Please read, this is very important "Joe Stack and John Bedell Connection"

The satellite is able to take images of earth, a selected number of video and audio broadcasts (the majority of it is news) routed to the satellite by communications on the ground up, to roughly 27 hours before it happens.

A lot of people seem to be mis-reading this part of the post so just posting it again. They can't see anything and everything with this thing people.

Originally posted by The Dispatcherator
A REAL cryptanalysis expert would never make this statement:

"It would take longer to crack an 8096 bit RSA encryption key, than my self-made encryption system"

8096 is not a power of 2.

512-8096 bit PGP based encryption, google it.

8096 For short term useage?

I believe it to either be a hoax or the numbers to mean something more significant.

I send my love anyways.

Namastè.

reply to post by Brent352


They can't see anything...cause it's not real. It's a post on GLP by a person who wants attention.

So all one has to do to get hundreds of posts is make an elaborate thread and tie oneself to current events, talk about anything dealing in 'seeing the future'(people love that stuff), claim authority as a "professor", start a thread through a proxy server, throw in some random tech speak, tell everyone that you will "post more later" and the ever popular "I could be killed by telling you this"....and POOF...you're off and running.....

This guy should be an Internet Marketer.

reply to post by Prove_It_NOW


Don't forget tying yourself to two recent "terrorists". This guy is either A) Very stupid. and has already gotten a vist or B) Still is probably BS and this guy is in jail or C) He is for real and will soon be six feet deep.

reply to post by DocEmrick


You are almost certainly correct but it is always possible its for real and its cheaper than a movie.

[edit on 6-3-2010 by Brent352]

Originally posted by Brent352
its cheaper than a movie.

[edit on 6-3-2010 by Brent352]

Touche Brent...Touche.

Originally posted by tgidkp
i used to work in the NSA's satellite communications earth terminal. secret clearance and all that. i assure you that ALL of the satellite transmissions are digitally encoded EM waveforms.

Ok, but what about the actual broadcasts? Is a pirate radio station in the Netherlands broadcasting digitally? I doubt it.

Those broadcasts from radio stations and tv networks that are EM signals need to be translated by a receiver in real time, I'm afraid.

Until someone can show us that that is not necessarily the case without getting into the "more secret tech they have" fallacy, I will stick with calling shenanigans on this story.

I can't believe how much attention this story is getting on ATS and GLP (8 pages here, 15 at GLP). It shows just how hopelessly pathetic the conspiracy theory community is, they couldn't find their way out of a paper bag.

This guy has ZERO evidence to back up any of his claims and it has been proven that Joseph Stack was having IRS problems and got into a big fight with his family the night before his act that resulted in his family staying in a hotel.

I post well thought out logical posts that tie together the alcubierre warp drive effect, extended heim theory, and the McCandlish ARV whose concepts, theories, and eyewitness accounts all mesh together perfectly in explaining how to create a craft propelled by warp drive and it gets 2 pages of comments at the most.

I feel like Mulder at a UFO convention, worse than Mulder actually, in the show he never even tried to guess or figure out how ufos were propelled (the disinfo agent Richard C. Doty probably had a hand in that as he consulted for the show).


The CIA disinformation agents must be laughing their asses off on this one. They don't even have to do their jobs (unless they were behind this story), the ufo/conspiracy theory community is ready, willing, and able to do their jobs of spreading disinformation for them. The community is more than willing to lap up that disinformation as well. The ufo/conspiracy theory community is hopeless.

reply to post by kdial1

I do not have time right at the moment to explain exactly how it works. Look up the twin paradox, Special theory of Relativity (not general) and the Lorrentz transformations. When the satellite reaches high speeds, in a sense it can "see" into the future--but only in the sense of EM waves--but its mass exists in the present which allows for government agencies a way to extract EM waves from the future.

Only the Present exists...

Past and Future exist in the Present...

So it is entirely possible to see, what we refer to as future and past...
It is just a matter of discovering how...

Perhaps this is already known ???


[edit on 6-3-2010 by The Matrix Traveller]

This is a fascinating idea but I wonder if the government did have a satellite that could see a day into the future if its even possibke change the outcome.? Is the timeline fixed?

As fantastic as this is it would explain many things...

Can anyone get me the powerball numbers for tonight?

Originally posted by DocEmrick
reply to post by Brent352

 

They can't see anything...cause it's not real. It's a post on GLP by a person who wants attention.

Oh he's going to get plenty of attention. The kind that requires diapers and therapy after theyre done with him.

A possible explanation................................

Lets assume the OP is working for an agency & is here trying to fool us.

Maybe they want us to believe that they can see 27hrs into the future which could then explain away the drills on 911 & the fire crew waiting for the plane to hit the IRS. We would then think that they managed to see into the future & were there prepared when in fact they cant see into the future & were there all along because they preplanned it in the 1st place & now they are trying to throw us off the trail.

A sort of double bluff.


Hope you guys get my drift here.

Ok, first off not to say I am a physics expert or anything but I know my fair share.

The theory of special relativity is talking about space/time being one and a fabric of space/ time that gravity distorts as well as describing the famous equation E=mc2 and the speed of light.

Ok so if you could possibly get a satellite to orbit as fast as it would have to, to 'time travel' it would take a lot of acceleration. It would spin around the Earth and would create itself a mass that is exponentially larger than it's original one. It would have to be far enough away where there would be no space junk/other satellites/space station /whatever.

In theory it could technically work to a point. But, there is a reason why the government hires the brightest minds. You would have to be much more advanced than science is at this point. You would have to understand general relativity much more than we do in the science community, because at this point in science we have a lot of anomalies that are unexplainable.

In theory it is possible, but improbable. I have heard this sort of thing being talked about in quantum books because those are much more complicated and unexplained than anything else in science. And in order to run these types of experiments you would have to have a good understanding of quantum. Which at this time nobody really does.

We are talking decades away if ever. Yes, theories exist but they are theories with no testable evidence.

So as someone with a knowledge of physics this is still in the realm of science fiction to me.

Pred...

P.S. Sorry if I am confusing I reads through 8 pages at 3 in the morning and am trying to explain complicated physics.

edited because i'm tired...

[edit on 6-3-2010 by predator0187]

Yup. I don't buy this John Bedell story one bit. Now they're saying that "marijuana abuse" had something to do with him going nuts. I'm sorry but I just can't take this seriously. Marijuana does not make you go out of control if anything it relaxes you. I guarantee you if this guy was smoking so much weed, he wouldn't even be doing anything! hahaha seriously, anyone out there who smokes weed knows that weed doesn't do anything but relax you and make all your worries and pain go away.

FBI: "I got it! We'll make him all things evil! Not just a 9/11 truther but also... a marijuana smoker!"

Average Not So Ignorant Joe: "Dude, are they kidding me? Ya it must have been the weed"

I feel bad for john, He obviously was not in the right mindset

Instead of going "One man army" Why not organize a protest

Or why not organize an army with weapons and overthrow those scumbags, unfortunately it wont happen

The united states has FAR too much power over it's citizens, We are mere sheep.

Originally posted by watcher73

Originally posted by antonia
reply to post by watcher73

 

The point being ATS does not hire or condone people openly posting BS to get a rise out of people. GLP does this CONSTANTLY.

This whole website is specifically for people to post BS to get a rise out of others. About the only facts ever posted here are the breaking news snippets pasted from other sites.

Oh please don't equate ATS with the steaming pile of crap called GLP please. Not that ATS couldn't be better, but don't compare it with GLP which is way down at the bottom.

[edit on 6-3-2010 by spacebot]

Originally posted by 11118

Originally posted by The Dispatcherator
A REAL cryptanalysis expert would never make this statement:

"It would take longer to crack an 8096 bit RSA encryption key, than my self-made encryption system"

8096 is not a power of 2.

512-8096 bit PGP based encryption, google it.

8096 For short term useage?

I believe it to either be a hoax or the numbers to mean something more significant.

I send my love anyways.

Namastè.

8096 flipped is 9608

It's obviously either just somebody trolling or a glp administration created screen play/hoax to get them traffic.

You saw the other thread with the exact same OP created 2 hours before right?
Well, the other "anonymous coward" claiming to be the new account and proxy used by the "TSG" just happened to respond to that thread as well, as the only responder, that time opposing "TSG" raising the BS flag. A couple of hours later he is acting as "TSG" in the second thread with the same OP which fortunally got a little more successful and even became some what of a hit in ATS as well.

Great trolling but nevertheless trolling.



[edit on 6-3-2010 by CuriousJudging]

I just don't see someone sitting down and dreaming up such and thing and putting in on the internet.. just to get attention.

I cannot speak to the technical aspect of what the guy said, but just seems very strange to me that he would take so much time to dream up a story like that. Could be there are some elements of truth to the story, and a lot of wild exaggeration thrown in for good measure.

Needless to say, I do not trust the government...and especially the NSA or the CIA. I am convinced that elements of one or both were at the root of the 9/11 thing.. if only with foreknowledge of the event..and willful failure to intervene.