What might really be happening in Washington State?

Sigh.... Okay, I'm about to let all my 'crazy' hang out in 3...2...1:

My cats have been bizarre more and more lately. But the last couple of days my girl-cat, Raven, has really been outdoing herself. And my boy-cat, Gir, has become a permanent fixture of my lap. He's usually easy to shoo away, he insists on being or wrapped around me 24/7. I'm very in tune with my animals. I know when they are sick, in pain, or just complaining. This behavior of late does not fit into any of the easily explained categories.

Raven has been following me around the house, doing this odd cat meowling, quick and repeatedly like she's patiently, but frustratingly trying to tell me that something is wrong. It's so insistent that she has gotten fresh food, water, a thoroughly cleaned out litter box, held & walked...you name it, I've done it.

She has started following me all over the house. No matter where I go, I look, and she's sitting right next to me and staring up at me. But today she took it to another level. I was taking a shower, and she was in the bathroom too - which is not unusual. I was in a nice, calm peaceful state, just enjoying being in the moment. I wasn't thinking of what I would be doing afterwards or what I was doing before. I went to put conditioner in my hair, and saw Raven sitting on the edge of the tub between the shower curtain and the clear liner.

She's never done that while I was actually in the shower. Not once. I can't emphasize enough, that she is a cat. And not one that voluntarily gets that close to a shower (liner or no). I stopped a moment and she did that meowling thing again. I was still in a calm state but in the background I had this, hurry up and get out of the shower. You don't want to be in a shower when an earthquake hits. Say what?! I don't even understand where the thought came from since I was in a completely different state of mind than when I'm thinking about those things.

So I hurried up (and yet I was still in a calm state), and right as I finished getting dressed, I am certain I felt a very subtle shaking. It was only a couple of seconds and a bouncy up/down sensation. It was at about 12:57 pm PST. I've felt at least two more since then.

I live in an aparment building on the 3rd floor. We're way out past horse pastures & in a mostly wooded area, so it's very quiet area. I've been here a couple of years, and these buildings were built well enough that I'm not aware of my neighbors (or rarely). I've been in apartments most of my life and very aware of the different floor/building vibrations & shaking.

I was in the Nisqually quake so I know what an earthquake feels like. I'm extremely sensitive & aware of my environment and I have felt very sublte earthquakes that I was able to confirm later online at USGS. I know the difference between a truck driving by (which we can't feel in these buildings), floor vibrations due to neighbors or us doing things, and the actual feeling of the earth moving.

I guess I'm just trying to say, to people who don't know me or my background, that I'm very sure of what it wasn't...and that the only experience I've ever had of feeling this before has been, indeed, earthquakes. BUT, I cannot rule out it being something completely new - that is none of the above.

Sorry about the length, this is much more than I intended to write. I'm still in a state of calm and it's not my intention to cause alarm. This just seemed like an important thing to share. As westcoast mentioned, it's just one more reason to be prepared. Personally, I've got my bug out bags ready (a backpack for myself & one for my son), cat carriers out & extra food/water in the house, etc. There is nothing else a person can do to prepare for a natural event, except make peace with yourself and that what will be will be.

reply to post by onthelookout

You're not crazy. You're far from it.

The people who are trying to pretend that everything's always going to be okay are crazy. Because it's not always going to be that way. History tells us that. I'd be happy if your part of the world would stay nice and seismically peaceful for at least a few more decades, but we have to be realists here and accept that while it might, it could be that it won't.

The way that data on PNSN got pulled is a major worry and I'm not kidding. It's major. I've checked as best as I can and they just don't do things like that. And pulling data at half-past midnight? The day after one of the biggest quakes in a century hits on the other side of the Pacific plate? (BTW I added to my post on the previous page. Gives my feelings on this a bit more.)

Are you communicating with westcoast and others in the region? I mean, by private message etc? If not then I'd recommend contacting her.

MIke

reply to post by JustMike


Thank you JustMike. It was because of you guys talking about that happening that made me decided to go ahead and share. Personal experiences may be all we have to go on at the moment if the data got pulled, so I wanted to contribute.

Being in touch with others in the area wouldn't be such a bad idea, I'd welcome anyone local who wants to U2U me.

reply to post by onthelookout

Glad to help. I also responded to your posts on the "Experiments in Quake Prediction" thread. Good and sensible input is always going to be welcome and we truly welcome yours.

And yes, I really think it would be a good idea for all of you from the west coast region to get in touch with one another. There may come a time when someone might need a helping hand. I'm way over the other side of the Pond and in the middle of Europe, but all the same, people are people and if we can support one another even just with our words and heartfelt thoughts then it has to make things a little brighter.

And as it's coming up to 1:30 am here, I might head off to bed... My ambition is to get to sleep a little earlier than I've (we've!) been doing lately. But I'm not complaining. Any little worries or problems I've had pale into insignificance compared to the misery so many of our fellow people in Japan have been going through.

I just cannot imagine how bad it must have been. Just watching the footage of that disaster has left me in tears a few times.

I recall on the Chile quake thread last year, we had a member who lived in one of the towns that was hit by that magnitude 8.8 quake. It wasn't just the immediate effects, what really got to him and made it hit home for us was what he said about the aftershocks, about how they just went on and on and on and on, day after day and night after night. They were all living in a state of permanent physical and mental exhaustion... Anyone who read what he told us and whose heart didn't ache for him and all those he knew and who suffered with him, just didn't have a soul.

Okay I'd better go. Goodnight. Stay safe, my friends. All of you. Please.

MIke

Okay, a few things. First, JustMike, I think you are right, unfortunately. I just checked the tremor map and it correlates with the spectogram I kinked earlier. 245 [correction, 274]for today. I did the time plot again to post, but went through and saved all the tremor info. (took 9 pages) Just incase it disappears again.





I think this is very telling...and again scary.

Second...I just did this screen shot of a siesmic station on GEE local to me. What do you guys make of it? Wind? (it is very windy here)

reply to post by onthelookout


Would you please look at this interactive station map? Check out the stations nearest to you and see if there was any activity:

MAP


I certainly don't think you are crazy. It is around the same time my dog was freaking out.

Something is up.

Okay, here is another one. This one has me stumped.

reply to post by westcoast


I sent you a U2U letting you know the stations closest to where I live. I don't know what I'm looking at, and I'd rather someone who is more unbiased look at them anyways.

Well, that data from the 12th that was deleted IS strange for sure!

I did notice the 27 tremors on the 9th and was going to post it, got sidetracked then Japan happened.

Will check the tremor map more often now.

ETA
This is something I have not noticed before when you place your mouse on the highlighted dates on the drop down calendar

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NW northwest
SW southwest
CO coast?
SO ?
NC ?

Real quick....my intense sense of doom is coming back again. Hopefully it is not tied into anything new.

reply to post by berkeleygal


Southern Oregon and Northern California?


Oh man....I am starting to get earaches....both ears. This is not normal....

The pressure feeling I've been getting in my body (gravity-like force) just keeps intensifying, headache pains shooting through my head, and ears feeling pressurized more and more. This is getting bananas.

I don't feel things like that! Sometimes I wish I did tho...

Hope you feel better soon and that nothing happens!

I am watching The Core, to further scare the crap out of myself...

Okay guys, I finally found a webicorder showing what I am seeing on GEE (thanks Puterman).

Anyone have an idea what I am seeing??? Scary looking

WEBI

Does anyone have any updates for this? I can hardly stand the pressure I'm feeling in my body anymore.

reply to post by berkeleygal

Good morning, everyone. Lots to respond to on the thread but first I'd like to answer this query about those two-letter designations, because I noticed this last night and wondered about it for a while until it clicked.

They are just short forms for the regions that are shown in the top left of the page:
Vancouver Island................VI (ie, V and capital "i")
Northern Washington..........NW
Southern Washington.........SW
Northern Oregon.................NO
Central Oregon...................CO
Southern Oregon................SO
Northern California..............NC

So -- mystery solved!

The second thing I'd like to comment on is the way the data summary is presented. For March 13, it shows:
03/13/2011
18 Hours
274 Epicenters (UTC)

I think it's important to keep a few things in mind. Firstly, please note that the times shown in the "normal" display are UTC, not US Pacific time. So, the starting time for each day for the maps (and the tremors shown on them) is actually eight hours before that day ends in the PNW. This also means that if we are trying to find any correlation between activity in the PNW and (say) Japan, we need to be sure we're looking at the right day!

Secondly, the "18 hours" does not refer to the time span of the tremors from start to finish. Rather, it specifies the total amount of tremor time recorded. If that sounds like the same thing, it isn't. On the above-cited day, for example, the time of the first tremor was:
2011-03-13 00:00:00

The next one was at:
2011-03-13 00:05:00

The tremors continue throughout the entire 24-hour period, with not one hour being missed. Things were shaking all day. So, while it says "18 hours" (of tremor) in the summary, that means the total time that actual shaking events were recorded, not the period from when the first tremor started til the last one finished. To be fair, it's not like they are trying to hide anything by that, though. It's just that we need to be sure to interpret what's given to us.

I feel that in future we should try and get a copy of the tremor times list, though. Just the raw list alone will give us a better idea of what the time in the summary really means.

Finally, I'd like to point out that the first tremor listed for the above date began bang on midnight. And yet, if we are supposed to accept PNSN's current data for March 12 are correct, there were no tremors at all on that day. Just a whopping 274 the next day (way above the norm), beginning at 00:00:00 hours.

Yeah, sure. Luckily we know that's not the real case.

Bad move on their part to pull that data for March 12. Very bad idea. That's not good science.

Mike

Just looking at the pnsn webis, they are all over the place. You'd think someone was standing next to them shaking them.

reply to post by westcoast


I live in the UK so very far away from you guy's. I just wanted to add that since Saturday evening I've been feeling unwell. Got a cold.

Thats not the concern, I've got this strange pressure feeling in my ears and sort of pressure headache.
I no i don't have an ear infection and i can safely say that my ears have never felt like this before. I have also had the "butterfly feeling" in my stomach since Friday. Normally when i get that feeling its not a good thing.

I really feel something big is coming, and i really hope I'm wrong.

Sorry if its off topic, but as a couple of you have had similar feelings and the pressure feelings i thought id just share it with you.

reply to post by zenius

Hi Zenius,
regarding the PNSN webis, there are some that have some pretty lively looking traces. I suspect for the most part they are wind effects (or even sea wave effects for some of the nearer-coastal ones), but there are a few that I'm not sure about. I can't tie in their traced activity to anything currently showing on GEE, though. On the other hand I did notice that some apparently reacted to the big Japan quake and there was some very local activity.

Meanwhile I've been watching about ten live feeds from west-coast US webis on GEE*** and I have to say that none of them are showing anything of any concern. If they were I'd certainly be posting it on here. I've not seen any of them get much beyond 6 microns/sec (which is effectively "background" levels), but all the same, it doesn't lessen the feeling that something could be coming up shortly.

*** The ones I'm watching on GEE are:
TA.A04D -- Lummi Island, WA,
US.NLWA -- Neilton Lookout, WA,
TA.B05D -- Stanwood, WA,
TA.D03D -- Eldon, WA,
TA.F04D -- Rainier, OR,
TA.G03D -- McMinnville, OR,
TA.H04D -- Lebanon, OR,
TA.I04A -- Tendick Farm, Oakridge, OR,
TA.J01D -- Myrtle Point, OR, and
TA.M04C -- Macdoel, CA.

I'm trying to get an overview of any non-local activity up and down the coast. Frankly at the moment I'm more concerned about any warning signs of a "big one", which is why I've chosen webis from such a long stretch of country. I'm also watching IU.MAJO in Japan just in case anything big happens there. If it does then it would show on the west coast webis some minutes later, so I'd rather know about it in advance and reduce the chances of freaking out when they all go off the scale from teleseismics.

Anywhoo, if you have any specific webis that you're most concerned about, please post links to them and we'll can all have a look and see what we can make of them. If we're really stumped we can put out a call for our resident experts.

Best regards,

Mike

reply to post by boo1981

Hello Boo and thanks for posting. You are far from being alone in your feelings. In fact, I'd like to ask you to drop over to the "Experiment in Alternative Methods of Earthquake Prediction" thread here and have a read of what other members have been saying. Please note that I didn't start that thread, I'm just rather active on it. And lately, we're getting more and more members who are posting on it and sharing similar experiences to yours.

I should also note that Westcoast posts there as well and supports what we're doing.

Best regards,

Mike