Journalist in Chile Earthquake: When the earthquake happened "the sky was changing colors..."

Thanks Lostinspace. Currently I'm most concerned of a married couple of friends that lost their appartment more than conspiracies.
Today I just found a copy of Bagavad-Gita today on my very bookshelf (my mom's, surely)and I haven't had enough concentration to start it... because of the quake and the rage that people who can't discern between a created quake and a real one creates on me... C'mon, it was Nazca plate trying to accommodate under South American plate... stop trying to see under the water.
This is a complete different scenario of Haiti's.
(yes, I do believe that certain quakes are fabricated. And certainly this was not)

What's interesting about Celia Lagos is that she used to work for the Swiss defense industry here is a segment from her own Linkedin page:


Press Officer
Macroswiss S.A. (Switzerland)
(Defense & Space industry)
August 2005 — March 2008 (2 years 8 months)
In charge of writing and sending press releases and building relationships with all the Defense and Technology media interested in the Macroswiss products. Responsible for getting the articles published in websites and journals as well as coordinating interviews with the designers and executives of the company. Work made from Chile.

What does a propaganda creator for the Swiss Defense & Space industry working from Chile have to do with this? How was it she was able to see the sky changing color at 3:30 a.m.? On her Linked page she also lists her career as of late in the following manner:

Founder / Oracle Interpreter
Jardín Interior / Inner Garden
(Fine Art industry)
January 2010 — Present (2 months)
Oracle reader and interpreter.
Cleansing of energy in places and people using holy smokes according to the instruction given by the Mexhica-Toltec tradition.
Tarot decks seller.

Is this some sort of red herring? I would waste time thinking of all the possible reasons she could have for making the claim she did. I think she somehow duped the media that is drenched in failures to check sources when the story is "hot," "breaking," etc. Maybe this was an intentional plant of some sort. The more you pick at a wound, the worse it gets...

Is it just me, or why i believe that much bigger earthquake is going to happen. There is so much aftershakes there right now.

Nazca Plate is moving to east, and goes beneath South American Plate, that should also make mountains higher there OR it causes more pressure between it and African Plate.

Think about what would happen, when 9M magnitude earthquake hits Canary Islands. That would make huge tsunamis that would reach east coast of USA ja western Europe. There haven't been strong earthquakes for ages, but it has potential. So pressure is growing there.

Look this link to see flood of aftershakes in South America.
earthquake.usgs.gov...

reply to post by NotAgain


Stating that something is BS is simply separating fact from fiction.

Anyone stating that CME's are causing earthquakes is spreading BS, and that is a fact; deal with it.

reply to post by drphilxr


If CME's caused earthquakes on Earth, then every earthquake cell would rupture when the CME's struck the Earth, and that is not the case. Earthquake cells last for days and weeks before they strike and they follow a specific cycle or pattern every time and CME's don't change the pattern of earthquake cells. Watch my videos on earthquake cycles.

www.youtube.com...

If CME's caused earthquakes then you would see an interuption in the earthquake cell cycles when CME's strike, and this is not the case; therefore CME's don't cause earthquakes and they don't interfere with regular earthquake cell cycles.

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I have a theory on why the sky changes colors during a major earthquake. It is caused by the change in the gravity field during such an event. The sky changing is a 'gravity wave' or some other strange phenomenon that is assoiciated when there is drastic change in gravity. Scientist have been looking for proof of gravity waves or something similar and I think studying the gravity field if possible durrng earthquakes is a great way for some insight to a little known phenomenon.

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So even anyone stating it could be a potability "A Theory" is speaking BS... nobody has said that the CME theory is certain, many have seen the patterns and like me put the potability of CME effecting magnetic fields out there. Me personally I think it's a mixture of both Solar Energy, Gravitation pull from the Moon and Gamma Rays/Gravity Waves from outside our Solar System. If you look it's not only Earth being affected, strange things are happening to other planets in our Solar System.

I have looked at your YouTune channel and to be honest it's quiet interesting and I would like to learn more, however it doesn't mean I accept it as the truth, it's still a theory. What I do know is it's wrong just to call out BS when there is still so much to learn, humanity knows very little about "Earthquakes" and the interaction between Earth the Solar System and beyond.



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Originally posted by SLaPPiE

It has to be related.
If the earth is generating an magnetic field (electric or not), then any external preturbance to the field with electrical charges or magnetic forces would tent to push or pull on our (earths) field, thas transfering force to the planet...although weak, I assume a CME could be much stronger than the moons pull on us for a short time. Push or pull quick and let go quick should have some, although minute effect.

A lot of people can't comprehend this fact, that changes in the magnetic field of Earth, or the Sun affects the Earth, and then again there is the fact that the Earth's own magnetic field is now weaker than it has been for hundreds of thousands of years...and then again we also know that the Solar System has been entering an area of the LIC (Local Interstellar Cloud) which is highly magnetised, and the entire Solar System is going deeper, and deeper into this strong magnetic cloud.

You don't have to be a rocket scientist to put two and two together....

I have been trying to impart this sort of knowledge to our members for years in this same website.

The bad thing is it is going to get worse before it gets any better.

We are going to continue to see an increase in the magmatic and seismic events around the world.

Oh, and one more thing, mankind really has nothing to do with this.

The Sun just experienced an event which was never witnessed at the magnitude that it occurred.

At least not since we started to monitor the Sun.

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You do need to learn a lot.

Sun-earth environment study to understand earthquake prediction
Mukherjee, S.
American Geophysical Union, Spring Meeting 2007, abstract #IN33A-01

Earthquake prediction is possible by looking into the location of active sunspots before it harbours energy towards earth. Earth is a restless planet the restlessness turns deadly occasionally. Of all natural hazards, earthquakes are the most feared. For centuries scientists working in seismically active regions have noted premonitory signals. Changes in thermosphere, Ionosphere, atmosphere and hydrosphere are noted before the changes in geosphere. The historical records talk of changes of the water level in wells, of strange weather, of ground-hugging fog, of unusual behaviour of animals (due to change in magnetic field of the earth) that seem to feel the approach of a major earthquake. With the advent of modern science and technology the understanding of these pre-earthquake signals has become stronger enough to develop a methodology of earthquake prediction. A correlation of earth directed coronal mass ejection (CME) from the active sunspots has been possible to develop as a precursor of the earthquake. Occasional local magnetic field and planetary indices (Kp values) changes in the lower atmosphere that is accompanied by the formation of haze and a reduction of moisture in the air. Large patches, often tens to hundreds of thousands of square kilometres in size, seen in night-time infrared satellite images where the land surface temperature seems to fluctuate rapidly. Perturbations in the ionosphere at 90 - 120 km altitude have been observed before the occurrence of earthquakes. These changes affect the transmission of radio waves and a radio black out has been observed due to CME. Another heliophysical parameter Electron flux (Eflux) has been monitored before the occurrence of the earthquakes. More than hundreds of case studies show that before the occurrence of the earthquakes the atmospheric temperature increases and suddenly drops before the occurrence of the earthquakes. These changes are being monitored by using Sun Observatory Heliospheric observatory (SOHO) satellite data. Whatever the manifestations in the environment of the atmosphere or geosphere may be, there is a positive correlation of CMEs with change in magnetic field followed by aurora borealis or sudden spark of light from the sky before an earthquake. Any change in geomorphology in the pixel level, changes in groundwater level, geochemical anomalies of soils surrounding active faults and vegetation anomalies should be monitored in the mirror image position of sunspots on the earth facing side in reference to CME from the sun.
Keywords: 2459 Planetary ionospheres (5435, 5729, 6026)

adsabs.harvard.edu...

I have posted in the past many different peer-reviewed research work from all over the world which have noted the same incidence as described in the above research paper.

It is not only CMEs, or any fluctuating change in the magnetic field of the Sun, or the Earth, but also large events that occur outside the Solar System affect the Solar System.

We have another thread in which it is explained that the Solar System has been entering an area of the LIC which is highly magnetised, and this affects the Sun, as well as the planets.

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But in many cases the Sky Changes 30mins or longer... before the Quake. Hence why I think it's gravity waves coming from outside Earth/The Solar System, maybe those same gravity waves also create CME and it's why we always see CME around the time of Quakes.

I'm only learning myself and I in no way claim to know the answers, I'm researching what I can even if it's something I disagree with. How can I learn something if I already think I understand it.

reply to post by NotAgain


I agree. This needs to be studied, when we see a massive CME at us or another planet we need better observations.

Still I think when we have an earthquake, especially one on such a big scale there is a disruption in the gravity field.

reply to post by jrod


I know what you mean, I suppose it's human instinct. We feel the changes within our energy field, emotional changes, headaches, dizziness, the feeling you are going to fall down and so on.....

I know there are many of you who are seeing these patterns, although you don't really know what to make of them. They just seem to click into place with no real explanation, Sometimes you probably think you are loosing your mind. Don't worry I share the feeling. You are not loosing your mind, you are just loosing interest in accepting anything you are told to be the truth.

Always Remember

"Even if you are a minority of one, the truth is still the truth"

Some one may school me on harp, but does harp have the ass one way or another to be a factor amoung other factors on plate shift?

It would seem that such conditions would have to be produced that humans would be aware, in the area in question, that the area was being hammered.

I mean if harp can shake the ground there would be evidence for days before like shaking cups, bodies of water with slight wave or vibration activity, ect ect. You know like the thing would start small and build up to a crescendo.

Not to mention its effects on electronic equipment. Anyone?

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Great posts.

What do you think about activity on the sun that has the result of pushing the moon out of its orbit even slightly or trying to. A struggle, so to say, would then take palce between the earth and moon thus plate shift and wacked out tides ect.

Think of what a large object, moving fast enough not to be pulled into earths orbit but large enough to disrupt as it went by. Sort of like two close and relativity stationary objects, earth and moon, in a pond and a fast moving boat comes between them at high speed.

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so, tectonic plates are sort of like glow sticks then...if you bend and/or shake them they turn blue

Hi,

Long time no see ATS.
I'kept on browsing here, without contributing for a while after getting very upset on some "geology" thread.

But here I am again, just to add my contribution to this interesting subject.

About Earthquake Lights, as have been seen in Sishuan just before the earthquake, two scientific publication were made.
And I insist on the world "SCIENTIFIC".

So here are the articles :

Earthquake lights and the stress-activation of positive hole charge carriers in rocks
Physics and Chemistry of the Earth, Parts A/B/C, Volume 31, Issues 4-9, 2006, Pages 305-312
France St-Laurent, John S. Derr, Friedemann T. Freund

Earthquake light: 1995 Kobe earthquake in Japan
Atmospheric Research, Volume 76, Issues 1-4, July-August 2005, Pages 438-444
Masashi Kamogawa, Hideho Ofuruton, Yoshi-Hiko Ohtsuki

Sorry, I can't provide links but you surely can find those articles or their abstract via google.

They are very interesting and may provide some info for a lot of people out there.

Hoping it'll be of some help.
Solenki, your fellow geologist, still working on his english





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reply to post by Solenki


Hey thanks for the contribution, I understood you fine. I will check out the links and get back to you.

Thanks

Abstract
Earthquake-related luminous phenomena (also known as earthquake lights) may arise from (1) the stress-activation of positive hole
(p-hole) charge carriers in igneous rocks and (2) the accumulation of high charge carrier concentrations at asperities in the crust where
the stress rates increase very rapidly as an earthquake approaches. It is proposed that, when a critical charge carrier concentration is
reached, the p-holes form a degenerated solid state plasma that can break out of the confined rock volume and propagate as a rapidly
expanding charge cloud. Upon reaching the surface the charge cloud causes dielectric breakdown at the air–rock interface, i.e. corona
discharges, accompanied by the emission of light and high frequency electromagnetic radiation.
Ó 2006 Elsevier Ltd. All rights reserved.

Interesting, here are the links

Link 1

Link 2



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This morning I some some film clips of the earthquake in Chile and in one of them there was a series of transformers blowing in and around the neighborhood.

These transformers caused the sky to light up quite dramatically and could have been what the reporter was actually seeing at the time.

I will try to find some links to the video, but I wanted to mention that there might be a much more mundane explaination to the sky lighting up.

I am not discounting some of the other theories mentioned in this thread, I just wanted to mention an alternative.

The lights occur around 22 seconds into the vid...I will keep looking for more examples.



In this one, the lights occur around 24 seconds into the vid...





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Possible, I have not seen a video of the lights yet so have nothing to compare it with. Still worth putting out though, nice one have a star

Just watched the video you posted, it does seem to fit the description of the lights the Chilean reporter saw. However this is what's normally seen before quakes.





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reply to post by NotAgain


Those lights are very pretty. If they are an indicator of an upcoming earthquake, it seems a bit of a shame.

To have something so beautiful be a precursor to something so tragic is a piece of irony I can do without...