The 9/11 Hijackers are Alive and Talking!

Originally posted by GoodOlDave
Wait a minute! How do you know they even recovered the DNA from the hijackers, or if it were recovered, it was even identified as belonging to the hijackers?

Thanks for agreeing with me about no DNA evidence of hijackers being alive or dead and who they are.

Originally posted by REMISNE
Thanks for agreeing with me about no DNA evidence of hijackers being alive or dead and who they are.

Huh?!? I ASKED you to please provide this "research" you claimed to have done...and you claimed this a number of times, as you recall... that showed Majed Moqed is still alive, and your response is, "thanks for agreeing with you on the DNA". What kind of answer is that? When someone asks you what time it is, do you answer, "blue mixed with yellow creates green"?

You...yes, you...claimed you've done additional research to the point where you've practically copped an attitude about it. Are you telling me you've been lying through your teeth all this time, and your "research" was entirely what this site was telling you? I will ask again- what additional research have you done that confirms Majed Moqed is still alive?

You conspiracy supporters are here to represent your side, but the only thing you've managed to do is to show yourselves to be as phony as a three dollar bill, with these antics. I'm giving you a solid gold invitation to prove the OS is a complete lie, so why don't you want to take it?

This entire argument is a straw dog distracting everyone from the clear truth. What can be truly ascertained by knowing the truth about this point? Whether dead or alive 9/11 happened. Whether they were Israeli operatives, agents of the Mossad or CIA, the planes crashed. People died. Etc. Etc.

Moreover, people need to understand history. The United States trained, funded, and equipped a militant group of Pakistanis, for the purpose of securing oil pipelines in S. Ossetia. They protected the pipelines from the Russians. This group had a leader who worked directly with the CIA as a tactician coordinating the groups movements. His name was Tim Osman. When the fighting was over and the US got the oil, we abandoned this organization, keeping a list of their names in a database titled "Al Qaeda." Tim Osman, was Osama bin Laden. A member of a family whose ties with top officials around the world is more as sickening as the fact this all remains hidden from the public.

With the proliferation of a much needed catalyst for the aforementioned hell our government wishes to impose upon the sanctity of our liberties, we used Al Qaeda as the scapegoat. Those little desert men we left behind after they did our bidding, yeah no wonder they "hate us" for our freedoms. Pfft.

But the best part is, even if you trolls want to say I'm completely wrong, it doesn't matter. There is way more to the 9/11 story which smashes the official story to pieces, and at the point where we can all recognize our own government purposefully providing an insufficient, inadequate, and completely flawed story as the official one, we must ask ourselves why we actually sit around and stand for this. I mean obviously the government is lying at the very least. Why don't we focus on why? Answers won't get us to the root of the problem at the point where there is this much controversy over evidence and truth, it's the questions that are of utmost importance, and I feel like these forums lack in people asking the most analytical and poignant questions.

Philosophers should know that's what we do, we ask questions. Discourse of the topics presented in these forums is the most prevalent form of philosophy in our society today! We're the ones who will solve these problems, but our weapons are our minds, and our minds ammo are questions! I don't give a damn if we can't show what is, but we certainly have the ability to ascertain what is not!

-Blade

[edit on 31-3-2010 by BladeDraven]

Originally posted by BladeDravenwe must ask ourselves why we actually sit around and stand for this.
[edit on 31-3-2010 by BladeDraven]

That's what I don't understand about you guys. The vast majority of you - especially on this forum - do very little to actually try to change anything. There's a lot of glorified "research" (ie looking at youtube and other conspiracy sites) and a lot of grandstanding about how stupid everybody else is, and very little in the way of actual action. Why aren't more of you out trying to change stuff, taking it directly to the people you think carried out this crime? Instead of getting annoyed on an internet forum?

reply to post by TrickoftheShade


That's an excellent point, and I want to let you know that I firmly stand for my beliefs however, as an alternative to "doing everything within my power" I do as much as I can. Similar in the way that people don't run out and single handedly overthrow a government, it takes time. I would say that the movement for disclosure begins with grassroots conversation found on these forums. I would never deny my beliefs for fear of persecution. Attacking people on the basis that we complain about things and don't do anything is a low insult. Essentially I care highly about the fact our government has committed such atrocities, but everyone deep down is either afraid or just as sad.

Its historical fact that our government commits false flag attacks. The information about the truth only to revealed some 50-75 odd years later. There will always be dissent and questions and even if people find out the truth before the truth comes out, it won't change anything.

P.S. Have you not seen the videos of people taking this literally to the FACES of the ones responsible and then being escorted away by police or something? It's happened, we're asking the questions. Some government officials are even answering.

[edit on 31-3-2010 by BladeDraven]

Originally posted by GoodOlDave
Huh?!? I ASKED you to please provide this "research" you claimed to have done...

Actually i was posting to what you stated about DNA.

You...yes, you...claimed you've done additional research to the point where you've practically copped an attitude about it.

Yes, i have done research and cannot find any evidence that contridicts what i have posted about the hijackers that are alive. Specifically DNA evidence.

Originally posted by BladeDraven
reply to post by TrickoftheShade

 

That's an excellent point, and I want to let you know that I firmly stand for my beliefs however, as an alternative to "doing everything within my power" I do as much as I can. Similar in the way that people don't run out and single handedly overthrow a government, it takes time. I would say that the movement for disclosure begins with grassroots conversation found on these forums. I would never deny my beliefs for fear of persecution. Attacking people on the basis that we complain about things and don't do anything is a low insult. Essentially I care highly about the fact our government has committed such atrocities, but everyone deep down is either afraid or just as sad.

Fair enough. My point isn't aimed at you personally, but more at a general atmosphere of non-participation that I see here a lot. It's almost as though some people feel comforted by the idea that there's nothing they can do. The PTB are just too powerful, so they might as well not bother. Psychologically that might be an interesting stance to investigate.

Its historical fact that our government commits false flag attacks. The information about the truth only to revealed some 50-75 odd years later. There will always be dissent and questions and even if people find out the truth before the truth comes out, it won't change anything.

That's not really true. Indeed it really is a case of giving up. Look at the efforts of investigators who've uncovered genuine conspiracies and ask yourself if they didn't change anything. Watergate, for example.

P.S. Have you not seen the videos of people taking this literally to the FACES of the ones responsible and then being escorted away by police or something? It's happened, we're asking the questions. Some government officials are even answering.

[edit on 31-3-2010 by BladeDraven]

Again, fair enough. There are certainly people in the TM who are very active, but there are very few of them around here as far as I can see. And as I am always being told, it's wrong to characterise all 9/11 conspiracy believers as part of the same camp. So really there is no "we", I suppose.