MV Rachel Corrie being boarded NOW

Originally posted by felonius
I just looked up Rachel Corrie on the net to get more info.

She got what she deserved. She was a ISM member (something that NO ONE has brought up or denied) and as such was a socialist instigator.

She got what she deserved??

Run over by a bulldozer that was going to destroy the home of a Palestinian??
You think crushing someone to death is what someone deserves for protesting?

Damn... so they couldn't have just grabbed her and cuffed her and whatever else, they had to kill her?

I suppose it depends which side you stand on ultimately...

Whether you think Israel is justified in illegally building on land, forcibly evicting Palestinians from their own homes, killing innocent civilians by the hundreds.... basically just acting above the law and saying all the while that they are acting in defence.

It really depends on how you view the whole conflict really...

Wow this article is very interesting......

DANISH INSTITUTE FOR INTERNATIONAL STUDIES

THE ROLE OF ISLAMIC CHARITIES IN INTERNATIONAL
TERRORIST RECRUITMENT AND FINANCING

ht.ly...

reply to post by Skellon


Propaganda from either side is irrelavant. Gaza if full of kids everyone knows that.

Let me make myself clear; Loss of life regardless of circumstance is a terrible waste and very regrettable.

Yeh whatever. You clearly couldn't give a #.

Originally posted by blupblup

Originally posted by felonius
I just looked up Rachel Corrie on the net to get more info.

She got what she deserved. She was a ISM member (something that NO ONE has brought up or denied) and as such was a socialist instigator.

She got what she deserved??

Run over by a bulldozer that was going to destroy the home of a Palestinian??
You think crushing someone to death is what someone deserves for protesting?

Damn... so they couldn't have just grabbed her and cuffed her and whatever else, they had to kill her?

Welcome to the mindset of the IDF....... and numerous other supporters...

Scary stuff huh, makes you think twice about some people doesn't it

Originally posted by RVD420
reply to post by Clisen33

 

I'm proud that my people are standing up to a fascist oppressive government when no one else in the world will.

[edit on 5-6-2010 by RVD420]

Can't argue with that..

I really just think the Isrealies are tired of the palistanian crap theve been putting up with for years the land is theirs and has been so for thousands of years...already proven several times in the past.If it were my country I'd
have already removed them .
What would you do if some crackhead just started building a little house on your property...let them in the name of peace, yeah right ,...youd get rid of them ....not comparing palestinians to crackheads peeps just giving a scenerio
Isreal has been screwed with for years now and its just about time for them to start kicking some major butt I for one am glad they are but they should have just shot the floatilla with a big bomb to begin with instead of trying to peacefully board the vessel to see what they had on it

If Iran sent a floatilla of aide to US waters I'd hope our military would do the same!!!...If I pissed you off so be it the truth hurts
I sincerely hope Isreal keeps on killing the blockade runners but I just wish they would use big bombs, much easier that way

Originally posted by spender
Wow this article is very interesting......

DANISH INSTITUTE FOR INTERNATIONAL STUDIES

THE ROLE OF ISLAMIC CHARITIES IN INTERNATIONAL
TERRORIST RECRUITMENT AND FINANCING

ht.ly...

I thought that was interesting thank you.

reply to post by Stormdancer777


In fact i am really getting sick of people sitting on their comfortable chair, with their brainwashing cable tv on and calling every group terrorist.
If Israel's Gaza attack (where more than 1000 killed), if US invasion in Iraq are not terrorist attacks, why are the other parties actions called terrorism?
World needs a wake-up.

[edit on 5-6-2010 by deccal]

Originally posted by Stormdancer777

Originally posted by spender
Wow this article is very interesting......

DANISH INSTITUTE FOR INTERNATIONAL STUDIES

THE ROLE OF ISLAMIC CHARITIES IN INTERNATIONAL
TERRORIST RECRUITMENT AND FINANCING

ht.ly...

I thought that was interesting thank you.

Almost as interesting as the CIA and MOSSAD pulling the same kind of crap, but that would be completely irrelevant and off topic as well as it fails to demonize Islamics. But no, really, how did Alqueda and Hamas get started? Interesting indeed.

The idea that Gaza, with a population of approx 400,000 consists of 399,999 children, women and the elderly, who are all starving, all suffering from malnutrition, all suffering from plague with 1 noble freedom fighter to fight the righteous cause defies common sense alone.

Why is it that aid, intended for the people of Gaza is stolen by Hamas regularly?

Why did the Palestinians vote these same 'freedom fighters' into power democratically?

Why is it common for Palestinian 'children' to want to skip 'this life' for the promise of paradise and become a Shahid in an act martyrdom against Westerners, whom they are taught to hate from an early age?

The same Westerners that pour out their hearts at every opportunity the Palestinians get to turn the killing of a few militants and an unfortunate bystander into a 'massacre by the zionist regime' costing the lives of 8 children, an old couple and 40 more innocents seriously injured.

The same Westerners that believe that the 'freedom fighters' of the Hamas don't use the innocents as a human shield.

The same Westerners that believe without a doubt that Israel commits war crimes every year and deliberatly murder innocents by the hundreds out of insanity and the great Jewish world domination conspiracy.

The same Westerners that believe running a naval blockade and therefore putting lives at risk on both sides constitutes iconic defiance to a 'murderous regime'.

Ask the Germans how many Israeli 'murderers' have killed their population out of revenge for what the Nazi's did to them in WWII?

Ask the passengers of the 5 other ships in the original 'Freedom Flotilla' why did the IDF not murder them?

Ask the passengers onboard the 'Rachel Corrie' how come the IDF boarded their vessel and did not murder them even though there was no 'independant' live footage of the event this time?

Ask yourself if it true that you feel paralysed by political correctness to not say anything that could be misconstrued as criticism of muslims/arabs in general?

Ask yourself if you do not feel able to celebrate your nationality in your country anymore for fear of being accused of inciting racial hatred?

Ask yourself if it was no accident that your voice got louder in the criticism of Israel in the past decade and got toned down to 'mute' on fundementalist Islamic crimes of which dwarf the alleged Israeli 'murders'?

Ask yourself why a decade ago you were appauled at the terrorist suicide bombers but now are maybe 'understanding their side more' and maybe think of them now as freedom fighters with the courage to stand up for their beliefs?

Ask yourself WTF happened between then and now?




[edit on 5-6-2010 by Skellon]

Originally posted by StumpDrummer
I really just think the Isrealies are tired of the palistanian crap theve been putting up with for years the land is theirs and has been so for thousands of years...

You know, I'm sure the Nazi's believed that the Aryan race had some claim over Poland and the rest of Europe.
And I'm sure they were very tired of what they perceived as the Jewish crap they had been putting up with over the years.

Not that I'm comparing Israel to Nazi Germany or anything.

I'm just giving you a scenario.

reply to post by StumpDrummer



I see you aren't a diplomat or a historian. That would be a great way for Israel to start a war that they cannot win.

Originally posted by Skellon

The idea that Gaza, with a population of approx 410,000 consists of 399,999 children, women and the elderly, who are all starving, all suffering from malnutrition, all suffering from plague with 1 noble freedom fighter to fight the righteous cause defies common sense alone.

How are those math skills working out for you?

[edit on 5-6-2010 by janon]

reply to post by PuterMan


Cool !

Did they use a Cat D9 Bulldozer?

Originally posted by deccal
reply to post by Stormdancer777

 

If Israel's Gaza attack (where more than 1000 killed), if US invasion in Iraq are not terrorist attacks, why are the other parties actions called terrorism?

You're absolutely right. In WWII, french resistance were called terrorists by the nazis. This simple fact is sufficient for understanding some stuff in our days

Originally posted by deccal
reply to post by Stormdancer777

 

In fact i am really getting sick of people sitting on their comfortable chair, with their brainwashing cable tv on and calling every group terrorist.
If Israel's Gaza attack (where more than 1000 killed), if US invasion in Iraq are not terrorist attacks, why are the other parties actions called terrorism?
World needs a wake-up.

[edit on 5-6-2010 by deccal]

Are you honestly trying to compare armies attacking countries to suicide bombers and highjackers?

Why is it that hatred makes people say and post the most moronic things?

reply to post by LittleSpikeDudley

most Americans it's just another brown "terrorist" unless you make them think about it.

That's true, an Iranian friend lived next door to an American whilst she was staying in England, and the American girl was like OMG aren't you all terrorists from Ayyrannn!

Too much fox news rots the brain from the inside out.

reply to post by deccal


This is great idea.Lets extrapolate: why they call PKK terrorists - i do not know. After all Turkey killed 30000 in last 30 years. Turkish military is real terrorist then , not side blowing bombs in middle of Ankara?
Good logic....

Originally posted by john124
reply to post by LittleSpikeDudley

 

most Americans it's just another brown "terrorist" unless you make them think about it.

That's true, an Iranian friend lived next door to an American whilst she was staying in England, and the American girl was like OMG aren't you all terrorists from Ayyrannn!

Too much fox news rots the brain from the inside out.

Wow, what an incredibly ignorant post. I wonder what your response would be if I started posting stereotypes about the Brits? You know like saying you are all a bunch of drunk thugs who only live to kill each other, or talk about how you treat "Asians" etc.

Originally posted by 3daysofdarkness

You're absolutely right. In WWII, french resistance were called terrorists by the nazis. This simple fact is sufficient for understanding some stuff in our days

Yes you are absolutely right. When Hamas fires rockets from Palestine into Israel, that isn't a terror tactic. No no no. And the French resistance went about targeting civilians to kill too, oh no wait. No. No they didn't.

If Hamas, the PLO, and other militant factions only fought against the IDF then no. They would not be labeled "terrorists." The fact that they intentionally target civilians is what makes them terrorists. IE, the use of terror to achieve their goals.

Oh by the way. Israel is a western style democracy. Gandi and MLK's tactics of nonviolence would in fact work against it. Makes you wonder if these people you clearly say are NOT terrorists care about the people they claim to. Or if they're just interested in the money and power.

reply to post by Skellon


If you were living under the thumb of Israel, and had to deal with the settler hate and violence on a daily basis you would be up in arms as well.

The hate is endemic on both sides, it is just that in a fight the guy getting his ass stomped needs help not the guy doing the beating.





Here is how they deal with activists.



Here is what Jewish children are tought, its not just the palestenians that teach hate.







It has become a rite of passage that young Israelis expect to kill a Palestinian during their military service.





Land grabbing operations by settlers are common place, and the IDF has their back.



One must also wonder just how deep Israel’s hooks are set into the US. Who benefitted the most from the 911 attacks? Look at any map of the middle east to see the answer to that one. Iran threatens Israel with a prospect of nukes and all of a sudden countries fall and Iran is surrounded on both fronts. How many Americans have died for Satans, I mean Israel’s sake?

You Christians have been dooped. Israel is not your friend! If Israel is not the antichrist I do not know who or what could be. Jewish owned media tear at the very heart of Christendom openly and without any reproach.

Rabbi Yaacov Perrin said, "One million Arabs are not worth a Jewish fingernail." (NY Daily News, Feb. 28, 1994, p.6).

University of Jerusalem Prof. Ehud Sprinzak described Kahane and Goldstein's philosophy: "They believe it's God's will that they commit violence against goyim," a Hebrew term for non-Jews. (NY Daily News, Feb. 26, 1994, p. 5).

"The Akum (non-Jew) is like a dog. Yes, the scripture teaches to honor the the dog more than the non-Jew." Ereget Raschi Erod. 22 30

Some teachings from the Talmud (Judaism’s holiest book.)

Sanhedrin 106a . Says Jesus' mother was a whore: "She who was the descendant of princes and governors played the harlot with carpenters." Also in footnote #2 to Shabbath 104b of the Soncino edition, it is stated that in the "uncensored" text of the Talmud it is written that Jesus mother, "Miriam the hairdresser," had sex with many men.

"The Talmud (Babylonian edition) records other sins of 'Jesus the Nazarene':

1) He and his disciples practiced sorcery and black magic, led Jews astray into idolatry, and were sponsored by foreign, gentile powers for the purpose of subverting Jewish worship (Sanhedrin 43a).

2) He was sexually immoral, worshipped statues of stone (a brick is mentioned), was cut off from the Jewish people for his wickedness, and refused to repent (Sanhedrin 107b; Sotah 47a).

3) He learned witchcraft in Egypt and, to perform miracles, used procedures that involved cutting his flesh, which is also explicitly banned in the Bible (Shabbos 104b).

Gittin 57a. Says Jesus is in hell, being boiled in "hot excrement."

Sanhedrin 90a. Those who read the New Testament ("uncanonical books") will have no portion in the world to come.

Shabbath 116a. Jews must destroy the books of the Christians, i.e. the New Testament.

Menahoth 43b-44a. A Jewish man is obligated to say the following prayer every day: "Thank you God for not making me a gentile, a woman or a slave."




A large portion of the Palestinian population is Christian. This hate is endemic!

I didn’t write the Talmud, and I don’t think all Jews take it literally. Just remember though if you're Christian then you’re an animal in the eyes of the hardliners, which are found in over abundance there.

I know this sounds like hate, but it is really at the heart of the matter.



[edit on 5-6-2010 by Donkey_Dean]