I guarantee ATS will be banned by Australian Government.

Originally posted by speedmaster
man thats a bummer

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sorry used wrong smiley

reply to post by countercounterculture

This is sad news. I had always viewed the Aussies as a fiercely independent lot. I can't be to critical since we have our own loss of freedoms here in the US. But I would have thought the Aussies would put up a more violent revolt to being subjected to government imposed slavery.

Thank you, my Australian friend for the correction. The parody was a bit on the negative influence side.

To the real issue at hand: internet censorship. Won't happen til internet becomes a dinosaur. First, the government is too far behind in technology and computer programming experience. Yes, I am aware that the governments are trying to promote the brightest minds but our brightest minds still enjoy being a teenager hacking into systems that are forbidden.

On the flip side, for those who would be required to be an authorized internet user going to only authorized sites, check out the fictional tale "Caprica" because it will explain a little about where we are now in our computer technology but more importantly, what will prevent government from a massive intrusion. For the most part, ignore the drama and focus on the technical visions. I guarnatee, our precious wee hackers still in the crib will keep a backdoor open for all untraceable posts and sites.

Have faith in our future: our children are really smarter than we could have hoped them to be. Not to mention, but I will: the lost generation will definitely see to it that their freedoms will not be compromised again in this lifetime, especially by governments and religions. That does not mean we have such an advantage in the rest of the world.

Just in case, I will make sure to e-visit my friends on the big island-continent of Australia and if something spooky happens or silence, I will report it here and everywhere so other special friends can help open the lines of communication back up for you and every Austrailian resident that needs needs to be heard.

Silence is only golden for the ones in power that don't want to hear, but friend to friend is a whole other matter especially for blabbers and collaberators like the ATS. Fallen members will be recognized, I am sure, and I know something will be done. Can't get around global communication unless the whole world shuts down.

LOL! Now that is funny!!

Their idea for a cleaner internet sounds good to me, but they are doing it the wrong way.

Instead of placing restrictions on a national level, they should get each ISP to implement them on their own level, then give each customer a portal where they can "opt out" out of each type of filtering they want.

That type of filtering has been around for ages and is fairly easy to implement.

Awesome. I chose PERVERT option - just to piss them off.

I hope internet goes down, because it is threat to NWO. I am openly for NWO, because it is an inevitability and the sooner the better, because delaying it means more suffering.

Proponents of NWO have massive power - military, financial, control of information and power to implement ideas (ideologies).

My fear is that the AU program is just a prototype for similar restrictions to be enforced in the US and UK. Am I the only one that noticed how much the internet is being blamed for Jihad Jane, the IRS kamikaze guy, the pentagon shooter? It is terrifying! I know the media already fears the internet because online news content has absolutely destroyed print and most television news, but I feel there is a government agenda in there too.

If you can control the internet, you can control how the masses interpret events. If the internet if free, open and unrestricted, people will be able to see different viewpoints and interpretations of an event. This is dangerous if you are interested in manipulation.

I'd love to be wrong, but I fear we will see global net usage restrictions over the next few years.

The reasoning will be: (take your pick)
- National Security
- Save the Children
- It corrupts your soul

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They access the internet through proxies in China, so I've heard. But I totally agree with you.

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Yeah I agree, as soon as one western democracy does it then many others will follow the model.
What I find surprising is that not only is it mandatory, and not voluntary like most other filters in western countries, but that the refused content is so broad.

you would think they would try to ease the public in, with just the 'oh, the children' arguments, but it goes much further than that, and I'm sure once its introduced, slowly but surely, more and more content will be added to the blacklist.

I don't mean more sites, but more types of restricted content. I don't think there's ever been a mandatory filter anywhere that hasn't become manipulated to serve corrupt political madness.

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ah, cool!?

yay(?) for NWO because its so big and powerful??!

yay for supporting the inevitable?!

I don't know how to grasp your post, so I won't!

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I wish I could give you more stars!

I've scrolled down this thread many times and every time I see the Conroy 'I should have started with the easier ones first' pic, I crack up.

Awesome post

Cheers


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Mate just believe in freedom and fight for it that's more than enough. When people start giving up the Nations starts falling down.


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The thing that really pisses me off the most is that the average person i speak to down the street thinks it's a great idea......even after i explain to them that it's taking away there freedom.

A mate i spoke to last night thinks it's great their getting rid of kiddie porn(fair enough) but the moment i mentioned the other stuff like political websites,and anything Conroy dont like my mates eyes glazed over and he said good the Gov needs to take more control for the better of all of us WTF!?

He even got a little angry that i oppose the filter.
People just need to be educated.

What can i do to help educate people?
Any one have good links i can use?

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Here is my most sincere hope that you are wrong mate.
Although the case you present does make it seem that you will be proved correct.
It will be a damned sad day indeed if we lose our Austrailan brothers and sisters from ATS-This cannot be tolerated by the global ATS community-people should be queing up offering you folks free secure VPN connections IMO.

As a member of ATS I will make it my business to make alot of noise about this isssue all over the internet, if it ever comes to pass.

You have my word on that.

The masses can change things like this.
It does not have to be the way they tell you it will be.


Know any civil libitarian Australian millionaires?
They could build you guys a seperate internet pipe,screw the government filters.

Stop illegal porn,thats fine-but its never about that really is it?
Thats just the excuse they are constantly using to force compliance of the masses in the the form of their internet thought police.

I have said this many times but it is true:

You know when you hit the nerve when the system turns against that particular freedom.

What should a freedom loving government be afraid of its people learning on an uncensored internet?

Nothing...If you find your net censored,you do NOT have a freedom loving government-you have thought control,and repression IMO.

May the Austrailian ATS members NEVER lose their RIGHT to talk to their friends via this board.

And may those who seek to prevent such access hang their heads in shame.
For they do not represent any form of freedom.

Too many people here have been deeply affected by the long MSM lead up propaganda, there're too scared to be seen as kiddy fiddlers. The papers have delt with this very carefully because internet is their main enemy. Only truthers seem to know just how bad this will be. Personally I think there will be enough ways around it that we'll be ok but its the people who are yet to start their seeking that will be cut off without the carrot to lead them around the filter. On a more positive note we still have alternative magazines like nexus in the major newsagencies, If anything activism here will be less armchair based and more out and about

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Well if it is banned by the government then Im in some really big trouble, considering I work for a government organisation (Bureau of Meteorology) and post from work everytime im on

I have no worries on this issue, I cant see them banning ATS, we should be right

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hi from new zealand

the filter laws are being implemented here to and i beleive the same blocking of political speach will happen here the laws are almost identical in all countries signing up and soon will be world wide

I PROPOSE A NEW NAME FOR THE WEB

world wide censored web
WWCW



if anyone reading this thinks their country is safe then think again this is a world wide effort to regain control of the flow of information not a anti porn effort the govenments realize they are losing control and this is there effort to sensor knowledge that will set us free

i am outraged that under the cover of protecting childeren that these sum bags persacute is a loss of political freedom of expression

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Im not a fan of the net filter, but i think its a little over-dramatic to think there going to just blanket sites and turn them off in an instant.

The governments entire crux of their plan is about stopping bad stuff, ie child porn.
If they turn off sites like this in an instant, they'd have a revolt on their hands.

Im pretty sure this gov' is legit, what we need to be concerned about is the government that comes into power with ill-intentions.

Yet another shining example of political correctness gone mad.

The workaround is to use proxy or VPN. That's what they do in China, Iran and in other nations with "overprotective" governments.

Look at the bright side; using proxies/VPN is a more secure way to surf the net anyways

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the govenments should increse the fines and prison terms for the 1% of the poulation that break the law

not implement a filter solution that effects 100% of the population

example
i am illiterate and nobody should be so all people must go to special education

doesnt make sence does it?


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