Journalist in Chile Earthquake: When the earthquake happened "the sky was changing colors..."

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Hi CalibratedZeus,

The Moon definitely has a magnetic field and it must be fairly powerful or the Moon would have struck the Earth years ago. Its opposite magnetic field is what holds it away from the Earth, and to hold back that much mass their must be a significant magnetic field.

If the Moon has that much of a magnetic field, then CMEs would effect it the same as the Earth and seismic reports from the moon would make the correlation; which they have not.

The crust of the Earth slides over the mantle and the core is supposed to be solid.

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The moon has no global magnetic field. Various probes have demonstrated that it has small and weak fields scattered around its surface.


Magnetism has nothing to do with orbiting. The Moon is orbiting the Earth the same way an artificial satellite orbits the Earth and the Earth orbits the Sun. It is "falling" around the Earth.
www.britannica.com...

The inner core of the Earth is solid. The outer core is liquid. It is thought that convection of the outer core produces the Earth's magnetic field. The core of the moon may be liquid but it is too small to produce a global magnetic field.


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Thanks Phage,
That must be why all the UFO bases are the back side - more gravity there! Just kidding!
Now then, the 8.8 happened about the time of the perigian spring tide. It was very near to the full moon. Since you are good at info, what was happening with the tide at the time of the quake. I really think that there are triggers that can create quakes. Things that provide "the straw that breaks the camels back." Sometimes every thing looks like it should cause a quake and nothing happens - the pressure isn't that great at any point. Again a very small cause might push things over the edge. I think there are other indicators besides the moon and the tides. Animals seem to know when a quake is impending. Sometimes well levels change. If we were in Chile and asking, we could probably find a lot of antedotal material. If we collated that and then looked at the next likely EQ window (7/11) maybe we could pin point an area, unless its an offshore EQ.
If that happened, maybe the HAARP people would take their ball and go home.

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At the time of the earthquake in Chile the tide was falling. It was about 6 hours after predicted high tide and about 1.5 hours before low tide. The predicted high tide was about .75 meters above the mean. By comparison, the high tide the week before (neap tide) was about .25 meters above the mean. Not a great difference.

It would seem to make sense that since the Moon and Sun conspire to create high tides twice each month, the tidal forces would also influence earthquakes. But the actual tidal force exerted by the Moon (and Sun) is very weak. The tidal force of the Moon is about 0.00001% of the force of gravity on Earth's surface. The force contributed by the Sun during a full (and new) Moon is about half that (because of the great distance) and the difference between lunar apogee and perigee is about 15%. Another thing to consider is that the force is spread out over a pretty wide area. There wouldn't be much more force applied to one part of a fault or plate than any other in the general area.

While there is a chance that these very slight forces could trigger earthquakes it really is impossible to determine whether it does or not. There is just too much "noise" in the data. Too many full Moons without large earthquakes, too many large earthquakes without full Moons.

There is evidence though, that in areas which experience very large tides, there may be an influence. Not from the Moon, but from the weight of the water itself. The effect is very dependent on the location however and is probably not really useful for prediction.

www.absoluteastronomy.com...
www.sciencedaily.com...

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Yes everybody's day has been shortened. The entire Earth's rotation has been affected.

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Been looking through your YouTube videos, not watched them all yet but more than half way through. Very good research RussianScientist I was particularly interested in the Link areas, it made a lot of sense to me. You did a really good job presenting and sharing what you know, keep up the good work friend

We don't really get many Quakes in the UK so can't really go out there and see this for myself, have you seen any recent activity we should be aware of.

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It seems pretty interesting how there's been two high-level earthquakes in such a short span of time. Though I don't know the record of earthquakes over the years, it does seem as if high-level earthquakes are happening a lot more frequently now.

Maybe not a conspiracy or anything, but it's something to think about.

Well seems every time there is a Quake there is A) Solar Activity and/or b) Gamma Ray Activity.

This is from the 2nd Mar 10 Gamma-Ray Real Time

Burst Details
GRB ID GRB 20100302A
Missio Swift
Date 2010/03/02
Time 19:53:06 UTC

Coordinates
Right ascension 13:01:22
Declination 74:34:50
Galactic Lon. 122.04°
Galactic Lat. 42.53°
Constellation of Draco

Not sure what it all means, or weather there is any connection at all maybe somebody can enlighten me.

• Indonesian 9.3 Richter earthquake:
December 26, 2004 at 00 hours 58 minutes (Universal Time)

It is then with some alarm that we learn that just 44.6 hours later gamma ray telescopes orbiting the Earth picked up the arrival of the brightest gamma ray burst ever recorded!

• Gamma ray burst arrival:
December 27, 2004 at 21 hours 36 minutes (Universal Time)Source

Lights in sky 30 mins before China Earthquake







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Just wanted to get this out to as many quake threads as possible.

Taiwan was just hit by a 6.4 magnitude quake.

My company's HQ is in Taiwan, we just got a call from them.

Telephone land lines and power lines are periodically going out. It was quite a shake.

Our HQ office ceiling came off from the shake and injured one of our management personnel. He got sent to the hospital.

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Well seems every time there is a Quake there is A) Solar Activity and/or b) Gamma Ray Activity.

So, you think earthquakes cause a) solar activity and/or b) gamma ray bursts?

There are earthquakes all the time. There is solar activity all the time. There are gamma ray bursts all the time. There is no indication that any of them are related.

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No I think Gamma Rays "Trigger" earthquakes, But still there are many factors even down to reservoir built too close to the earthquake's geological fault line. e.g. Chinese geophysicists claim that the dam caused significant seismic changes before the earthquake in China.

Gamma Rays and Gravity waves

Astronomers have theorized that gamma ray bursts might travel in association with gravity wave bursts. The same events, such as a rapidly collapsed star, which cause the release of gamma rays also is thought to make a "ripple" in the time-space continuum that is manifested as a gravity wave

In this analogy, if space were a liquid, gamma rays would be energy traveling through the liquid whereas the gravity wave would be the waves of the liquid itself.

After a 45,000 year light-speed journey, a gamma ray burst arrival delay of 44.6 hours (as in the case of the December 2004 earthquake/gamma ray burst) would not be unexpected. It amounts to a delay of just one part in 9 million.Source

Check out the link there is just too many coincidences, just about every time there is a 6+ Magnitude quake there is a Gamma Ray burst., there is a long list of the events in the link.

I no way claim this is certain, only a possibility I am more than likely jumping to conclusions over the coincidences I have seen.

Edit: The link also shows the lights in the sky before the Chile Quake


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Strange Earth-Lights Preceded Chilean Earthquake?

Less than 24 hours after the premiere of the new National Geographic program Paranatural, which featured my colleagues and I from the L.E.M.U.R. team studying atmospheric phenomenon and Earth lights in Western North Carolina, news is beginning to surface regarding similar phenomenon said to have occurred just prior to the recent 8.8 earthquake that struck Chile.

One of the most credible reports of such phenomenon stems from a Chilean news reporter, Cecelia Lagos, who was interviewed by MSNBC and CNN networks. Lagos described “seeing the sky change colors outside her window as her house shook.” Lagos describes “I saw through my window, while I was still in bed, I saw the sky changing colors, it was absolutely surreal. I really thought it was the end of the world…I don’t know I hope you understand me because I’m not exaggerating really because I saw it through my window like that. That was the most terrifying thing seeing the sky changing colors with the terribly, amazingly, strong movement of the earth, I thought, ok…this is mother earth… the earth opened up and buildings crumbled into the earth …like in the movie 2012…”

Obvious comparisons have begun to be made to 2012 prophecies, especially with the apparent recent proclivity for earthquakes around the world at present. One observer in the Western United States (who prefers to remain anonymous) shared the following observations with the Gralien Report:

We (not necessarily you) are living right on the fault here, and a lot of us cannot sleep lately, at all. By ‘a lot’ I mean like 60% of the people I know around here, and by ‘lately’ I mean the past 45 days. There are a lot of other symptoms besides sleep loss. Here’s the basic problem however. The USGS maps have, for about the past 60 days, shown a shocking upsurge in activity to put it lightly. At least a 400% increase in earthquakes in general. Zero warnings from the USGS. There’s a lot to this story and it began prior to Haiti when I started telling people that the USGS maps showed that the ENTIRE PACIFIC PLATE was in motion and no one was paying attention! People utterly scoffed at me. Then we had a 4.0 in milpitas. Some days later, -while I was writing a craigslist post- asking people to prepare and explaining this situation, there was a 6.5 off the coast of Eureka. Then, short time later, Haiti 1.

Doctors in our area do not know what’s happening and are starting to seriously wonder, because -everyone- has been sick, mothers and children more than the men in general (children are more sensitive and women have -wombs- essentially a natural Earthquake detector). None of the people I know have connected their malaise to the plate activity, and usually when I suggest it they simply look sickly or yell at me. This isn’t going to work.

Meanwhile, scientists have discovered a new ‘deep tremor phenomenon’ which essentially indicates a likely 9.0 quake somewhere near puget sound in short order.

While it is wrong to stir panic unnecessarily, I consider it absurd to remain silent when something this obvious and this serious is clearly happening right now. There are probably other causal factors, maybe many, but this particular vector appears common, obvious, and largely unacknowledged – probably due to these factors.

Certainly, large amounts of geomagnetic activity could be a factor in sickness or other disorientation that might occur in conjunction with (or in this case, leading up to) earthquakes. Similar to the earlier reports of colored lights and strange phenomenon reported earlier in Chile, are any readers privy to information regarding similar illuminations or other activty occurring in the Western United States?

Special thanks to Reality Sandwich for the link to CNN transcripts.
gralienreport.com...

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I got the other post deleted becuase some ATS MOD said I drifted off topic.

So here is the News Video I made describing the POLE SHIFT of 2010

Yikes! Just how big was the magnitude 8.8 earthquake in Chile? One scientist says the shaking may have affected the entire planet by shifting Earth on its axis. This possibly may have shortened the length of each day on Earth by about 1.26 microseconds. Using a complex model JPL research scientist Richard Gross computed how Earth's rotation should have changed as a result of the Feb. 27, 2010 quake. If his figures are correct, the quake should have moved Earth's figure axis (the axis about which Earth's mass is balanced) by 2.7 milliarcseconds (about 8 centimeters, or 3 inches). Earth's figure axis is not the same as its north-south axis; they are offset by about 10 meters (about 33 feet). By comparison, Gross said the same model estimated the 2004 magnitude 9.1 Sumatran earthquake should have shortened the length of day by 6.8 microseconds and shifted Earth's axis by 2.32 milliarcseconds (about 7 centimeters, or 2.76 inches). Gross said that even though the Chilean earthquake is much smaller than the Sumatran quake, it is predicted to have changed the position of the figure axis by a bit more for two reasons. First, unlike the 2004 Sumatran earthquake, which was located near the equator, the 2010 Chilean earthquake was located in Earth's mid-latitudes, which makes it more effective in shifting Earth's figure axis. Second, the fault responsible for the 2010 Chiliean earthquake dips into Earth at a slightly steeper angle than does the fault responsible for the 2004 Sumatran earthquake. This makes the Chile fault more effective in moving Earth's mass vertically and hence more effective in shifting Earth's figure axis. Gross said the Chile predictions will likely change as data on the quake are further refined. Sources: NASA Universe Today

UFO fireball was seen over Hungary, Slovakia and Czech Republic same day as Chili's Earthquake ...

18 hours ago - UFO fireball was seen over Hungary, Slovakia and Czech Republic on 28 ... Around Midnight a huge burning fireball was seen by lot of people across over ...

Did a meteorite shower have any effect on Chili's Earthquake and could the Meteors also play a role in what witnesses claimed the saw when sky turned and changed colors?

Sunspots = Solar Flares = Magnetic Field Shift = Shifting Ocean and Jet Stream Currents = Extreme Global Changing Weather= Earthquakes= Volcanic Eruptions and Human Disruption aka Solor Max in 2012

The Puzzle Is Almost Complete - Science and Ancient Wisdom Unite


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Just as the Sun's solar activity affects the Earth's magnetic field which has a dramatic affect on Earth's weather i.e. earthquakes, floods, volcanoes, hurricanes; so does this wave of electrical currents affect the human body's magnetic field. Mitch also reveals a little-known development from modern medicine known as Transcranial Magnetic Stimulation (TMS). TMS provides empirical evidence of how magnetic fields can influence human emotions.

Solar Cycle 24 has begun - and it has been predicted by NASA, NOAA and ESA to be up to 50% stronger than its 'record breaking' predecessor Cycle 23 which produced the largest solar flare ever recorded. The Sun will reach its 'apex' (maximum) in late 2011 into 2012.

"I believe it will be the magnetic influence produced by the Sun which will usher in what is described by our ancient ancestors as "the transition" bringing us to a new state-of-being". (Mitch Battros)




Fireball Over Norway -- Signs of the Times News


Fireball over Hungary - Hungarian Translator Needed
7 hours ago - There is a report out of a fireball over Hungary and the report is in Hungarian. Haven't been able to find any English reports yet. ...
Indeed, there was a significant amount of sighting of that the phenomenon all-over Hungary.
According to the news, an extremely bright object, like a strange ball of fire flown trough the eastern part of the country.
The phenomenon, lite up the whole sky where it has passed trough and some of the spectators pointed out that even it's tail was visible.
The object considered to be a "Bolide".
There are some officially unconfirmed information regarding it's impact crater, situated in Slovakia:

noviny.joj.sk...
www.aktuality.sk...


Here are some videos, shot at Hungary yesterday:

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www.indavideo.hu...

www.indavideo.hu...

Fireball lights up sky north of Winnipeg
- 5:13am9 hours ago - A bluish green fireball flew over the bright sky in the East - and the Southern sky on Tuesday, at almost quarter past eight in the evening.

Fireball spotted over 9 Ireland 2-3-10


Fireball over Duluth!

A bright meteor blazes across the Bowl of the Big Dipper several years back. Photo: Bob King

Were you one of the lucky ones to see the brilliant, flaming object plunge over the region about 7:15 p.m. last night? People all the way from Cook County along Lake Sup

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Why are lights in the sky for a few earthquakes?
By Eduardo Arcos on 3/03/2010 @ 13:45



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In videos recorded during the earthquake in Chile (like the one accompanying this post) that occurred on February 27 has drawn attention for quite some lights (or flashes) that appear in the sky. The issue has sparked immediately all sorts of conspiracy theories about the origin or cause of the earthquake and its intensity. Seems to be popular, especially, blame the HAARP (High Frequency Active Auroral Research Program) of almost any natural phenomenon, without apparent reason or proof.




Nothing could be further from the truth. The lights in the sky or earthquake lights have been reported throughout history, in fact no record of such observations in ancient writings of Greece dating from the year 373 BC, although for much of the twentieth century considered a myth, in the 60 photographs were taken of this phenomenon during an earthquake in Japan.



Then the lights were observed on video during the earthquake in Peru on 15 August 2007 that had an intensity of 8 degrees on the Richter scale. But according to the USGS the most comprehensive modern study of light occurred in the seismic tremors in Saguenay, Quebec in 1988 and 1989, where at least 46 reports have been well documented before the big earthquake that happened two months later.


The problem (and what triggers many conspiracy theories) is that there is still no satisfying explanation to investigators. The unconvincing include:

* The friction on the fault turns heated gases or particles in the sky. But the quantities of gas are minimal.
* Radon gas is released by fracturing of mineral grains that ionize the air. The problem is that gas is not enough.
* Minerals that respond to light or mechanical stress generates an electrical charge. Nor is light enough to fire.
* Quartz crystals generate voltage, but the resulting electrical currents are canceled on the rocks.
* Fluid moving in narrow fractures that tend to generate electric charge, the problem is that the resulting energy is very weak.

But a new theory made more acceptable by Friedemann Freund, a physicist geologist, who is very well explained by Andrew Alden (translation by Miguel Vera) which is related to electron holes:

While the rocks are insulators, has been shown in laboratory experiments that they are good conductors of electricity on its surface. This phenomenon was discovered by physicist Friedemann Freund mineralogist. He realized that the mineral grains in rocks are full of imperfections, as they have oxygen atoms in an imperfect ionized, forming the so-called p-holes, which carry a burden similar to that of an electron, but opposite (positive) .


In laboratory tests it was found that in rocks outdoors-p holes tend to move and look at their surface, generating conductivity. In the presence of an effort, the holes-p is activated and can move through some types of rocks (igneous and metamorphic rocks).


During an earthquake can be released into the crust a cloud of p-holes due to seismic effort, which rise through the rocks and appear rising from the earth as solid-state plasma, whose effects include earthquake lights, infrared emissions detected from space, radio waves, noise, disturbances in the upper atmosphere, and even bizarre behavior of animals and even human premonitions.

Eventually the earthquake lights are a fascinating phenomenon and sometimes spectacular as the lightning, just your home still has challenges and a way to determine its true origin. It is irresponsible not to apply empirical reasoning and try to explain through silly conspiracy theories and baseless.


Yes, it is clear that there is a technical relationship / scientifico-ray of transport connections and earthquakes.

Yes, it is clear that there are only (?) A girl "journalist" report of Chile on this phenomena, which may be a pa

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What is clear is that the "changing colors" were the result of exploding electrical transformers and shorting power lines. As ATS members who were there have pointed out.

Its important to clear out in ATS too that the colors on the sky seen during the quake were basically the streetlights going down when the power got off and reflected on the misty night on that day

www.abovetopsecret.com...

yup, the images of the "lights" are just street lights jumping and transformers collapsing. I've watched the images on TV some hours ago. There wasn't any weird northern light alike in the sky, not in Santiago, neither in Maule/Bio Bio.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

It can be seen in this video Chile



The solar and magnetosphere activity levels were very low when the earthquake occurred. Scientists predict that solar cycle 24 will peak in May of 2013 and be of lower than average intensity.

May 8, 2009 -- Solar Cycle 24 Prediction Update The Solar Cycle 24 Prediction Panel has reached a consensus decision on the prediction of the next solar cycle (Cycle 24). First, the panel has agreed that solar minimum occurred in December, 2008. This still qualifies as a prediction since the smoothed sunspot number is only valid through September, 2008. The panel has decided that the next solar cycle will be below average in intensity, with a maximum sunspot number of 90. Given the predicted date of solar minimum and the predicted maximum intensity, solar maximum is now expected to occur in May, 2013. Note, this is a consensus opinion, not a unanimous decision. A supermajority of the panel did agree to this prediction.

www.swpc.noaa.gov...

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We are speaking of these lights.






I know there was another video clearly showing the transformers blowing, but it's entirely different to the lights above.

As for Solar Activity I agree, it has been very low so after much research I kind of rule Solar Activity out. I still think this has something to do with Gamma Rays/Gravity Waves thought.

reply to post by NotAgain

No.
Another thread is talking about those "lights" (which are actually clouds).

The topic of this thread, and the poster I was replying to, is talking about

Journalist in Chile Earthquake: When the earthquake happened "the sky was changing colors..."

Originally posted by Phage
reply to post by NotAgain

 

No.
Another thread is talking about those "lights" (which are actually clouds).

The topic of this thread, and the poster I was replying to, is talking about

Journalist in Chile Earthquake: When the earthquake happened "the sky was changing colors..."

Keep in mind, when the sky was changing colors, it was roughly 3am. I doubt that clouds are going to give the illusion of an array of changing colors while it is Black as night outside.

I think the journalist described exactly what they saw and they were not under an "illusion" of clouds creating some sort of an optical effect, so to speak.

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