Anti-Gravity Technology Is Real. Thank You Nikolas Tesla & John Hutchison!

Originally posted by Gojira
reply to post by K J Gunderson

 

Indeed, A quick Google search revealed lots of other spam posts from PookztA.

A quick post history search reveals all 22 of your posts here at ats have been in the Hutchison threads. I guess we know why your here.

Interesting that your listed friend "Rey T Fox"s all 10 posts are in the Hutchison thread. Interesting that you joined ats 1 day after him.

Bearden's leet! When they start calling you a crackpot, you know you reached the plateau.

reply to post by Freezer


What does my post history tell you then?

Now, can you please explain to me how a credible scientist can say that watching a guy do tricks on video is "examining the data?"

www.youtube.com...
was posted by pookzta
With a very large info section.
Yes Freezer and Gojira contributors when things go wrong they
really go wrong.
As with trying to understand something that does not exist like Hutchison.
Brought to us by the same people that deny UFO and give up aliens.
Spielberg gave us aliens cause he works with the imagination, its allowed.
The Hutchinson faker was dismissed as a group from Los Alamos and
the CIA setting up the upside down camera setup in a Tesla forum.

The channel
www.youtube.com...

Bearden might have heard things but can't relate as he has no
admittance to the Oppenheimer Library at Los Alamos thats for sure.

Force at a distance was a Tesla proposal and no one else's.
People heard, it was in the newspapers.
ED: There is something to the Death Ray as this would be of up most
in taking Tesla entire work and locking it up even over the UFO
propulsion. Germany may have been past much of Tesla technology
to work on the Ray. This caught the War Department or whoever
found out by surprise that Germany was working on Tesla devices.
Quite impractical today like 5 or 50 mile long windings in a ship that
powers on free energy which I'd say better is better than nuke.


[edit on 3/22/2010 by TeslaandLyne]

Originally posted by K J Gunderson
reply to post by Freezer

 

What does my post history tell you then?

I don't know, never looked.

Originally posted by K J Gunderson
reply to post by Freezer

 

Now, can you please explain to me how a credible scientist can say that watching a guy do tricks on video is "examining the data?"

To what credible scientist are you referring? As as far as tricks go, the only tricks I've seen are the video's set out to debunk Hutchison. If you believe the Hutchison video's are tricks then why not provide some evidence which gives definitive proof that the videos were faked. Maybe because there is none? As it stands now, no one here has provided any solid evidence that the videos were faked.

Again, I haven't made my mind up either way, but as a personal rule I will always give the individual the benefit of the doubt until such definitive proof is provided that says otherwise. I'm not gonna believe they were faked just because someone else can shake objects in a cardboard box, or do composite video editing. One thing that does fall in Hutchison's favor is Marcus Reids crystal battery replication.

reply to post by Freezer

A quick post history search reveals all 22 of your posts here at ats have been in the Hutchison threads.

So what, you have 34 posts in Hutchison threads. Speculate all you want about me, my intentions and my reasons for posting here. That's what conspiracy theorists do, isn't it?

Originally posted by Freezer

To what credible scientist are you referring? As as far as tricks go, the only tricks I've seen are the video's set out to debunk Hutchison. If you believe the Hutchison video's are tricks then why not provide some evidence which gives definitive proof that the videos were faked. Maybe because there is none? As it stands now, no one here has provided any solid evidence that the videos were faked.

No one has provided any proof that they are real either. Why would you think one lack of proof trumps the other?

He is the one making the claims, the burden of proof lies on him and him alone. If all he can produce is videos and NO DATA or replicable results then he has NO PROOF OF HIS CLAIMS.

See how that all works out? The burden of proof lies on Hutchison and he has yet to prove any of his videos are anything other than trickery.

Are you getting this yet?

Originally posted by Gojira
reply to post by Freezer

 

A quick post history search reveals all 22 of your posts here at ats have been in the Hutchison threads.

So what, you have 34 posts in Hutchison threads. Speculate all you want about me, my intentions and my reasons for posting here. That's what conspiracy theorists do, isn't it?

Yea, only difference is I have 504 that are not related to Hutchison, you have none. Not counting your little "buddy" of course. The great thing about post history is I don't have to "speculate", it is what it is.

Originally posted by K J Gunderson
No one has provided any proof that they are real either. Why would you think one lack of proof trumps the other?

Exactly there is no proof either way, so on what basis do people have calling him a fraud?

Originally posted by K J Gunderson
He is the one making the claims, the burden of proof lies on him and him alone. If all he can produce is videos and NO DATA or replicable results then he has NO PROOF OF HIS CLAIMS.

Who said he had proof of his claims? Who said he even cares if there is proof?

Originally posted by K J Gunderson
See how that all works out? The burden of proof lies on Hutchison and he has yet to prove any of his videos are anything other than trickery.

Are you getting this yet?

And the naysayers have yet to prove any of his videos were anything other than real.

Are you getting this yet?

[edit on 22-3-2010 by Freezer]

Originally posted by Freezer


Exactly there is no proof either way, so on what basis do people have calling him a fraud?

He made a claim and has pretended to prove it over and over it again but has failed to actually provide any real proof. That is what a fraud does.

Who said he had proof of his claims? Who said he even cares if there is proof?

His website and many of his supporters here on ATS.

And the naysayers have yet to prove any of his videos were anything other than real.

Are you getting this yet?

Is that really the level of logic you are working with?

They are videos that do not even LOOK convincing in many cases. They are full of wild claims about what is happening but no proof that what is said and shown is what is really happening. You do not prove a negative, he has to prove his positive claim.

reply to post by Freezer


Hutchinson has never allowed anyone else to independently film his experiments. That alone should raise big red flags about the sincerity of his claims.

I have, to this date, never heard of anyone besides Hutchinson being able to reproduce his "experiments" using any of his claimed methodology. The only manner in which his "experiments" have been reproduced is by camera trickery.

While this may not be "proof" of his being a fraud, it raises SERIOUS doubts about his claims.

Originally posted by K J Gunderson
He made a claim and has pretended to prove it over and over it again but has failed to actually provide any real proof. That is what a fraud does.

And again the naysayers have failed to provide any real proof of fraud.
Sorry but just because he believes in his work, and has failed to duplicate what he might have stumbled upon does not constitute proof of fraud.

Originally posted by K J Gunderson
His website and many of his supporters here on ATS.

So how exactly does his website state that he cares about proof of his claims? Personally I think he could care less if people think he's a fraud.

Originally posted by K J Gunderson
They are videos that do not even LOOK convincing in many cases. They are full of wild claims about what is happening but no proof that what is said and shown is what is really happening. You do not prove a negative, he has to prove his positive claim.

Sorry but your opinion of his videos are not "proof" of fraud.

Originally posted by BomSquad
Hutchinson has never allowed anyone else to independently film his experiments. That alone should raise big red flags about the sincerity of his claims.

I have, to this date, never heard of anyone besides Hutchinson being able to reproduce his "experiments" using any of his claimed methodology. The only manner in which his "experiments" have been reproduced is by camera trickery.

While this may not be "proof" of his being a fraud, it raises SERIOUS doubts about his claims.

Agreed, there should be a bit of doubt, I only state that before you call someone a fraud, you should at least have some solid evidence to back it up, and as far as Hutchison's video's go, there is none.

[edit on 22-3-2010 by Freezer]

Personally I think he could care less if people think he's a fraud.

Actually he does. He calls them "stalkers". Look here:

there is no proof either way, so on what basis do people have calling him a fraud?

Look here:

And here:



[edit on 22-3-2010 by Gojira]

reply to post by Freezer


Don't sweat the Lizard lovers/supporters.

I can't get over how simple it is to spot them.(mostly by what they say and do on this board). Yes, read their posts and see their replies, then you will know them. That is why they change their IP's so often.

The world government, who all governments operate as agents for, have developed Tesla technology much farther than they let on. Now they spend a lot of time on conspiracy sites putting out fires.

Originally posted by win 52
reply to post by Freezer

 

Don't sweat the Lizard lovers/supporters.

I can't get over how simple it is to spot them.(mostly by what they say and do on this board). Yes, read their posts and see their replies, then you will know them. That is why they change their IP's so often.

The world government, who all governments operate as agents for, have developed Tesla technology much farther than they let on. Now they spend a lot of time on conspiracy sites putting out fires.

Mind if I inquire as to whom you are claiming are lizards here?

reply to post by K J Gunderson

I think Win 52™ is referring to the shape-shifting kind. One wonders if David Ike was a fan of the show V: The Final Battle back in the 80's?

[edit on 22-3-2010 by Gojira]

Originally posted by Gojira
reply to post by K J Gunderson

 

You know, the shape-shifting kind. One wonders if David Ike was a fan of the show V: The Final Battle back in the 80's?


[edit on 22-3-2010 by Gojira]

I just was not sure if he was referring to you, me, or someone else since we are the ones responding at the moment. I just like to be at least told if I can shapeshift. To think I have been wasting that kind of talent and did not even know.

reply to post by K J Gunderson

LOL! Win 52 fails to recognize Raptor Jebus, the only true savior™

Yeah dude, avatar, looks like a lizard.

[In his original foundations for the Bavarian Illuminati, officially instituted by Adam Weishaupt on May 1,1776, his stated purposes were good: “Princes and nations will disappear... Reason will be the only code of man. “ Weishaupt recognized no divine power outside of Man, and often referred to “...Nature and Nature’s God”. ] [ Their purpose was the control of the world through religion. To this end, a new religion, called “OSTARA “—‘designed’ by Georg Lanz von Liebenfels—was promoted through the S.S. and the Thule Society. This new Nazi religion used ancient religious mythology as its basis, falsely depicting the ‘gods’ as “aliens”. For example, the Egyptian God of Darkness, Apepi (Apophis), a serpent, was claimed to be a “reptilian alien god” which lived under the Great Pyramid at Giza.

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So how is Giza today.
If David Ike only knew about shape shifting Avatars.
I think the shape shifting came from the UFO people cause they never see
the ship among the generated ether effects.

ED: For the origins of dragons and animal head gods and other ancient
origins see Velikovsky
www.varchive.org...


[edit on 3/22/2010 by TeslaandLyne]

reply to post by TeslaandLyne

Yeah dude, avatar, looks like a lizard.

I believe the Na'vi are humanoid and not reptilian.

So how is Giza today.

Clear. High: 25 °C . Wind North 25 km/h .

In the paranoid mind, the Illuminati succeeded in their goals, and have now infiltrated every government and every aspect of society. They are responsible for every evil and every unjust act that ever occurs anywhere; the fact that absolutely no evidence of their existence can be found only serves to make them stronger and more frightening. They are the demon in the closet, and will probably never disappear from the paranoid fantasy world of right-wing conspiracy theorists.

[edit on 23-3-2010 by Gojira]

reply to post by Gojira


Raptor Jebus just thinks he is hot crap because of "Jurassic Park." He should totally beware of Satan's dinos!

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/9f51a0ec354b.jpg[/atsimg]

Oh yeah, I mean thanks for posting those videos. They tied up waaaaaaaaaaaay too much of my time on Youtube last night but very interesting.

[edit on 23-3-2010 by K J Gunderson]

reply to post by K J Gunderson

LOL, too funny!
Jupy's got some great stuff on his YouTube channel.