My Name is Jesus Christ

[edit on 1-4-2010 by manbird12000]

Originally posted by nomorecruelty
Originally posted by Hondahawk
Faith to me is not blindly following words. Its a feeling of when you know its right.

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That is exactly what 'faith' is -

"Certainty" is when you know you are right.

Having faith is being certain

[edit on 1-4-2010 by Hondahawk]

Originally posted by Divinorumus

Originally posted by hippomchippo
f you walk on water, raise the dead and turn water into wine, you might have a point.

Another expectation?

"Hey, you're not santa, if you were, you should have known I wanted a puppy for xmas."

No, I was showing you that people didn't believe in Jesus simply because he said he was the messiah, it was the supposed miracles he did, I'm an atheist and even I know that, and your sarcasm only shows your ignorance in this topic.

[edit on 1-4-2010 by hippomchippo]

Jesus was a man who "woke" up as a Boy an reached Nirvana (Christ Consciousness) at the age of 29, if you were Jesus incarnate you would have to go through the up hill struggle to reach the heights that Jesus did! same for all the Gurus!

my name is GOD, the creator, I own you

Originally posted by Faiol
my name is GOD, the creator, I own you

Way to contribute to the thread, although I don't think this thread deserves contributing to, so good on you

[edit on 1-4-2010 by hippomchippo]

Originally posted by Hondahawk

Originally posted by nomorecruelty
Originally posted by Hondahawk
Faith to me is not blindly following words. Its a feeling of when you know its right.

======================================================

That is exactly what 'faith' is -

"Certainty" is when you know you are right.

Having faith is being certain

[edit on 1-4-2010 by Hondahawk]

Faith:

Belief that does not rest on logical proof or material evidence. ...

We are to have faith even without seeing - that's why it's called "blind faith".

reply to post by hippomchippo


What, so you don't believe a philosophical discussion on the notion of faith and what it means to have faith in something is not warranted on these forums?

Originally posted by nomorecruelty
reply to post by dPD89

 

Thanks for the reply. Would you mind briefly going through the "signs" if it isn't too much to ask? Thanks.

Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't the bible say that the devil would masquerade as the saviour? Guess that makes me the devil?

But do you have enough information from the text to distinguish between the two?
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Yes, that would make you sort of like the devil.

Signs:
Increase of weather behavior i.e. earthquakes, crime, apathy, worshiping other gods or things, scoffers of God, and the Bible, strange signs in the skies/space, famines, one world govt, Tiger Woods would be caught cheating, etc.

Ok, I'm kidding about Tiger Woods. Not about him cheating - about that being one of the signs.

Yes, the Bible says that satan will arrive first, as the anti christ, trying to convince everyone he is Jesus Christ. And ALOT of people will believe him.
He will introduce the "mark" - and if you accept it, your soul is eternally doomed to damnation (hell and on to the lake of fire)

And yes, the Bible says that it will eventually come down to believers in Jesus losing their lives, and some their heads (beheading) and life - or would that be their heads and then their life........ hmm. Anyhow, believers will lose their lives for their faith, belief and alliance to Jesus Christ.

Yes there is enough text in the Bible to distinguish the two.

Hope that helps some?

So it seems a lot of those signs could be seen as happing currently?

Originally posted by daggyz
Anyone with any sense of intelligence would know that Jesus Christ is not a man, born in the last 30 years and currently living like any other human being and suddenly exposes himself. If you know anything about JC you would know what the Bible actually says about his return and that it is suddenly and dramatic. If that's what the Bible says what will happen then anyone posing as Jesus is instantly shown to be nut's, drugges or an ATS member

[edit on 1-4-2010 by daggyz]

I'm sure many a man said the same thing 2000 years ago.

[edit on 1-4-2010 by dPD89]

Originally posted by dPD89
reply to post by hippomchippo

 

What, so you don't believe a philosophical discussion on the notion of faith and what it means to have faith in something is not warranted on these forums?

An analogy:-
I can not see, feel or touch Radiowaves but I have certainty that they are there in the air. Because when I switch on my Radio I get some cool music.
However Marconi had Faith that Radiowaves existed and so he did some experiments and then he was then certain that they were there.
Faith can lead to certainty.


faith    Spelled[feyth]
–noun 1. confidence or trust in a person or thing: faith in another's ability. 2. belief that is not based on proof: He had faith that the hypothesis would be substantiated by fact.

cer·tain·ty    /ˈsɜrtnti/ Show Spelled[sur-tn-tee] –noun,plural-ties.
1. the state of being certain.
2. something certain; an assured fact.

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reply to post by dPD89


So it seems a lot of those signs could be seen as happing currently?

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Yes, except the severity increased, and the one world govt/anti christ - toss in the changing of the laws - i.e. making homosexuality "legally" acceptable, as well as this "agenda" being taught in K-12 in alot of schools now.

Plus, removing God from schools, govt, city/county activity, offices, etc.

In other words, any Biblical sin - x10 in severity increase.

If you follow Revelation, and Daniel, in the King James Bible, you will pretty much know what's coming. And yep, I do believe it is at our doorstep about to knock.

reply to post by dPD89


Ok... 'Jesus'.

Sit down. Comfy? Good.

Now- WHERE were you when I needed you most? Where were you the fateful day my life went upside down and thru a woodchipper? Where do you go when the people who I know SCREAM for you in desperation- only to have *their* lives go completely to pot? Where are you when people use your name for their own personal gains- ruining lives, ruining families, and yet living like kings?? Where are you when a child is abused or dies needlessly? Where are you when someone has no where else to turn, no ONE else to turn to, and commits suicide, because the pain IS too much for them to bear? (Continues on for the better part of an hour and another 3 pages)

Where in the hell ARE YOU?? Oh- you're a make believe fake. That explains everything. Go get in the room with Santa, the Easter Bunny, and the Tooth Fairy. *locks door*

Well- That was fun. Who's up for Chinese?

English wasn't the Word, Greek was...

PISTIS is 'Reliance' or 'Trustfulness' and by extens 'Constancy' or 'Fidelity' upon the 'Worthiness'
('Validity') or 'Assurance' PISTOS of a truth told (having a witness or evidence), from
the 'Persuasiveness' PEIThOS or 'Convincing' capacity ('Certainty') PEIThW of a matter.

Now what is the Hebrew line of Truth? Anyone?


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Originally posted by nomorecruelty

Originally posted by Hondahawk

Originally posted by nomorecruelty
Originally posted by Hondahawk
Faith to me is not blindly following words. Its a feeling of when you know its right.

======================================================

That is exactly what 'faith' is -

"Certainty" is when you know you are right.

Having faith is being certain

[edit on 1-4-2010 by Hondahawk]

Faith:

Belief that does not rest on logical proof or material evidence. ...

We are to have faith even without seeing - that's why it's called "blind faith".

I can assure you I did not get my faith from some dictionary or a bible

reply to post by dPD89


Also, as some may have already mentioned - when Jesus Christ returns, EVERYONE will see Him - not some man claiming to be Christ over in Israel/Jerusalem - which is where the antichrist is supposed to be when he claims he is christ.

The entire world will see Jesus' return - yes, globally, and at the exact same time. Not on television, cable, internet or carrier pigeon - but in person, all will see Him.

But a dollar to a donut, there will be millions, if not more, that will hear the false guy claiming he is Jesus -and they will break their necks getting to Israel to worship him.


There will also be a HUUUUUUUGE statue erected - the antichrist will require that all people worship the statue - and he will even cause it to speak.

There are ALOT of characteristics mentioned in the Bible - mostly in Daniel and Revelation. So if you want to ensure you aren't deceived....... get your head in the Bible.



[edit on 1-4-2010 by nomorecruelty]

My opinion has always been and remains the same that most people are so spiritually blind that they wouldn't know Christ if he were standing right in front of them.

Originally posted by Hondahawk

I can assure you I did not get my faith from some dictionary or a bible

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Well, there's still time to find faith in the Bible - b/c it is going

to suck royally if you wait until the anti christ shows up.

Originally posted by wylekat
reply to post by dPD89

 

Ok... 'Jesus'.

Sit down. Comfy? Good.

Now- WHERE were you when I needed you most? Where were you the fateful day my life went upside down and thru a woodchipper? Where do you go when the people who I know SCREAM for you in desperation- only to have *their* lives go completely to pot? Where are you when people use your name for their own personal gains- ruining lives, ruining families, and yet living like kings?? Where are you when a child is abused or dies needlessly? Where are you when someone has no where else to turn, no ONE else to turn to, and commits suicide, because the pain IS too much for them to bear? (Continues on for the better part of an hour and another 3 pages)

Where in the hell ARE YOU?? Oh- you're a make believe fake. That explains everything. Go get in the room with Santa, the Easter Bunny, and the Tooth Fairy. *locks door*

Well- That was fun. Who's up for Chinese?

God intervenes when He sees the need - but He also gives mankind free will - yes, there are deaths, diseases, murders, pain, suffering, etc.......... but think about this .........

What if life were picture postcard perfect - no pain, no suffering - everyone walked around like lit'l programmed robots doing what their "chip" told them to.

What would the purpose of creating a world be then? What lessons would any of us learn if everything went "great" all the time with NO negative things happening?

Most humans, when their lives are going good, they are so busy enjoying it, never once stopping to thank God for their life going good - or learning any lessons from the "good times".

We learn life's hard lessons during the bad times - not the good times.

God knows that if there were no bad times, we would just take life, and Him, for granite - exactly like most of us do now.

He allows pain and suffering in order to bring us closer to Him.

But your post should be the poster child for the "World Human" - because that is exactly how most of mankind feels today - they don't have one shred of gratitude for what is going right, and good, in their lives - but boy, let something go wrong, and they're all over God like gravy on rice.

It's pride - it's vanity - it's greed - it's ungratefulness - it's disrespectful - it's thankless..........it's the human way it seems.

Originally posted by nomorecruelty

Originally posted by wylekat
reply to post by dPD89

 

Ok... 'Jesus'.

Sit down. Comfy? Good.

Now- WHERE were you when I needed you most? Where were you the fateful day my life went upside down and thru a woodchipper? Where do you go when the people who I know SCREAM for you in desperation- only to have *their* lives go completely to pot? Where are you when people use your name for their own personal gains- ruining lives, ruining families, and yet living like kings?? Where are you when a child is abused or dies needlessly? Where are you when someone has no where else to turn, no ONE else to turn to, and commits suicide, because the pain IS too much for them to bear? (Continues on for the better part of an hour and another 3 pages)

Where in the hell ARE YOU?? Oh- you're a make believe fake. That explains everything. Go get in the room with Santa, the Easter Bunny, and the Tooth Fairy. *locks door*

Well- That was fun. Who's up for Chinese?

God intervenes when He sees the need - but He also gives mankind free will - yes, there are deaths, diseases, murders, pain, suffering, etc.......... but think about this .........

What if life were picture postcard perfect - no pain, no suffering - everyone walked around like lit'l programmed robots doing what their "chip" told them to.

What would the purpose of creating a world be then? What lessons would any of us learn if everything went "great" all the time with NO negative things happening?

Most humans, when their lives are going good, they are so busy enjoying it, never once stopping to thank God for their life going good - or learning any lessons from the "good times".

We learn life's hard lessons during the bad times - not the good times.

God knows that if there were no bad times, we would just take life, and Him, for granite - exactly like most of us do now.

He allows pain and suffering in order to bring us closer to Him.

But your post should be the poster child for the "World Human" - because that is exactly how most of mankind feels today - they don't have one shred of gratitude for what is going right, and good, in their lives - but boy, let something go wrong, and they're all over God like gravy on rice.

It's pride - it's vanity - it's greed - it's ungratefulness - it's disrespectful - it's thankless..........it's the human way it seems.

I understand that anyone at anytime can change their own state of mind and they don't necessarily need bad events to trigger them.
I see it everyday in life where one person told they have cancer and are going to die in 3 months. Then they just simply give up cause the "Doc" told em! and so they let life dissolve before their eyes.
Then you get the other person given the same prognosis and who then stands up and grabs life by the "BALLS" and says
"I aint done with this life yet!" and so they do everything they can to get better and through there own positive determined state of mind change their outcome of their lives and actually recover and return back to normal health.

So in summing up GOD gave us a powerful mind and also some, " Balls!"(spirit) its up to us whether we use them or shrink away in to the shadows and blame him and everyone else for our perceived woes!!!

Hmm I see Jesus Christ or Yeshua Ben Joseph had this understanding when he showed people they could heal themselves.

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Jesus !
Jesus is that you?
Where the F*@K have you been?
Do you have any idea what the hell has been going on here?
Let me tell you!
There's these people that call themselves christians, they are going around telling everyone that they are following your word, and are first in line to walk through the gates of heaven, but but but, get this Jesus, there's like a dozen different groups with different names but they all call themselves your children, and and and they fight WITH eachother, arguing over who's Jesus is the better Jesus, or the right Jesus.

Jesus: What! are you serious? That doesnt even make sense.

I know I know Jesus but it has been crazy since you left.
There have been millions and millions and millions of people killed because these christians believe they have to kill them because that's what you want them to do.
I mean entire WARS are fought about this christianity idea,
They've wiped out entire civilizations.

Jesus: Who started this?

Theyre saying you did!

Jesus: I did? How the hell is this my doing?
Who's in charge?

This guy called the Pope, it's suppose to be YOU leading the biggest group of all, the Roman Catholics.

Jesus: Roman ? Catholic? oh that doesnt even sound good, those romans were hard to get along with, they beat the crap out of me.
Well I hope the children are at least getting some good care?

Um Jesus, we need to talk about that a little bit, these romans theyve been having an extended field day with the kids, I mean there's alot of sexual abuse and cover ups and such.

Jesus: Where is this S.O.B. the Pope, I've got a can of heavenly whoop ass I need to deliver.

(yeah so back to your question, I guess youre Jesus ?)