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Originally posted by ZeroGhost
Like a holograph, there is the whole within the fragment. Even this limited 3D universe makes it all available if you can tune your instrument to it. There are 4D-11D universes too. Each goes beyond forever.
partly correct, it's not alien technology though.
Originally posted by ptmckiou
Much of our technology has come from reverse engineering advanced craft that we have acquired, such as the Roswell craft among others.
Originally posted by InCause
Originally posted by hornum
Originally posted by gordonwest
I heard people talking about the U.S.
I heard people that have been to the U.S.
I have seen soo many pictures-t.v shows-movies about the U.S.
So how would *I* know 100% that the U.S is a real country with real citizens in it?
... because *I* have NOT personaly experienced the U.S in anyway for being there and NOT seeing the place for myself.
How can I belive that the U.S is real?
Do you not understand that it was a stupid example to begin with! i responded with a stupid example! I have been to the US I know it exists!
* I know it IS NOT the same topic, but it is a "example" of the same-basic topic. *
Jump in a plane and fly to the states! Try flying to Malmac and visiting Alf!
Thats a silly example
I started reading this thread because I thought there just might be an intelligent statement coming from it, as point so to speak possible white flag option.
Boy was I wrong !!
After the first page I ran in to your answer on the post from Gordonwest.
You didn't even get his apt example. How simple can someone make an example for someone to get it. I guess this says it all !! You must be very young and uninformed, I will stray from calling you plain dumb. Let me assume the best rather.
It's clear you are completely ignorant about the topic and clearly wouldn't post something like this if you were intelligently seeking truth. So lets teach you how to acquire information.
If you are prepared to spend months doing research, because I think in your case that's what it would take, and in particular observing what experiencers have to offer, then you will eventually arrive at a point where you can ask the question. Will the thousands of highly qualified people in sensitive positions, ranging from the sciences to the military to those in common employment etc etc , ranging geographically the world over, be in this together as a fantastic conspiracy, or are they merely void of a reasonable self esteem and therefor are on an attention seeking journey, in order to gain attention or notoriety. Wrong !! The attention these people get is far from that in the whole!! They mostly get attention in a way that ridicules them, day in and day out from uninformed people like yourself, who do not have it in them to look past the obvious in life and rather decide : let me learn more, or maybe on a deeper level to consider the statement " I am a possibility".
Is it possible for you, just maybe to consider the position of those, that talk about their experiences and share it with the world, find themselves in, in their daily life. Consistent ridicule from those like you. I wonder how long you would take such a beating. It's not fun believe me!
Yes there are people who tell stories that are not the truth. That's life, but in your wildest dream, not everyone is lying or delusional or attention seeking. Use just a little uncommon sense!
Do you think by any yardstick that it's fun, enjoyable, a way to live a life when you have a doctorate in Physics, Astro Physics, Engineering Mathematics and the like, to toss all this down a toilet in the hope you can stroke your ego a bit ? Have you any idea what it takes to study these sciences and achieve a D ? Countless people that have walked this academic journey around the world have had these experiences.
Here is a question you maybe want to ask yourself personally !
Did you maybe consider why they have been contacted or are in a more privileged position to know and not "wonder" like you.
Don't "wander" my friend.
Do the work and do it fast, before you publicly decide to advertise the level of your thoughts. Don't shoot yourself in the foot before you even get into the trenches, let alone the front-line.
In life there are three types of people. Those that are dead because they are not breathing, those that are alive because they have chosen to become more of who they are and less of what they have been and then there are those that are the un-dead. They are not dead because it can be seen that they are breathing.Hope this helps.
Originally posted by A boy in a dress
'Aliens Do Not Exist!'
Great... I'm laid here miles above the earth on a cold steel
slab and I've missed the England/Algeria game.
To boot, I've a large tube inserted in my.... OW! that hurt.
I wish Icke was here to control these li'l gray bas... OW!
Anyway, thank you for your insight, Hornum and hopefully
these little b*ggers will leave me alone.
OW!
Originally posted by Kojiro
Originally posted by ZeroGhost
Like a holograph, there is the whole within the fragment. Even this limited 3D universe makes it all available if you can tune your instrument to it. There are 4D-11D universes too. Each goes beyond forever.
Actually, if you put some stock in String Theory, we already do live in an 11-dimensional universe. It's just that we can't perceive the other 7 dimensions like we do the other four (Time is a dimension) because they're so closely and tightly wrapped around each other (or in the case of the 11th, widely wrapped outside of our universe).
Originally posted by InCause
Originally posted by hornum
Originally posted by gordonwest
I heard people talking about the U.S.
I heard people that have been to the U.S.
I have seen soo many pictures-t.v shows-movies about the U.S.
So how would *I* know 100% that the U.S is a real country with real citizens in it?
... because *I* have NOT personaly experienced the U.S in anyway for being there and NOT seeing the place for myself.
How can I belive that the U.S is real?
* I know it IS NOT the same topic, but it is a "example" of the same-basic topic. *
Jump in a plane and fly to the states! Try flying to Malmac and visiting Alf!
Thats a silly example
I started reading this thread because I thought there just might be an intelligent statement coming from it, as point so to speak possible white flag option.
Boy was I wrong !!
After the first page I ran in to your answer on the post from Gordonwest.
You didn't even get his apt example. How simple can someone make an example for someone to get it. I guess this says it all !! You must be very young and uninformed, I will stray from calling you plain dumb. Let me assume the best rather.
It's clear you are completely ignorant about the topic and clearly wouldn't post something like this if you were intelligently seeking truth. So lets teach you how to acquire information.
If you are prepared to spend months doing research, because I think in your case that's what it would take, and in particular observing what experiencers have to offer, then you will eventually arrive at a point where you can ask the question. Will the thousands of highly qualified people in sensitive positions, ranging from the sciences to the military to those in common employment etc etc , ranging geographically the world over, be in this together as a fantastic conspiracy, or are they merely void of a reasonable self esteem and therefor are on an attention seeking journey, in order to gain attention or notoriety. Wrong !! The attention these people get is far from that in the whole!! They mostly get attention in a way that ridicules them, day in and day out from uninformed people like yourself, who do not have it in them to look past the obvious in life and rather decide : let me learn more, or maybe on a deeper level to consider the statement " I am a possibility".
Is it possible for you, just maybe to consider the position of those, that talk about their experiences and share it with the world, find themselves in, in their daily life. Consistent ridicule from those like you. I wonder how long you would take such a beating. It's not fun believe me!
Yes there are people who tell stories that are not the truth. That's life, but in your wildest dream, not everyone is lying or delusional or attention seeking. Use just a little uncommon sense!
Do you think by any yardstick that it's fun, enjoyable, a way to live a life when you have a doctorate in Physics, Astro Physics, Engineering Mathematics and the like, to toss all this down a toilet in the hope you can stroke your ego a bit ? Have you any idea what it takes to study these sciences and achieve a D ? Countless people that have walked this academic journey around the world have had these experiences.
Here is a question you maybe want to ask yourself personally !
Did you maybe consider why they have been contacted or are in a more privileged position to know and not "wonder" like you.
Don't "wander" my friend.
Do the work and do it fast, before you publicly decide to advertise the level of your thoughts. Don't shoot yourself in the foot before you even get into the trenches, let alone the front-line.
In life there are three types of people. Those that are dead because they are not breathing, those that are alive because they have chosen to become more of who they are and less of what they have been and then there are those that are the un-dead. They are not dead because it can be seen that they are breathing.Hope this helps.
Originally posted by JPhish
reply to post by hornum
well unless you believe that TPTB have advanced anti-gravitational technology, i can assure you that you are 100% wrong.
Originally posted by hornum
My point is that I now know aliens don't exist and that you who believe in such things are wrong!
Originally posted by Springer
Originally posted by Malcram
I have no problem with skeptics. This thread is not about skeptics, but those who have made up their mind that there is nothing to investigate, because ETs don't exist and the whole investigation is futile and pointless.
Those type are what the "ALERT" button is for. People who espouse such bollocks are not here to discuss and therefor will not be tolerated period.
This is a discussion forum.
I would caution you that just because you think that's what somebody meant in a post isn't going to get their post removed.
They would literally have to be as crass as what you've written. If they do that, then the post is OFF TOPIC and will be removed if it is brought to the attention of the staff.
Also remember this, with well over 6,000 new posts a day, we need the help of the membership to see posts like this and deal with them.
That's why the ALERT BUTTON exists... (is there an echo in here?)
Springer...
Originally posted by Malcram
Originally posted by hornum
My point is that I now know aliens don't exist and that you who believe in such things are wrong!
Compare this with ATS Owners comments regarding threads like this.
Originally posted by Springer
Originally posted by Malcram
I have no problem with skeptics. This thread is not about skeptics, but those who have made up their mind that there is nothing to investigate, because ETs don't exist and the whole investigation is futile and pointless.
Those type are what the "ALERT" button is for. People who espouse such bollocks are not here to discuss and therefor will not be tolerated period.
This is a discussion forum.
I would caution you that just because you think that's what somebody meant in a post isn't going to get their post removed.
They would literally have to be as crass as what you've written. If they do that, then the post is OFF TOPIC and will be removed if it is brought to the attention of the staff.
Also remember this, with well over 6,000 new posts a day, we need the help of the membership to see posts like this and deal with them.
That's why the ALERT BUTTON exists... (is there an echo in here?)
Springer...
Mods, 24 pages of this BS already.
[edit on 18-6-2010 by Malcram]
Originally posted by draevin
Originally posted by hornum
Originally posted by Sozen94
How can there not be other life in space? Thinking that is just plain ignorance.
Out of the millions of galaxies and the billions of stars in them, there has to be life out there.
Actually saying what you are saying is ignorant as the possibilty of there being none is just as possible.
How is it just as possible?
It's just as possible that I am a flying unicorn typing with a magical quarter, that it is I am just some guy at a computer.
I guess...
[edit on 17-6-2010 by draevin]