speak I will consider your suggestion.

But there are differences that is the reality. If there
wouldn't be differences it wouldn't be earth.
We are not androids.
Btw what is your definition of 'people' ?

Of course there are differences in people. I never said there wasn't. Thats why I said that the individual must self-govern for the most part. Local communities and similer orginizations can take the differences of people and apply it better than any federal or national government.

That's what Stalin preached.
Be careful what u wish for.

Source please....

I seems apparent to me that many of us on ATS complain about our current situation, government, etc; but when someone has an idea that is different it is frowned upon as being more of the same. Does anyone really want change in our government? I think not! Most of you would rather keep the status quo and continue to complain about it. Whos the sheep here?

We have a one world government......it's called the UN, and any country that doesnt fall in line with it's agenda.....**BOOM**!!

Heres a Queen song.........



[edit on 29/6/10 by woogleuk]

reply to post by woogleuk


I think we are seeing the beginning of a one world oligarchy, not one world government as I described it. The government structure itself will be broken into segments depending on geographic location, with the UN being the "HQ" of this government.

I can't stress enough that the current government that we see being created in front of our eyes is not what I envision. The power of the individual must be retained at all costs, with the government playing an important but minimal role in our lives.

Doesn't anyone on ATS have a better idea than mine? Many responses have said the my ideas are "Utopic" but not practical. Ok, so give me something better to work with. I refuse to believe that we are bound to keep our current system, repeating history over and over until the end of time. Am I supposed to believe that no matter what we are bound to be slaves of those who wish to control us and we will never make the change for ourselves?

Originally posted by depth om

Originally posted by robbinsj
To OP:

Hope your part of the 80% killed off in the pop control.

The karmic bolt can sear! Careful!

not damning the OP, simply saying in a sarcastic maner that they are wanting to kill off 80% of the world and if 5-10% is the rich and there friends/family's all that is left is 10% slaves.

reply to post by robbinsj


yea and the unnerving part is that all the parameters for that to occur have been met or are capable of being met within a few short years. They have seed banks, DUMBs, nukes, mass media, the energy to do as they please seeing as money can buy nearly any material thing or process of events regarding materials.

Things are ramping up, like the frequency of critical events is increasing and a large percentage of them ultimately generate more momentum towards molding civilization into the classic failed utopia promised to the billions by the soulless royal masters.

It's too much like a movie, it sucks and you can totally tell it's scripted but you can't walk out of the theater

reply to post by sheepslayer247

If you don't trust the elite now, why would you ever trust them with control of the world?

Due to the fact that the world is full of corrupt men/women, a One World Government created by man could mean...

Mandatory membership and allegiance to the OWG

Mandatory RFID

Mandatory tracking devices

More profiling

Less privacy

Huge database containing detailed info on every citizen

Martial law

Gun control

More military

More terror attacks

More wars

More cameras

More drones

More spy satellites

More spies

More corruption

More bribery

More lawyers

More laws

More bureaucracy

More riots

More assassinations

More kidnapping

More torture

More police

More prisons

More executions

More ethnic cleansing

More hidden atrocities

Forced labor

More mental institutes

More taxes

More IRS agents

More census workers

More travel restrictions

More bounty hunters

Government controlled school systems

Mandatory school curriculum

Elimination of private schools

Elimination of home schools

More orphans

Mandatory IQ tests

Government assigned jobs

More government sponsored propaganda

Mandatory euthanasia

Mandatory abortions for Downs Syndrome and other defects

Mandatory birth control

Forced sterilization

Government rationing of food, water, fuel and electricity

More genetically engineered food

Forced dietary control

Government mandated physical fitness regimens

More genetically engineered humans and animals

Prohibition of alcohol and tobacco

Mandatory drug testing of every individual

More confiscation of private property

Government assigned transportation

Less freedom of religion

Less freedom of speech

More censorship of public information - Internet, books, newspapers

Less diversity

Government mandated medical treatments

Forced vaccinations - mixed with mind control pharma

Etc...
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CONTROL - first the world, next the universe. Resistance is futile.






[edit on 29-6-2010 by FearNoEvil]

There is going to be progression and change. What would you suggest?

To me its pretty clear what direction we are going. We are already Corporate Facism. Those still holding on to some American Idealism are not living in reality.

I believe the "pendulum" is going to swing HARD. They people will once again rise up against the machine. Cycles are what we do.

So from what I read so far, there seems to be a theme occurring in this thread.....

We are afraid that the future will be as it is today, simply because that's all we know.

Man cannot self-govern because freedom gives power to men.

Man will exploit that power.

Man is so dumbed-down and complacent that he will not protect his rights against those who exploit power.

There is truth in all of these. Maybe we can never be truly free when we seem to be our own worst enemy. Maybe i am just too optimistic.....

reply to post by Annee


Change is a universal constant. It is sad though that we tend to repeat history many times over.

I think there are only two way this change will go down.

The people will fight tooth and nail against a complete takeover over their lives, giving rise to self-governance and personal responsibility; or we will let tptb take it all from us, while the majority of people have no clue what is happening.

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Originally posted by Annee
There is going to be progression and change. What would you suggest?

To me its pretty clear what direction we are going. We are already Corporate Facism. Those still holding on to some American Idealism are not living in reality.

I believe the "pendulum" is going to swing HARD. They people will once again rise up against the machine. Cycles are what we do.

What is your definition of American Idealism?

I'm a Christian so I believe every problem can be solved by following the teachings of Jesus. So that's my niche in effecting the progression of the world - promote Jesus. However, Jesus has become the focus of much slander and hate - which was predicted. So I expect corruption to increase. I'm basically a Libertarian and a big advocate of freedom. I'm for smaller government with less interference in my private life - two big reasons why I'm against a NWO.

I believe all our problems originate from individuals and not "nations" per say. It starts with the hearts and minds of individual men, women and children. Until God intervenes, man will always be corrupt - and get worse due to the advancement of technology.

I expect a NWO to come in the near future. When it does come, it will look great at first but then corruption will raise it's ugly head and it will be too late to go back.

The fact that corruption exists now is proof that corruption will exist in the NWO. So I think we should try to solve our problems using the existing system - or tweak it a little. I do not like the idea of surrendering my nation's independence and sovereignty to a far removed group of elites with no accountability to me. The further removed our leaders are, the less accountability they have to ME.

I'm looking forward to the coming November elections.

Peace

You are correct the solidifying of the current world powers as the only insource and outsource of everything is not NWO its a old world order on a grander scale the "elite" as the only governance for the many the Shepperd's leading the sheep to what sheep are for, sheering and food. Your one world order is not possible no one entity can represent the whole spectrum of all other entity's. I can't represent you and you sure as hell can't represent me no matter how closely related we are, the best among you is only but human. The Old World Order want a NWO because they already are in power and they want to stay in power that is there main goal "to stay in power" it's there goal as much as the average person want's to keep there land, home and family. The people in power are the same, as those that aren't in there "elite $$$ spectrum". On average they think about the middle class and the poor as much as you would think about them if you were on a vacation in the Bahamas on the beach on a jet sky having fun. That is "not at all"

I agree that there is a need for humans to unify someday, but what makes you think that total control to a NWO will somehow fix your problems, if you give all the power to a one world government it would be the same as today only those in the one world government will be more powerful.

What I am NOT saying is that we need to consolidate the power of our leaders into a one, all-encompassing entity. First thing we have to make sure is understood is that in this new government, the sovereignty of the individual is #1. If this is maintained then all else falls into place. What need would we have for states or countries sovereignty if the individual itself is paramount to all others? All people, no matter where their location on Earth, are granted the same liberties that any other has. The abilities of the government would be limited to what the people allowed it to have, and only able to exist in a way that is favorable to the advancement of the human race. This would create a situation where we could venture into the vastness of space as a species, not as a representative of a plot of land on Earth.

Do you see what is wrong with this quote, you say you want the sovereignty of the individual to be #1. And you think that a NWO will bring it to be, at best all a NWO can be is a central control agency to keep all powers in check. But like anything involving humans instead of keeping the powers that be in check, it will most likely give the powers that be, the power to keep all others but themselves in "check.... mate". This is fact it's been proven throwout history many times, even the current problems come from this old problem.

"What I am NOT saying is that we need to consolidate the power of our leaders into a one, all-encompassing entity"

One can't create a central control power flux and expect it to give sovereignty to individuals, but not the people that consolidate that "all encompassing entity". It's like the creation of guns or the atomic bomb, government no matter how big is just a "tool". The only think one can do is make sure that this tool is kept in check. You give power to any group and no matter how noble or good, eventually well it's been said before "Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely" But power also attracts the corrupted "like fly's to a light source in the night".

In the end, I think that a "One world government" is nothing more than a reinforcement of self-governance and individual sovereignty.

No a One world government is the denying and affirmation that any one group or state is incapable of self-governance and individual sovereignty. The only thing government does well is the pooling of the military might just in case stuff happens. Banding together in the face of a bigger threat, but once the threat is gone it just becomes a power struggle for control, of the few among the many. And today government it seems is not even capable of protecting its own interests or the peoples interests, only the interests of the few among the many ie the elite.

I think that there will be a need for all us humans to unify someday. The state, country and even the Earth are nothing more that a chunk of dirt with imaginary lines that separate people and governments.

Next to family/friends the state and country is more important then any world government. Unless you want to live like a nomad for giant corporations for all time going were they say you should go, and do what they say you should do, a cog in a machine. And the lines separate people but they also are there for a reason, if others pass those lines and do as they will, then you will find out why your ancestors bleed and died for those lines on the map. But I see no reason why one cant have both one world government/coalition and lines on a map, the whole is only as strong as its weakest link, if the tribe, town, state, country is falling apart what do you think a powerful centrifugal power will be other then oppression for its lower states. A one world understanding and coalition can happen only if the weakest link is strong, if not then it becomes idiotic to think that it can be brought on from the top down. A new world coalition can happen in such scenarios, but a new world order is just an attempt by the rich/elite to always be the rich and elite, thats why its an "order".

And dude what make you think aliens care about what humans express themselves as, what makes you even think that they have big governing body's that they are part of. If your self sustainable and could travel millions of years through time/space then big lumbering central powers are a hindrance more then a help in space I would think it's more like a big unified tribe/factions then government. Governments are only for necessity, and for staying in one place for long periods of time ie planets. And as for aliens being impressed by humans who have a habit of saying they represent the whole planet, most humans aren't that stupid why would aliens be, a monkey in a suit and a fancy hat, is still a monkey.

Originally posted by FearNoEvil
reply to post by Annee

 

Originally posted by Annee
There is going to be progression and change. What would you suggest?

To me its pretty clear what direction we are going. We are already Corporate Facism. Those still holding on to some American Idealism are not living in reality.

I believe the "pendulum" is going to swing HARD. They people will once again rise up against the machine. Cycles are what we do.

What is your definition of American Idealism?

I'm a Christian so I believe every problem can be solved by following the teachings of Jesus. So that's my niche in effecting the progression of the world - promote Jesus. However, Jesus has become the focus of much slander and hate - which was predicted. So I expect corruption to increase. I'm basically a Libertarian and a big advocate of freedom. I'm for smaller government with less interference in my private life - two big reasons why I'm against a NWO.

I am a Spiritual Humanist www.spiritualhumanism.org...

So - - you'd need to give me a different argument then Jesus. I 100% support separation of Church and State. ZERO Religion in government.

I am for law. I want to be able to walk around my neighborhood day or night and be safe. I want my children to be able to safely play in their neighborhood. So - what would you call that? "Safe Freedom"?

I support drug use within the home - if those participating can self control. If not - - swift and immediate loss of freedom and a tent prison in the desert. So - what do you call that?

I support legal government control postitution. If anyone is caught as a pimp or worker - - not under government control. Swift and immedate loss of freedom and a tent prison in the desert. So - what do you call that?

People love to throw around the words "Freedom" and less government. What does it really mean?

reply to post by Annee


See you on the other side. Good luck to you.

Originally posted by ~Lucidity
reply to post by Annee

 

See you on the other side. Good luck to you.

The other side of what?

Is there only 2 sides?

i too am down for a one world government, it time to break down the borders between nations, then we can all travel to anywhere we want to on this planet

reply to post by galadofwarthethird


Interesting post! I think we actually agree on a few points:

Humanity will eventually have to unite as one, regardless of race, country, etc.

Power and greed will corrupt any and all forms of government.

We could possibly maintain borders and still reign in a unified system of governance. The borders I speak of are borders of different laws and cultures. If those are broken, we could still maintain laws that cover the most basic need of society.

Originally posted by galadofwarthethird
And dude what make you think aliens care about what humans express themselves as, what makes you even think that they have big governing body's that they are part of. If your self sustainable and could travel millions of years through time/space then big lumbering central powers are a hindrance more then a help in space I would think it's more like a big unified tribe/factions then government. Governments are only for necessity, and for staying in one place for long periods of time ie planets. And as for aliens being impressed by humans who have a habit of saying they represent the whole planet, most humans aren't that stupid why would aliens be, a monkey in a suit and a fancy hat, is still a monkey.

This statement is very important. This embodies exactly what I am talking about! A man could be self-sustaining, travel freely throughout the land and is only responsible for his actions to the local tribes/factions that people have formed outside of the bonds of an overbearing government. You yourself state governments are a necessity, and they are, but Men can still live their lives as free as possible and still have a rule of law.

Originally posted by Kr0nZ
i too am down for a one world government, it time to break down the borders between nations, then we can all travel to anywhere we want to on this planet

Dude you can travel anywhere you want to now, as long as you have the means and the will. I don't understand how having a one world government will help you travel were you want, what is this like the whole Obama thing a while ago were everybody thought that he is going to wave his presidential magic wand and things will fix themselves. How is a one world government going to fix anything? Unless you think they will give out land, houses and money to those that ask. I don't see how a one world government will help anyone, when the government that is in place today doesn't work to well, to me a one world government is like the government all country's have today only they will control the whole world. Don't get me wrong it could be done to the benefit of more populations, but let's just say I don't think they are strong, smart, or dedicated enough to do such a thing. And most likely they will cause more grief then good. The road to hell is paved with good intentions, look both ways before crossing.

Originally posted by galadofwarthethird
Don't get me wrong it could be done to the benefit of more populations, but let's just say I don't think they are strong, smart, or dedicated enough to do such a thing.

You said it. I didn't. It may benefit more people in the end. And who do refer to when you said "they"?

The government isn't smart enough or the people? I know the government is not but the people only have to stand together and work the system out. It would never be a perfect system but if the number of controlling entities (city, county, state, federal, etc) were limited to one, or a select few, the local control of daily life would be maintained by the people. It would force every man to become responsible for his actions and deeds.

Community would reign, not government.