Aliens Do Not Exist!

reply to post by hornum

the craft you are talking about are unmanned and they are pretty cool. The extraterrestrials you refer to that are abducting humans are not extraterrestrial in origin and I don't deny that abductions happen. The historical texts you speak of have been raided/manipulated and translated incorrectly to look that way, presuming you are speaking of Sumer, Egypt that kind of stuff.

They are some pretty big claims...and rather speculative...I think it's easier to simply conclude some are man made and some are extraterrestrial in origin...until you can actually provide any further proof of your hypothesis...my opinion wont waver...

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Originally posted by FateAtkinson
Text Bluereply to post by hornum

 

That first part was a typo, I actually meant to say that it doesnt mean everythings unfair. And it isnt blind faith that people believe in God? Do you? I know for a fact that someone or something created us. Scientist have proclaimed that the odds of human DNA just coming together in the complex sequence they are is about the sme as a 747 landing on the roof of a random house and house surviving intact. My belief in aliens is the same as you believing in God. You dont know for sure, youve never seen him, and yet you believe. It's not blind faith then is it? And the Vatican has anounced that they believe in aliens and that it doesnt contradict their beleif in Him. Mull that over for a while, wont ya?

Yes I believe in God and you can refer to my faith in that as you like, it isnt blind faith in my opinion, just mmy opinion. I believe we were created yes. Don't get me started on the Vatican thats a whole other post!

Originally posted by CHA0S
reply to post by hornum

 

They are some pretty big claims...and rather speculative...I think it's easier to simply conclude some are Aliens and some are extraterrestrial in origin...until you can actually provide any further proof of your hypothesis...my opinion wont waver...

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Aliens are extraterrestrial in origin by definition, atleast to my understanding?

reply to post by hornum

Yes I believe in God

Show us any "evidence and proove" that God is real. *IF* you can't then he isn't real.

I dont think your faith is blind faith and i respect your beliefs. But you have no right to come and say my faith is blind faith because it is the same as you beliefs, so dont act like a jerk. In a way Gods and aliens are the same thing. Celestial beings that come down from the heavens.

Originally posted by gordonwest
reply to post by hornum

 

Yes I believe in God

Show us any "evidence and proove" that God is real. *IF* you can't then he isn't real.

That I can live with.

I believe that there are conscious beings other then humans living in our universe. Statistically its almost certain.

However I am not convinced that what witnesses describe are necessarily these creatures. There have always been strange visitors and sightings in the skys going back many years.

These sightings that may or may not be real represent an ingrained. subconscious manifestation of mankind's fears based on the time frame they are seen.

Flaming balls of light became chariots which became sailing ships which became airships which became discs which became abductions which went back to lights.

Strange visitors were demons then monsters thn witches then aliens.

Whenever we have progressed as a species through science and understanding a new threat manifests itself That we cannot truly. Comprehend.

I believe this idea is a fundamental protection built into the minds and psyches of humankind for some specific reason.

I believe that ignoring this and not taking it into consideration does this topic a huge disservice and hurts the understanding of our species. I feel that it's incredibly meaningful yet rarely discussed.

Originally posted by hornum

Originally posted by gordonwest
reply to post by hornum

 

Yes I believe in God

Show us any "evidence and proove" that God is real. *IF* you can't then he isn't real.

That I can live with.

So your saying-typing that YOU can NOT provide any evidence for anything at all?

reply to post by hornum


funny thing, God you can belive in without Proof, but not Slimy Alien Life Forms ? LOL....

Well, There is no God either (my opinion), and what the common mixup is what/who made things around around us is not the same thing/man/et.

two totaly difrent 'forces' , but God is a 'infiltrator' self proclaimd 'master' or what ever you want to call it..

The ET's as you say, may very well be manmade crafts, it is history wise eveidence of high technology thousands of years back in time, and even the simple things as lightbolbs have been withheld from the public for thousands of years............(my opinion).....

Originally posted by drock905
I believe that there are conscious beings other then humans living in our universe. Statistically its almost certain.

However I am not convinced that what witnesses describe are necessarily these creatures. There have always been strange visitors and sightings in the skys going back many years.

These sightings that may or may not be real represent an ingrained. subconscious manifestation of mankind's fears based on the time frame they are seen.

Flaming balls of light became chariots which became sailing ships which became airships which became discs which became abductions which went back to lights.

Strange visitors were demons then monsters thn witches then aliens.

Whenever we have progressed as a species through science and understanding a new threat manifests itself That we cannot truly. Comprehend.

I believe this idea is a fundamental protection built into the minds and psyches of humankind for some specific reason.

I believe that ignoring this and not taking it into consideration does this topic a huge disservice and hurts the understanding of our species. I feel that it's incredibly meaningful yet rarely discussed.

There will be a thread available in a couple of days, in that I will address these things.

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Originally posted by gordonwest

Originally posted by hornum

Originally posted by gordonwest
reply to post by hornum

 

Yes I believe in God

Show us any "evidence and proove" that God is real. *IF* you can't then he isn't real.

That I can live with.

So your saying-typing that YOU can NOT provide any evidence for anything at all?

My thread is called "Aliens Don't exist" not "God Doesnt Exist" I suggest you create a thread I will answer you there.

Originally posted by hornum

Originally posted by ButterCookie
reply to post by Kojiro

 

Totally agree!!!

I find very arrogant for trhose who say life is only here, only Earth can sustain intelligent life and any alien race out there needs to travel here to prove themselves....

ARROGANT!!

I still don't get you at all. And don't quote the odds because they don't mean anything accept adding to the point of our amazing existance. Be proud of yourself you are one of around 7000000000 humans in a universe of maybe the same amount of planets.

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I've already told you the maths so why this misinformed speculation?

Originally posted by ChemBreather
reply to post by hornum

 

funny thing, God you can belive in without Proof, but not Slimy Alien Life Forms ? LOL....

Well, There is no God either (my opinion), and what the common mixup is what/who made things around around us is not the same thing/man/et.

two totaly difrent 'forces' , but God is a 'infiltrator' self proclaimd 'master' or what ever you want to call it..

The ET's as you say, may very well be manmade crafts, it is history wise eveidence of high technology thousands of years back in time, and even the simple things as lightbolbs have been withheld from the public for thousands of years............(my opinion).....

Show me high technology of thousands of years ago other than so called Lightbulbs, Batteries or even the Antikythera Mechanism for that matter capable of flight.

Originally posted by bonsaisert

Originally posted by hornum

Originally posted by ButterCookie
reply to post by Kojiro

 

Totally agree!!!

I find very arrogant for trhose who say life is only here, only Earth can sustain intelligent life and any alien race out there needs to travel here to prove themselves....

ARROGANT!!

I still don't get you at all. And don't quote the odds because they don't mean anything accept adding to the point of our amazing existance. Be proud of yourself you are one of around 7000000000 humans in a universe of maybe the same amount of planets.

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I've already told you the maths so why this misinformed speculation?

You're right that was a mix up, I meant galaxy/stars. And they are only estimates anyway.



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Don't feed the troll.

I was going to answer your post with a barrage of evidence and the odd bit of verbal abuse chucked in for good measure but I thought better, because you are just talking out of your arse basicaly.

Its just another stur up the locals post and and make this subject a laughing stock and get your stars up.

All I can say with a calm voice " Sit on this and rotate!

Originally posted by Bob Down Under
I was going to answer your post with a barrage of evidence and the odd bit of verbal abuse chucked in for good measure but I thought better, because you are just talking out of your arse basicaly.

Its just another stur up the locals post and and make this subject a laughing stock and get your stars up.

All I can say with a calm voice " Sit on this and rotate!

I assure you it's not

Originally posted by Bob Down Under
I was going to answer your post with a barrage of evidence and the odd bit of verbal abuse chucked in for good measure but I thought better, because you are just talking out of your arse basicaly.

Its just another stur up the locals post and and make this subject a laughing stock and get your stars up.

All I can say with a calm voice " Sit on this and rotate!

I assure you it's not

Originally posted by hornum

Originally posted by bonsaisert

Originally posted by hornum

Originally posted by ButterCookie
reply to post by Kojiro

 

Totally agree!!!

I find very arrogant for trhose who say life is only here, only Earth can sustain intelligent life and any alien race out there needs to travel here to prove themselves....

ARROGANT!!

I still don't get you at all. And don't quote the odds because they don't mean anything accept adding to the point of our amazing existance. Be proud of yourself you are one of around 7000000000 humans in a universe of maybe the same amount of planets.

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I've already told you the maths so why this misinformed speculation?

You're right that was a mix up, I meant galaxy. And they are only estimates anyway.

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There are an estimated 10,000,000 habitable planets in our galaxy as we know them, however there are far more than 7,000,000,000 planets in our galaxy in total. The figure of 10,000,000 is based on life evolving as we know it, if there is but 1 other mechanism of evolution in the galaxy besides the model we use then the number jumps from 10,000,000 to staggeringly more.

Food for thought.

reply to post by hornum


Seriously ?

LOL, I dont think that would do much good, rather, you proov God, then I give you lightbolbs and planes..

You totally missing the point, Lightblobs thousands of years ago ..duh !
Yet we are fooled into believing they are Just invented.

There are models of planes that old , you know that, you also know there are fully operational models of those planes, and the 'nah, there are Faces on them, so it is 'just Demons with capability of flight'..

The simplest explanation : They were Planes..... we have faces on planes too, teeth etc....No big secret, really, but God now ? where is the slightest eveidence of that except the Bible and the billion of people using his name ?