Disillusioned idiots

reply to post by triplesod


Thanks

I'll definitely check that out

I have the answer,

but no one will do it as we have all become culled and castrated sheep

"STOP PAYING TAXES!!!!!" PERIOD!!!

you think the government can jail or charge everyone if they did??

put your money to work for yourself.

too bad you wont want to give up the padded luxuries to do what needs doing. the money gives the power, take away the money, take away the power.

People can survive without all the infrastructure, we've done it before we can do it again. once the existing system is toppled, we can restructure, but how? thats a question most people cant answer.

I liked your post was well written thank you . I agree and understand what your saying.

I quite often feel manipulated and controlled by the TPTB so I decided to look at life in a very different way compared too several years ago so Im trying to figure out away to break free

Ive reached the conclusion that one way for me personnally is on an individual level

This required me to break some long standing habits

1) I no longer buy papers, read papers, watch news on telly. I source my information through the internet alternative media and draw my own conclusions without the properganda machine

2) I no longer accept apply for loans or credit cards i.e. sometime ago I recieved a letter from my credit card provider I phoned them up and told them how dare they without my premission raise my credit limit

3) I spend my money on the things I need rather than what I dont need Im not accepting any longer TPTB trying to persuade me to spend spend spend I save rather than spend what I cant afford

4) While I was born and raised a catholic Ive come to realise through fear guilt power and control, how much religion had control over my life. However I do respect other peoples religions and faiths whether they are christian, muslim, hindu or seki etc

My point being I guess I just got so fed up with institutions msm banks religion etc controlling my life, how much profit they make out of controlling my life. Dont get me wrong profit is ok as long as that profit doesnt turn into greed .i.e. sensationalising and fear mongering for profit

The funny thing is I didnt realise they where doing so upontill several years ago when I started to reseach through web sites such as recently (im a new member) ATS

Sorry that my post has gone off subject a little but your post prompted me to vent a little frustration

Thank god for the internet I am able to find information form difference sources and reach my own conclusion regain control over my life

reply to post by antonia


im not sure which delusional world you came from, where everybody gets to do whatever they want, however they want.. because i would really love to go there.

however, over here in reality, we have this thing called society. and it seems to me that the running theme is...if you want to be part of it, you have to conform to it.

so all that fantasy logic about *why* there is an influx of illegals, is rather meaningless, as it doesnt change how society thinks the process of joining said society...should go. that would be like me showing up to an IBM shareholder meeting and telling them how i want the company managed.. (im not an ibm shareholder)

you never cease to amaze me by pointing out every little aspect of the world you deem unfit, yet offer absolutely no realistic approach to changing it. its like when you play these things out in your head, you only drive it to the point where it appeases your own comfort, then you just completely ignore everything else. And then you get all frustrated because the world isnt magicly how you think it should be.

theres always another side to an arguement, regardless of whether you want to acknowledge it or not. maybe if you spent a little bit of that energy you have from getting so frustrated, on actually inquiring as to *why* the opposition feels/thinks the way that it does, it might make more sense. rather than your typical "i just dont understand".

....more like "i refuse to understand."

YOUR mind is but a fraction of the collective mind. until you understand that, your perspective will remain isolated.

reply to post by Muckster


Excellent post friend.

2nd Line

Great thread muck, SnF for ya!

I'm with you step for step. I'm sure you, as I have, realise the only thing
that's going to stop our slide, into complete and total slavery, is violence.

Why would a person like me say such a thing? A person with the beliefs and moral conviction, I'm supposed to and do posses?
I say it because it is the truth first of all. Violence is all they understand.

It's only obvious by the way the meet peaceful demonstration all over the world. They do not respect peace because they don't have to. That's why we see the same thing all over the world. They use violence, they are swift and they crush their enemies in a decisive way.

Let this be an example of the attitude of TPTB, for I believe you should know your enemy. Make no mistake they are the enemy.



What they would understand is a siege, no not a siege. It would have to be an absolute massacre, involving some people with the right last name. I think the last time something like that happened was in france. To this day the Govt. of France fears it's people.

No mercy could be shown.
We all know how the public uprisings are dealt with.
This is their biggest advantage. Keeping us divided by making sure the
Universaties are filled with people, who teach and preach Evolution and atheism. They keep us divided with that and many other things.

I say give them what they understand in abundance.

[edit on 28-6-2010 by randyvs]

reply to post by Muckster


So ... Do we let those ravaged terrorist pedophile dogs get away with attacking our illegal immigrant war heroes or what?!

i jsut ignore the world around me
works jsut fine/

reply to post by randyvs


Thanks randyvs

Sadly, i think you are correct regarding violence... One way or another, that’s how it will end...

Love the clip... perfect example of TPTB's philosophy

It is beautiful that the hatred of the matrix can bring people together from all over the world. We are united in our cause..

Originally posted by catwhoknows
reply to post by Muckster

 

YES.

Here is my truth - I believe that Jesus Christ was here to save sinners.

I believe that He will come back to save his believers.

I believe in loving your fellowman and forgiving and loving.

And I am against war.

And this world is full of war.

The only way I can understand how this post could be on topic here is that you are inadvertently demonstrating how you are one of the people the name of this thread refers to.

To the OP, I agree with you completely and I gave you "s+fs". Just keep telling people how it is.

edit for grammar error

[edit on 28-6-2010 by elocin]

Propaganda is the key here. Mind control is quite simple...just take a opposite view or take two people with opposite views and let them hash it out on national television. The viewer will look at it and go..."Oh...I agree with him!" Give me a break...obviously thats going to happen from time to time (agreeing with a point of view). My point is they guide your thougth direction and impede on free thinking by way of info overload and fear control.

They can bring an "expert" in and anounce to everyone that we can no longer drink out of cups because (this study) (and that study) shows its not good for (XYZ) reason.

That is why MSM works together to divide and or distract thought process as well as create fear...its quite simple but effective. Thats why all channels are covering "Balloon Boy" or some other completely retarded crap that you would have NEVER been interested in if you friend were to tell you...but since its on TEEVEE its REAL!!!.....LOL.

Such is the world we live in.

reply to post by NonKonphormist

I think the Zeitgeist movie has done alot of good, it certainly has around my own circle of friends etc, (not so sure on the venus project). But it definately got people to look around,blinking a bit, and start to see the world for how it really is and that it doesn't have to be this way, there are alternatives and not just the distorted version the MSM spew out.

If you liked Zeitgeist then I think you will like this little short.

I think it has a powerful message.

Of course, everybody won't get it.

www.youtube.com...

I am a disillusioned idiot and proud of it.

Originally posted by LurkerMan
reply to post by antonia

 

theres always another side to an arguement, regardless of whether you want to acknowledge it or not. maybe if you spent a little bit of that energy you have from getting so frustrated, on actually inquiring as to *why* the opposition feels/thinks the way that it does, it might make more sense. rather than your typical "i just dont understand".

What makes you think i'm frustrated? I don't care anymore. You guys can rant and rave all damn day. Who am I to deny people what they enjoy? You missed the entire point. My point here is that many of you just enjoy being afraid so the issue at hand doesn't even matter. It doesn't matter what it is or the logic of it. People will just be afraid because they are addicted to that state of mind. If it wasn't Illegals, Muslims, White People, whatever they'd find something else to be afraid of.

so all that fantasy logic about *why* there is an influx of illegals, is rather meaningless, as it doesnt change how society thinks the process of joining said society...should go. that would be like me showing up to an IBM shareholder meeting and telling them how i want the company managed.. (im not an ibm shareholder)

I'm not telling society how to act. However, telling people WHY something occurs can give them a really clear idea how to FIX that problem. Let's say you are getting water in your basement. Well, you are gonna have to figure out WHY you are getting water in the basement to effectively fix the problem. You can't just throw up plastic, caulking and cement haphazardly and think it's going to get fixed. If IBM called me because they had issues with their management I would have to tell them why their system was having issues. This would give some clear indicators as to how to fix it. Reactionary sentiments are cute, but you get nothing done.

[edit on 28-6-2010 by antonia]

An idiot, dolt, or dullard is a mentally deficient person, or someone who acts in a self-defeating or significantly counterproductive way. ...

All people cannot be labeled under a blanket term such as "idiot". Most people when confronted with the state of affairs of the world either have no opinion, believe that it does not involve them or have given in to the idea that what they think does not matter. Those that do have an opinion often throw it out without a close examination of the facts relating to it and discount their relevancy.... ok, idiot fits.

reply to post by randyvs


I wish everyone understood what was going on like you and OP. This world would be a much better place. People need to realize there is no Democrat, Republican, Jew, Muslim, black, white, hispanic, man, woman, Labor, Conservative, socialist, Illegal immigrant or any of those labels. There are only humans an the ever increasingly inhuman PTB. Everything else is intended to let us pretend we still have freedom of choice and to divide us against each other. Its a brilliant plan really. ATS is loaded with examples. There is only one agenda: TPTB agenda. Everything else is a distraction.

EDIT: to fix auto-correct and redundancy.

[edit on 6/28/2010 by dbloch7986]

reply to post by Muckster


there is a huge difference too between being fed "controlled" information via the msm and sharing information which is what this site is all about. on ATS everybody and anybody can participate and share what they know, what they see, what they think they know, what they have experienced. at CNN that is definitely not the case. BIIIG difference.

reply to post by Muckster


The cause of most conflicts is difference.

Difference of religion. Difference of race. Difference of political opinion or international policy. Difference of possessions or wealth (apparent in Iraq and Afghanistan's oil and mineral deposits and America's greed to posses them).

It all comes down to who thinks who is wrong and how strongly we feel the need to "teach" them that it's wrong.

Right now Iran is trying to develop nuclear power stations for the people of their nation. The United States could care less about what religion the majority of Iran is, but we do care about the weapons that could be made from nuclear waste. The U.S. wouldn't care so much about a nuclear arsenal if they didn't feel threaten by them (see Pakistan, India and Israel), but the fact is that Iran has made clear it's dislike and contempt for Israel - again, we're back to religion and politics. So the Middle East, once again, prepares itself for more conflict.

It's not so much religion that causes war as much as it is difference. And again, religion, just like politics, is just another way for human beings to separate each other from the rest of humanity.

Until the people of Earth realize that we're all human beings and we all have to share this planet and all things on it, then there will be war.

reply to post by tyranny22


yea until we realize we are all children, equal, and innocent (at birth) and that all suffering is brought on by corrupted memes and symbol, they cycle will repeat and the snake will keep devouring itself to sustain itself.