Israeli Official: West Has 4-8 Weeks Left for Iran Diplomacy

Israeli Official: West Has 4-8 Weeks Left for Iran Diplomacy

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Adding to the harsh rhetoric coming out of the nation is recent days, Israel’s Deputy Foreign Minister Danny Ayalon today announced that the nation was giving the West another 4-8 weeks to attempt diplomacy with Iran, and that after that they would have to impose crippling sanctions on the nation.

Israel’s threats against Iran are not new, but the growing number of US official visits in recent days are seen as being at least in part based on fear that an Israeli attack could be in the offing.

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Some timeline to war has been given... For a long time we have dates given, but as usual - no accurate dates. What I see in 4-8 weeks, there will be no new sanctions on their way, Russia and China has torpedoed those thoughts in UN.

So is it only a month or two to beginning of showdown with Iran?

Very hard to believe, specially now when Iranian opposition loose their momentum - but yes, we do have signs from war ME all-out war is coming, but in the other hand, signs how impossible that situation would be... Escalation and WW3 I mean.

Iranian situation is just something we have to keep following!

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reply to post by JanusFIN


Do you believe Israel will attack Iran? If so, will that drag the US into war as well? Why?

Sorry for the questions, but I am a newbie to these issues and I don't know the background info.

Foreign Minister Danny Ayalon today announced that the nation was giving the West another 4-8 weeks to attempt diplomacy with Iran, and that after that they would have to impose crippling sanctions on the nation.

Or what? I'm reading an unspoken threat there. Is anyone else getting that impression?

Why is it OK for Israel to dictate to "the west" when it is time for us to begin "crippling sanctions?"

It quite simply is not for Israel to tell anyone who to impose sanctions on,and when IMO.

They are trying to steer the chess pieces,again.

Just because the Israeli government says "jump" the rest of the world is supposed to ask "how high,and when?"

Who made them boss of the west?

man...cant we have a freaking week off from war or threats of war somewhere in the world? just a week. What is up with humans preoccupation with blowing each other up anyhow?

reply to post by belial259


Very much so Belial...

A not so well veiled unspoken threat for sure...

Is Israel wants to act unilaterally, which I doubt they will, it will find itself very much on the wrong side of most of the rest of the world...

Then again, that's never really bothered them I suppose, given their history of ignoring the UN & the rest of the world whilst making a big song and dance when other nations do the same...

Typical from such a hypocritical nation tho...

reply to post by Silcone Synapse


I think that Israel is saying that they don't want to be the ones to handle this growing problem but, if the rest fo the world keeps jogging in place, they will be left with no choice.

Remember, Iran is led by a man who thinks Israel shouldn't exist. He believes that they should be taken out of existence. These are threats against Israel. While Israel is no angel, they are merely stating that the threat of a nuclear Iran is, most definitely, a threat their existence and, while the West seems to agree that Iran should never go nuclear, since they aren't doing enough to stop them, Israel will be left with no other choice than to eliminate the threat.

Rest assured, if Israel does wind up destroying those nuclear sites, it will be done with the silent approval of any and all nations impacted by this decision. The public stance will be to condone Israel but the only way Israel will be able to accomplish the task will be with weapons from the US, approval to fly over some nations and agreement to not get involved in any retaliations from other nations.

They've been forced into this position in the past and it didn't lead to any global wars.

Personally, I think the US, Russia, France et al secretly want Israel to handle this matter. It is, easily, the cleanest solution. Israel will run precision strikes, taking out the facilities, and nothing else. Iran will cry foul but the nations she will turn to will be stuck wondering if it is worth siding with them, given the West's repeated attempts to curtail the nuclear problem and given Iran's repeated refusal to even work with the West in a resolution.

reply to post by smyleegrl


Yes - great all-out war in ME war is on its way, no question about that - that is my answer. First event of starting all out war against Syria-Lebanon-Iran was Lebanon attack 2006, then the blockade of Gaza by Israel, and following Op Cast Lead about year ago. After that horrible "Gaza 911" attack towards civilian population, and monitoring that slaughter to muslim homes - I have seen that there is no way turning back anymore.

Clear picture of enemy is placed to minds of Israeli enemies, by them self.

Question about when comes the revenge, is only about timing... With knowlege of today, and counting time from latest Gaza attacks - I think june, or july will be the start of WW3. Sure I knew after Gaza, when they made truce over there, that it takes minimum a year to start anything in the region - now that year has gone, and I am waiting new wars too... But one or two month seems to be too soon, but who knows?

Some false flag is waited - it doesnt need anything else.

Other question is that, if war between Iran and Israel is imminent, will Iran just sit as sitting duck in front of it... I think not, and that is the way Israel wants to provacate the situation every day.

Israel bombed Iraq's reactor and Syria's suspected nuclear site and absolutely nothing happened - aside from diplomatic outrage. How will Iran react though? That's a hard one to call. There's any number of possible scenarios if Israel does attack. Personally I'm temped to think that Iran won't retaliate directly, but that there will be large scale rocket attacks from their buddies on Israel's door step.....this in turn will lead to a massive assault from Israeli forces into neighboring territories. I think it will all get very ugly, without Iran actually being directly involved.

I wouldn't put it past Iran to act in a way that would provoke Israel to attack. An attack by Israel would unite their population, by giving them a common enemy.

What they would do with a united population is beyond me.

Iran has put a tremendous amount of resources into it's proxies like Hezbollah and Hamas as well as going so far as to try to pu in a nuclear facility in Syria.

And then there's all the uncalled for provocative rhetoric and accusations.

Iran is clear;y goading and compromising Israel hoping for a strong response. The game plan was for others t join in on a regional effort retaliatory effort against Israel.

Hamas has recently conceded they can no longer administer Gaza effectively and Hezbollah is in a similar funding situation according to the Middle East press in that Iran is expecting results for their sponsorship and supplies of missiles.

Iran's Revolutionary Guard is constantly training groups to fight and there's little question who the intended enemy is.

Though Iran likes to act coy, they've been preparing for an Israeli response for a long time. But they wanted it to be against their proxies and not them directly. They know in an outright war especially with the US interceding - they're toast. They have no real air force just for starters.

Iran will try to save face, look innocent and persecuted. Bu they never know if Israel will call their bluff in this war of nerves.

Iran will try to do something to further upset Israel but in the end they do no want to risk direct confrontation.

[edit on 9-3-2010 by mmiichael]

What the US should say is this. "Fine, bomb Iran, but then when they come after you, we'll be gone fishin'". You're all right, though. WWIII this summer. Gotta go gun shopping...

The only thing this article says is that if diplomacy doesn't work in 4-8 weeks, then Israel is going to start crippling sanctions. I don't get where you all think it says that they will possibly strike Iran.

I know it could very well happen in time, but I don't think it will be in 4-8 weeks..

Israel will not make war on Iran.

Israel, like North Korea, benefits from foreign military and financial aid in order to maintain foreign defensive interests in the region. Like North Korea, Israel performs a constant saber-rattling routine in order to artificially raise tensions in the region, causing the conflict to last for ever. It is not and never has been in their interests to escalate the conflict, only to prolong it.

Israel stands nothing to gain from war with Iran, and everything to gain from leading the world around by the short hairs. Like other 'rogue states' they are trying to hold the planet hostage with nuclear threats.

reply to post by mmiichael


Nice work repeating this drivel WORD FOR WORD in this thread

Very very lame

reply to post by JanusFIN


I think the Foreign Ministry of Israel acts seprately but in collousion with Netanyahu and his inner circle. The FM are the war-mongerers, the language they employ is used to intimidate Iran and impress the West into sanctioning the whole Iranian economy, becasue of the fear of an imminent attack. Then another department within the government will come in and clarify or contradict the claims to create confusion. It is a carefully staged show.

In reality i cannot see Israel launching a strike on the Iranian Nuclear facilites. They know it will not succed so do the Iranains and so do the Americans.

[edit on 9-3-2010 by Peruvianmonk]

Originally posted by Retrovertigo
reply to post by mmiichael

 

Nice work repeating this drivel WORD FOR WORD in this thread

Very very lame

I took the liberty of reposting my own message as I consider it relevant to two related threads I'm following.

Nice work in dismissing it while supplying zero actual analysis or refutation.

That's how arguments usually run around here.

[edit on 9-3-2010 by mmiichael]

Just a look to todays Israeli media - are they still in path to war?

Israel cannot abandon military option on Iran

Iran is the only country in the world that belongs to the United Nations yet publicly declares its intention to destroy the Jewish state. We are facing a lunatic, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, who repeatedly and publicly declares that the Holocaust never happened, and has now "discovered" that the September 11 attacks on the Twin Towers were perpetrated by the Americans to give them an excuse for the war on terror. This is a country whose leaders seek to turn all the moderate states in the Middle East into an unbroken stretch of Sharia extremism.

www.haaretz.com...

Report: New Iran destroyer test fires missile

The Islamic Republic, embroiled in an escalating row with the West over its nuclear program, often announces advances in its military capabilities and stages missile tests in an apparent bid to show its readiness to counterattack.

Neither Israel nor the United States have ruled out military action if diplomacy fails to resolve the dispute over atomic work the West fears is aimed at making bombs but which Tehran says is for peaceful power generation.

www.haaretz.com...

Biden assures Israel of security support

US Vice President Joe Biden assured Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu on Tuesday that Israel enjoyed Washington's unstinting support for its security and repeated US intent to curb Iran's nuclear program.

"There is no space between the United States and Israel when it comes to Israel's security," Biden said as the two leaders made statements to the media following talks in Jerusalem.

www.ynetnews.com...

Barak on Iran: We must keep finger on trigger

"We must trust ourselves first and foremost – with our feet on the ground and our eyes to the sky. One hand looks to make peace deals and the other hand with a finger close to the trigger, prepared to defend," the defense minister said Tuesday during a visit to the Kaduri Agricultural High School in the lower Galilee.

www.ynetnews.com...

Barak: "If forced into conflict... we would hold all of Lebanon responsible."

www.jpost.com...

Biden: US to prevent nuclear Iran

US Vice President Joe Biden expressed America's "absolute, total, unvarnished commitment to Israel' security" at a press conference in Jerusalem following a meeting with Prime Minster Binyamin Netanyahu Monday morning.

www.jpost.com...

There is no need for polls in here - US and Israel is staging for war - soon.

Notably Iran never makes public pronouncements about the Revolutionary Guard who now determine foreign policy and military activities. Mr A is just their spokesman.

When Israel went into Gaza last year there was a prime Iranian Revolutionary Guard squadron of 100. They were there to show how to fight a modern war. They got totally wiped out, every single one.

Still smarting over that, the Rev Guard are fuming. Even moreso about increased sanctions on gasoline. They foolishly invested heavily in out of country oil refineries selling gasoline back to the Iranian central government at a big markup. With increased strategic sanctions Iran would be completely vulnerable to attack. They'd have endless crude oil but nothing to run their equipment.

They've recently realized this and are climbing the walls now.

Iran has suffered from bad governance for a long time. Too bad for the Iranian people who are held hostage by corrupt and inept leadership.

[edit on 9-3-2010 by mmiichael]