The real power in the world is SAUDI ARABIA and they are causing the Islamization of the World.

Originally posted by AbuMusaab
TruBlue,

They were going to smoke marijuana? Practicing Muslims do not smoke marijuana. And a guy blaming a woman for dressing immodestly and getting raped is nothing new. The man is also to blame, and he would receive lashes for it or even be executed in true Shar'iah.

Oh yes, very clever but a woman must have four male witnesses to the crime otherwise she is blamed.

You are not fooling me.

I know a woman has to deflect a mans desires or it is considered her fault which is why the veil worn.

Watch this video - the Muslim guy says it clearly.

reply to post by AbuMusaab


The problem is, I had no part in any of the horrible things that have been done to Muslim nations.

It isn't great that young generations of the west are having to pay for their elders apathy and old leaders bigotry/interference.

I just want to live alongside anyone who is peaceful.

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I know it does not matter how much evidence is provided, still some refuse to see.

There is heaps of video evidence on this thread but some choose either to not bother to watch it or to dismiss it as a few silly radicals.

Oh well I try ...



[edit on 1-5-2010 by Trublue]

Religion and such.
Any system which has millions of adherents will have both good and bad members. It is simply part of the human condition.
Religion as a way of life is even more core to peoples' beliefs so it amplifies behaviour.
Given the vast array of adherents and antihetical behaviours anyone with even a rudimentary knowledge of using internet search engines can find negatives about any of these groups/religions.
Additionally the sign of a good hypothesis or argument is acknowledgment of facts in their entirety and being open to dialogue.
In this case the OP has failed in both regards.

The posts are in large part simple cut and paste from the myriad of biased sources available and any attempt at debate is squelched by more of the same.
In the few areas of original commentary the OP betrays their emotional bias,
(mistypes such as; mosque with morgue, using terms such as; "our people"), and thus reduces any logical coherence.

I'm hardly one to advocate religion, but spewing foaming at the mouth hatred for any group does nothing to further the debate. If anything it leads us astray from any solution/s and simply radicalizes participants (and radical behaviour is the real menace of society).

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Rape is HARAAM!!! Get it through your thick skull. I don't care who says otherwise!!! Even if they claim to be Muslim!! I would execute them myself.

We are not allowed to have sex at all except with our wives. So how is rape allowed? How stupid can you be? Just cuz some idiot thinks rape is ok, doesn't make it ok! He's wrong! They obviously do not know the Qur'an OR the Sunnah!

Those "Leb's" may have even been Christians...they are lots of Christians in Lebanon!

Originally posted by AbuMusaab
reply to post by Trublue

 

Rape is HARAAM!!! Get it through your thick skull. I don't care who says otherwise!!! Even if they claim to be Muslim!! I would execute them myself.

WOW, I wonder about you?

You do some really tough talk - now I am fully of the belief that the West has gone weak and stupid and if it had not, Islam would not stand a chance, you would not get a foot in the door.

And OK I am all for a bit of toughness and to be honest with you, there are aspects of Islam I am not against.

I am not against it just for the sake of being so.

But after all the negative stuff I have found - man it is hard to convince me -

Of course the press lies continuously which is why people are so in denial about the truth because it is hidden from them.

I have head your leaders ranting on like lunatics about Jihad and nothing more precious to Allah than Jihard etc etc..

I better not say any more ...





[edit on 1-5-2010 by Trublue]

Originally posted by AbuMusaab


Those "Leb's" may have even been Christians...they are lots of Christians in Lebanon!

No way or the Muslim leader would not have come out in their defense, they were Muslims.

I will admit apparently their parents were totally disgusted but they are causing all sorts of hell in Sydney.

Food for though:

If we didn't have racists, bigots, fear mongers, radicals, or intollerant people like certain members posting here (on both sides of the fence, Christian radicals, Muslim radicals, etc.)...the world would be a happier place and we could just peacefully COEXIST. Sadly those idiots are messing it up for the rest of us...

Originally posted by MrXYZ
Food for though:

If we didn't have racists, bigots, fear mongers, radicals, or intollerant people like certain members posting here (on both sides of the fence, Christian radicals, Muslim radicals, etc.)...the world would be a happier place and we could just peacefully COEXIST. Sadly those idiots are messing it up for the rest of us...

Yes and if we all ignore problems and pretend they don't exist - it does not mean that don't exist.

Ever heard the saying about having ones head in the sand?

Jihad is EXTREMELY important! Yes. And it is the duty of every Muslim to defend the Muslim Ummah from the aggressors. The west is the aggressor, and has been since Islam was born. Starting with Europe and later joined by America, and even the Soviets tried their hand (carried on today by Russians in Chechnya). It is our duty to fight you until you stop.

Originally posted by AbuMusaab
Jihad is EXTREMELY important! Yes. And it is the duty of every Muslim to defend the Muslim Ummah from the aggressors. The west is the aggressor, and has been since Islam was born. Starting with Europe and later joined by America, and even the Soviets tried their hand (carried on today by Russians in Chechnya). It is our duty to fight you until you stop.

Listen, stop going on about us being the aggressors, as you well know it is Saudi Arabia etc that is forcing us to accept all of the Muslim immigrants and change our laws and delete our customs till they have the final take over.

I wouldn't mind betting that the wars that are going on in the middle East are really inspired by Saudi Arabia and the neighbors because they want them sorted out and America is doing their dirty work.

Earlier I put up two videos which showed shows Arabs are at all the highest levels of discussions in regards to what is going on in Afghanistan for example.

www.youtube.com...

www.youtube.com...

Your infiltration of our governments goes right to the very top.

We are probably actually training your forces to come and take us over!!

"The situation now is that Turkey is dead and will never rise again, because we have destroyed its moral strength, the Caliphate and Islam." -Lord Curzon, 1924 "Why [is] your government...supporting the rotten governments of our countries? What happened in the United States is a natural reaction to the ignorant policy of the United States." - Usama Bin Laden

And how dare you go on about Turkey, you stole that land 500 years ago and murdered nearly all it's white Christian inhabitants.






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And even more recently the White man stole America from the Native Americans and committed an absolute GENOCIDE on them. The people whose land we took still have a country and still exist at least. Most of them became Muslims. And besides think of this:

When the Crusaders took Jerusalem they slaughtered everyone living there. When Muslims took it back, Saladin allowed everyone to be escorted peacefully and safely back to England without being killed or robbed.

Originally posted by AbuMusaab
reply to post by Trublue

 

And even more recently the White man stole America from the Native Americans and committed an absolute GENOCIDE on them. The people whose land we took still have a country and still exist at least. Most of them became Muslims. And besides think of this:

When the Crusaders took Jerusalem they slaughtered everyone living there. When Muslims took it back, Saladin allowed everyone to be escorted peacefully and safely back to England without being killed or robbed.

What a load of rubbish, most of the Indians died from small pox, something they had not come in contact with before and there is more of them alive today than there was back then.

When you invaded turkey, you killed babies by smashing their heads against rocks. You killed almost everyone except young girls forced to marry or be sex slaves to your men and the boys you castrated and made slaves of.

And by the way - what happened in Turkey is way after the crusades.

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They got smallpox because the white man gave them blankets as a gift which were laced with smallpox. You sick murderer!!! You white barbarian!!!

You really are a mad woman. Good luck to you. We are taking over the world and there is nothing you can do about it. Enjoy your life of fear.

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And now you're attacking Muslims for having taken over Turkey 500 years ago? Seriously? Double standards, lol...what about all the white Christians who murdered thousands of innocent native indians when they came to the US? Oh, I forgot...genocide is fine as long as it's "your" crew doing it. Right?

And the "we didn't kill them, small pox did" argument is so weak! That's like saying you didn't kill someone, that bomb you dropped did.

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Originally posted by AbuMusaab
reply to post by Trublue

 

They got smallpox because the white man gave them blankets as a gift which were laced with smallpox. You sick murderer!!! You white barbarian!!!

You really are a mad woman. Good luck to you. We are taking over the world and there is nothing you can do about it. Enjoy your life of fear.

That is just a sick rumor about the blankets - other tribes already had small pox.

It was inevitable they would catch it.

I am mad - yes we all should be - taking over the world - yes and it is about time others realised it!!!

And got out of their stupid stupor.

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reply to post by Trublue


So what exactly do you propose? Ban Islam? Destroy all mosques?

Whats your plan of action to have the final solution for this "growing problem"?

Maybe Mein Kampf has your answers....

Originally posted by MrXYZ
reply to post by Trublue

 

And now you're attacking Muslims for having taken over Turkey 500 years ago? Seriously? Double standards, lol...what about all the white Christians who murdered thousands of innocent native indians when they came to the US? Oh, I forgot...genocide is fine as long as it's "your" crew doing it. Right?

And the "we didn't kill them, small pox did" argument is so weak! That's like saying you didn't kill someone, that bomb you dropped did.

Most of what you have learnt is lies, some of the first whites to arrive in America were totally wiped out by the Indians -

I can't be bothered to reply to you - you are very brainwashed - it's pathetic and sad really.

reply to post by Trublue


The blankets are fact. The sick rumor is what you said about Turks smashing babies heads with rocks.

Anyways, I am just going to say things that feed into your dementia to push you over the edge.

We are taking over the world. We will establish Shar'iah on every corner of the globe, and we will not rest until the flag of Islam is waving high over the White House, and 10 Downing Street...as well as every other major capital in the entire world.

The world belongs to Islam, and we are just claiming what is ours. Allahu Akbar!!!