Chemtrailers are People, Too.

reply to post by A boy in a dress


Serious?? Haven't had the chance to read a lot of the explanations for:

....after all, there's lots of tracks and crosses
and the such.

Care to view a map, and think about the orientation of the cities, in whatever Country, or geographical area you inhabit?

THEN, care to picture HOW flights will travel between those different cities?

It doesn't take a rocket scientist....

Chemtrails aren't real get over it.

reply to post by stars15k

The video was in response to YouTubers who insisted every cloud was man-made, and 100% from planes. That is impossible.

Why did you post it here, those type of clouds are not the kind of clouds all the fuss is about.

Again the comparison of 7 planes full of water needed to form such a cloud is bogus.

The water is already available in the atmosphere.

What about cloud seeding?

The most common chemicals used for cloud seeding include silver iodide and dry ice (frozen carbon dioxide). The expansion of liquid propane into a gas has also been used and can produce ice crystals at higher temperatures than silver iodide. The use of hygroscopic materials, such as salt, is increasing in popularity[citation needed] because of some promising research results

Even in areas with very low humidity, there's at least some water in the sky and clouds. A rainstorm happens after moisture collects around naturally occurring particles in the air, causing the air to reach a level of saturation at which point it can no longer hold in that moisture. Cloud seeding essentially helps that process along, providing additional "nuclei" around which water condenses. These nuclei can be salts, calcium chloride, dry ice or silver iodide, which the Chinese use. Silver iodide is effective because its form is similar to ice crystals. Calcium chloride is often used in warm or tropical areas.

They don't have to release a cloud's total amount of water into the atmosphere to create a cloud.

They release a catalyst, wich is logistically completely possible, Weedwacker.



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reply to post by Point of No Return


But they do release that catalyst into clouds though. The catalyst should theoretically increase ice growth around the water causing it to becoem heavier and fall as rain.

Its the same process that aircraft exhaust goes through when contrails are formed. The onyl difference is its at a muhc higher and colder altitude

reply to post by OzWeatherman


Jeah well, it still shows that they are perfectly able to have payloads on planes that actually can effect the skies on a pretty large scale.

Posters like WW and Stars act like it's logistically impossible for planes to carry payloads that effect the whole sky, wich is untrue, with a simple catalyst, whole parts of the sky can be infuenced.

Again, I don't see "chemtrails" as spraying to poison people, I think weather modification programs are going on.

reply to post by Point of No Return


I cant really speak for the capabilities of planes, as Im not a pilot like WW. I think weather modification is occuring to, but only through clouds seeding (although its not really effective) and the through the accidental effects from an abundance of contrails.

It still seems all a little 'up there'... the mainstream
media (ceratinly her in the UK) haven't really got
hold of it, which tends to make me think it isn't
happening.

A world-helping action on the scale you're discussing
would certainly warrent attention and praise.
It would make things easier all round, if the public knew
that their leaders were involved in making the weather
work for them and I'm still unsure why they can't do this
for drought-stricken countries.

I believe that certain parts of Africa would be a lot better off
and it would go a long way to assist in famine relief.

reply to post by A boy in a dress


Wwell clouds seeding is difficult.

1. You actually have to have clouds capable of producing rain, for the entire operation to occur. No clouds means no cloud seeding can happen

2. Its not entirely effective and its not guaranteed to even work

reply to post by Point of No Return


Point of No Return.....

I think you are starting to soften.....

.....perhaps "seeing the light!"

Good for you buddy!

You see.....how good's my thread! It's setting you free!

Kind regards
Maybe...maybe not

reply to post by Maybe...maybe not


Don't flatter yourself with BS.

I never ever claimed I believed in "chemtrails" and especially not with the intent of killing the worlds population.

I have made clear in previous threads, as well as this one, that my stance is more towards a weather modificiton program.

The fact that I may argue certain points doesn't mean i actually have to believe in them.

I just point out inconsistentcies and flaws where I see them in arguments.

Doesn't really matter what side of the discussion they're from.

That's how I try to find truth.

reply to post by Maybe...maybe not


I'm already soft, Mr. MaybeNot!
It's fascinated me for years how this supposed
phenomena has been ignored by everyone...
which makes me think it isn't there.

By the way, it's morning here and no sky-trails...
maybe the pilots are late risers, I've seen those
'special' rooms they have in their planes.

All uniforms and champagne... (envy glow!)

reply to post by Point of No Return


Well said Sir.
It is nice when one can debate a view when it's irrelevent
whether you believe that view or not.
The essence of debate, I believe.

I like your avatar too.

Originally posted by OzWeatherman
reply to post by A boy in a dress

 

Wwell clouds seeding is difficult.

1. You actually have to have clouds capable of producing rain, for the entire operation to occur. No clouds means no cloud seeding can happen

2. Its not entirely effective and its not guaranteed to even work

I can see you're point there... it would be natural not
to have clouds in drought-suffering places and therefore,
making the sky 'cry' would be probably impossible.

I apologise for going off topic -Mr. Moderators...
but that's a first for me.
THREE postings at once!

reply to post by A boy in a dress


Thank you, Sir,...or Mam?

Now that were chit-chatting anyways, I was wondering what BIAD is about.

Why do you wear a dress?



edit: I'm not laughing at you, just so you know, I'm just curious.

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reply to post by A boy in a dress


Well not so much not natural to have clouds, but more natural to have non-rain bearing clouds. There are nine basic cloud types, and only a couple fo them produce rain. The high clouds dont at all.

So you need the right kind of cloud for it to work, as well as the presence of it

reply to post by OzWeatherman


Well, the phenomena that I see, and others also speak about, is the "hazing" of the sky.

They're not making rain clouds. Just a hazy clouding of big parts of the sky.

I can imagine this might be able without rain clouds present, just by the moisture in the air, combined with seeding, and perhaps unknown methods and chemicals for seeding.

The debate is indeed still open on it's effectiveness, but we can at least conclude that the concept of planes spraying stuff, and deliberatley effecting the way our skies look and function, is one that's completely realistic, and completely viable.

Originally posted by Point of No Return
reply to post by A boy in a dress

 

Thank you, Sir,...or Mam?

Now that were chit-chatting anyways, I was wondering what BIAD is about.

Why do you wear a dress?

That question is always asked.
I could respond with:

A slightly balding 50 year-old man who strokes his dress when his
domineering wife goes off to work?
The eyeless man-thing you see in my avatar?
A young friend-less kid in his bedroom, hiding his yearnings from
his post-army father?
A dope fiend, who snickers and trolls over a waxdripped-keyboard
in his last friend's basement?

It doesn't matter and by the way, (no offence meant) what possible
difference does it really make what I wear when I'm at the keyboard?
Although pastel-colours, as you may be aware of, don't work.

You see how we perceive things by looking around us and
making the visual evidence fit into the rules our parents or
peers give us?!

Thank you Mr. Of No Return, or may I call you 'Point'?!
I'll keep up the mystery!



[edit on 17-6-2010 by A boy in a dress]

Originally posted by OzWeatherman
reply to post by A boy in a dress

 

Well not so much not natural to have clouds, but more natural to have non-rain bearing clouds. There are nine basic cloud types, and only a couple fo them produce rain. The high clouds dont at all.

So you need the right kind of cloud for it to work, as well as the presence of it

Gotcha Sir.
I thought all clouds had the capability of rain (shoulda stuck in
when my physics teacher was talking, instead of doing my nails!)

reply to post by A boy in a dress


Lol, it's ok, I think this better remains a mystery.

I was just curious. I edited my post while you posted. I didn't mean to judge you or something.

Everybody gotta do what they gotta do.

Jeah, you can call me Point.