Were Humans Created by Reptilians?

reply to post by TwoPhish


I think your quoting the wrong person, I am showing evidence for reptillian symbolism and the possibilty of A Reptillian species that may have come to Earth , not against it.

[edit on 1-3-2010 by Sparkey76]

reply to post by TwoPhish


Blood type negative is a mutation. Just that. A mutation. A variable gene that became locked in probably due to having some advantage.

DU Variants which are accidental miscoding happen quite often. The heritable variation is less common, but not unheard of.

reply to post by Aeons


your viewpoint, while satisfying medically, still doesn't address the artifacts and the texts of the ancient civs.

This area where RH negative supposedly came from and spread rapidly around....happens to overlap the area that Neanderthals inhabited.

reply to post by Blender
In the scientific community, theories are backed up by evidence.

reply to post by sum1one

Well, i would say you arent weird, but i probably am as well so it kind of cancels that out lol.. but i know what you mean, i dont know why exactly but its always made the most logical sense to me also.. i have never doubted multidimensions and as i got older started looking more and more into them..angels, demons, gods, aliens.. are interdimensional beings in my thoughts.. thats not saying i dont think certain beings come from various other stars and planets because i also believe those must have life forms of their own, perhaps dimensional travel is like a portal or shortcut of sorts for them.. ?

Originally posted by Blender

Originally posted by spy66
reply to post by Blender

 

Then you don't believe in scientific facts?

550 million years ago your relatives where Flatworms swimming in water. And their old relatives before them some 900 million years were choanoflagellates.

If you put science and religion together you get a great mystery with a few facts.

Of course I believe in scientific facts... That doesn't mean that I need to believe that we evolved from flatworms. Last I checked, evolution was just a "theory".

SCIENTIFIC THEORY:
(from wiki) "In the scientific or empirical tradition, the term "theory" is reserved for ideas which meet baseline requirements about the kinds of empirical observations made, the methods of classification used, and the consistency of the theory in its application among members of the class to which it pertains. These requirements vary across different scientific fields of knowledge, but in general theories are expected to be functional and parsimonious: i.e. a theory should be the simplest possible tool that can be used to effectively address the given class of phenomena. Such theories are constructed from elementary theorems that consist in empirical data about observable phenomena. A scientific theory is used as a plausible general principle or body of principles offered to explain a phenomenon."
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Do you believe in Einsteins theory of Relativity, the Big Bang or Plate Tectonics, Anatomy, Architecture, Geometry or Gravity? All theories.
And you don't need to believe we evolved from flatworms but accept we are related to the flatworm, like a cousin.
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COMMON DESCENT
rationalwiki.com...
[Common descent is the theory that all living organisms on Earth descended from a common ancestor. Biologists have evidence that all life developed from a common ancestor that lived just under 4 billion years ago, and the concept is accepted by virtually all scientists working in the field. The structures and functions of all living organisms are encoded in the same basic nucleic molecules, DNA and RNA. Similarities in amino acid sequences between various organisms also suggest common descent, and the fossil record also shows cases in which one plant or animal type evolved into different types over time. The details of this process are shown in clade diagrams.
Creationists reject common descent as it implies an evolutionary model. Young Earth creationists, as Biblical literalists, reject it outright, believing that life was created within a few days less than ten thousand years ago. Intelligent design proponents may accept some aspects of common descent, as long as they are allowed to claim that the "designer" mucked with the genes and mutations along the way, but usually just claim "we don't know" what happened.[1][2] C design proponents probably believe a muddled overlap of these positions. ] wiki re: common descent
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PSEUDOSCIENCE -wiki definition

* Alternative medicine
* Astrology
* Creation science
* Cryptozoology
* Homeopathy
* New Age
* Parapsychology
* Scientology
* Supernatural
* Ufology

Pseudoscience is any belief system or methodology which tries to gain legitimacy by wearing the trappings of science, but fails to abide by the rigorous methodology and standards of evidence that demarcate true science. Promoters of pseudoscience often adapt the vocabulary of science, describing conjectures as theories or laws, often providing evidence from observation, expert testimonials, or even developing what appear to be mathematical models of their ideas. However, in pseudoscience there is no real attempt to follow the scientific method, provide falsifiable predictions, develop double blind experiments, or publish in peer reviewed literature. Pseudoscience is designed to have the appearance of being scientific, but it lacks any of the substance of science.] entire quote from wiki


Note: Since ATS does attempt to follow scientific methods and peer review our topics are a solid step above Pseudoscience!

ow... and I think I just shot myself in the foot.

[edit on 1-3-2010 by rusethorcain]

This is a subject that I am interested in, but, before I can even entertain the possibility that mankind was the creation of a reptilian race, it must first be proven that a reptilian race exists. Without first proving this any questions regarding them are pretty much moot.

I am not saying the idea is complete rubbish. I am simply saying that if we are to discuss this seriously we need to bring serious scientific evidence, that the creatures exist, to the table here.

[edit on 1-3-2010 by aletheia]

When I first heard the whole reptilian thing from David Icke, I just thought he was a wack job. Strangely enough, I found his other work intriguing.
With regards to your post - In the Sumerian tablets (that have been classified as mythological) there are many references to the 'gods' being winged and reptilian like, and there is also reference to them having laboratories. It is said in the tablets that our DNA is a mixture of theirs and the homo erectus.. hence the missing link. In Michael Tellingers book called 'Slave species of god' he states that they manipulated our DNA to be workers, to mine gold. They needed it for their planet (possibly Planet X - Nibiru) as their atmosphere was damaged, and they had advanced technology of how to form gold into weightless particles that can be suspended into their planets atmosphere and protect it just as our ozone layer protects our planet. Anyway, Good work! Lots of info out there..

Of course. We spend a great deal of time on the first circuit, yes or no, hope or fear, fight or flight, basically the reptilian cord of our brain. So it does produce instances of biochemical creation that give birth to our digital identity. When we are lucid and at peace, we transcend this reptilian brain, this serpent creator. So, yes, the reptilians did create humans. But we surpass their creation when we give up angles, angels and demons, and we gain a holistic vision. Peace.

reply to post by TwoPhish


I guess you've seen these threads re:rh neg blood...

www.abovetopsecret.com...
www.abovetopsecret.com...

And sorry if either of these is a repeat link but I am getting interested in this topic...

www.free-press-release.com...

www.siriuslysirian.com...

Pretty incredible stuff this blood of yours...

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/597cc738e1aa.jpg[/atsimg]

This image is from another forum, more reptilian based...but I felt I must post it to show the truth as I see it.

Those who understand will feel great anger/shock from this picture, change that anger into the energy of intent. Intent to break free. Intent to awaken and lift this veil we are under. Dont allow this to go on anymore if you feel this is happening to you. No matter how hard you think it may be to break those energy ties they have hooked and binded into your chakras, it IS possible to break them.

reply to post by Mr Green


Simply brilliant. I love you. That illustration speaks volumes. Rather it communicates volumes. Peace.

Originally posted by Aeons
reply to post by TwoPhish

 

Blood type negative is a mutation. Just that. A mutation. A variable gene that became locked in probably due to having some advantage.

DU Variants which are accidental miscoding happen quite often. The heritable variation is less common, but not unheard of.

I'm not sure what you're saying but why is that you seem okay with this yet science is still mystified?

Originally posted by Sparkey76
reply to post by TwoPhish

 

I think your quoting the wrong person, I am showing evidence for reptillian symbolism and the possibilty of A Reptillian species that may have come to Earth , not against it.

[edit on 1-3-2010 by Sparkey76]

Yeah Sparky, I know you're on my side. I was just bolstering your point!
~Smile~

reply to post by TwoPhish


So? References to reptiles (which are present on every single continent apart from Antarctica) does not mean ANYTHING.

Reptiles being important is NOT a fact, even if you seem to think it is. It is merely your opinion - please refrain from confusing fact and opinion!

Science isn't mystified. It is still searching.

DU Variants that are heritable have just started being investigated over maybe the last ten years. A couple of large scale studies done on the blood of donors in Europe has shown how common miscoding for RH is in the European descent populace. About 2% of the population if I remember correctly.

Of that, they have yet to identify a sufficient pool of people that show a tendency of heritable DU Variance. Identifying some of them, and testing and waiting to see if it shows up again in the next several generations, and why is a study of GENERATIONS of people. Not a couple of years.

Identifying the original populace of variance is required first. And they aren't easy to find, because they are often misidentified in blood tests.

My paternal grandmother was a DU variant, and my sister is too. Making my father some sort of carrier even though he is not one.

See, not an easy thing to study in a difficult to identify variation that spans generations in a category that most often is a coding error in a small percentage of people and not heritable, making the heritable version probably well under .5% of the population.

Ok, reading through most of these replies to the OP has made me write in again.. one too many of comments such as 'i want proof' show me the facts' IF we actually HAD proof or science readily backing such theories as a Reptilian Race manipulating our genetics and controlling the worlds governments, religions and so forth.. if so, then we wouldnt be on such a forum as ATS brain storming on the matter! Have i missed something? isnt that what ATS is in fact here for? (my apologies of course if i am wrong on this).. debating, passing around theories, opinions, beliefs etc? to speak with somewhat like minded people on topics the MSM and general populace cant prove, dont tell us, or dont care to know about? If one wants hard solid proof of something, there are places and message boards for that too.. i just find it irritating that such a place as this is jammed full of closed minded nazi's that cant even take a moment to look into things.. (not all are like this of course, but many certainly seem to be) before dismissing the theories and possibilities put out there.. just because something seems 'outlandish' 'crazy' or 'unbelievable' doesnt make it wrong -and furthermore with that, if there is no proof, how exactly do you KNOW you are right about it? ... There is no hard facts or proof for Greys, nor is there for God or Jesus (no matter what anyone wishes to tell me, there is no proof) or any other belief systems figure heads that i can think of..its all based on groundless theory, faith, belief and ancient hints and clues passed throughout the ages- yet how many here believe in these beings? If we had proof, case would be closed, end of discussion, therefor no fun forum for us! Not everything can be proven, nor be embraced by scientific methods.

reply to post by Full_Vision


It's when people pass off their theories as fact that things take a turn for the worse. Which is what's happened in this thread, repeatedly.

Discussing reptilians is all fine and dandy, but when we don't have any facts, all we're doing is flapping our gums and getting nowhere. It's like discussing what Bigfoot wants for his next birthday - entertaining, I'm sure, and almost like science & book-learnin', but an exercise in the utmost futility.

reply to post by Full_Vision


Diolch and well said.

We can all come up with bits and pieces that can give a little circumstantial evidence towards the Theory.

I certainly can prove of a ruling bloodline that has been an elite in power all through the ages, its a very good source, so I doubt it is not true when you add all the other factors to it, it deserves a thread all on its own tbh.

nxt post I will show something that suggests what I just said, having some tea now.

Somehow we all need our areas of knowing our little bits to bring it all to the table.

[edit on 1-3-2010 by Sparkey76]

Originally posted by davesidious
reply to post by Full_Vision

 

It's when people pass off their theories as fact that things take a turn for the worse. Which is what's happened in this thread, repeatedly.

Discussing reptilians is all fine and dandy, but when we don't have any facts, all we're doing is flapping our gums and getting nowhere. It's like discussing what Bigfoot wants for his next birthday - entertaining, I'm sure, and almost like science & book-learnin', but an exercise in the utmost futility.

I agree that it isnt helpful or right to pass theories off as truths or facts, but its up to the individual what he takes from such a situation and what he casts aside. And if such a thought is used as 'we dont have any facts so all we are doing is flapping' then that doesnt leave much to discuss on ATS. at all. ever.