Plane crashes into Austin building

reply to post by dashen


and i m quite versed in american history and the comparisons drawn by some are nothing short of a f u to our four fathers. did ben franklin tie a bomb to himself and go to the local general store and blow it up klling local citizens like himself i think not. no he petitioned fought politically used his brain and as an absolute last resort conceded to war. these comparisons are so insulting i think you would be quickly shastized and hung out to dry by any of the real patriots that founded our country.

Originally posted by blujay
So here I am at work, frantically trying to keep up....

Can someone let me know where to find the manifesto? Forgive my ignorance ~ I am trying to deny it.

Here is a link to the Manifesto. At the bottom you can also go to a printable version.

Update: Austin suicide pilot planted bomb in car at airport, federal officials tell NBC; bomb squad trying to defuse it

Originally posted by mecheng
reply to post by star135I

 

Please don't start with the mindless number/symbology crap.

How the hell do you get 2/18 = 11?!?
You mean 0.11111111

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I swear there are a lot of mindless idiots on here always trying to make something up with numbers or symbolism even before there are enough REAL facts and evidence to prove it was a false flag...So sad

reply to post by Nola213


I found the link for it in case someone here wanted it. It's free software.

youtubedownload.altervista.org...

reply to post by triplescorpio


Hey bub,
You said, GW would never fire on innocent civilians. I gave you a glaring example of when he did in fact do that, and you try to trash me. Well you know what, pull your head out of your posterior, and stick it in the sand, where its safe.

I would not be surprised at all if there's a team of paid internet propagandists at the NSA or Homeland Security departments riling up support for this "homegrown terrorist".

Pretty soon mentioning the Constitution, Ron Paul or the Fed will get you on a list somewhere. This reeks of False Flag set-up...

A couple years back there was a tv show with a hypnotist on every week, whom could call people with trigger phrases and then they'd do something really weird like jump in a pool with all their clothes on.
Maybe the government has perfected such techniques and with a simple phone call can trigger people into pre-programmed actions.

In any case, I urge anyone to think twice before getting carried away with applauding this guys' actions. Suicide while risking innocent people's lives is just about the most cowardly way to act, and I find it hard to believe that someone who wrote that manifesto actually consciously did that.

Originally posted by Conspiracy Pianist
I would not be surprised at all if there's a team of paid internet propagandists at the NSA or Homeland Security departments riling up support for this "homegrown terrorist".

Pretty soon mentioning the Constitution, Ron Paul or the Fed will get you on a list somewhere. This reeks of False Flag set-up...

GOTTCHA!!!

Originally posted by Aeons
That the people were inconsequential speaks to him being a sociopath.

That he has apparently functioned well, speaks to him being a pretty charming sociopath.

People don't matter. Keep that in mind. That is the DEFINITION of cold blooded.

No, cold blooded murderer means DELIBERATELY cruel or callous. Deliberate means intent. If his intent was to kill, with no emotion involved, he would be a cold blooded killer. We already know emotion was involved. It is pretty obvious he was emotional, just read the note. Delusional, maybe.. but cold blooded, not a chance.

He didn't care about what happened to anyone else, that just makes him psychotic. Having a psychotic break is much different than going out and mass murdering in cold blood.

You are suggesting he got where he did by being a charming sociopath? Doubtful. More like a self serving screw up who thought he could play the system, but kept failing. Eventually he got old, failed again, and realized he DIDN'T have any more time to give it another go, and just snapped.

Delusional paranoia, psychotic break, whatever you want to call it, killing innocent people was far from his thoughts. His thoughts were all about him, how HE had been screwed, how the IRS came after HIM, how HE was the one the rich had been conspiring against. Everything indicates that it was all about him, his bitterness, and his revenge toward the establishment.



You can go own with your own misconceptions about how he wanted to commit murder and was a cold-blooded killer, for whatever reasons you may have. You'll find that through some objective reading of what he wrote, and some understanding of such, that you are wrong. What happened to everyone else was irrelevant to him, everything from his letters to his actions was all about him.

Originally posted by ROBL240
Update: Austin suicide pilot planted bomb in car at airport, federal officials tell NBC; bomb squad trying to defuse it

Airport on lockdown due to possible bomb in suspect's car

This guy was trying to take everyone out with him....I suppose misery loves company

reply to post by jam321

How many people actually vote? How many people actually research who they are voting for? How many people continue to reelect the same old people knowing that the same old people are part of the problem? How many people have become dependent on government? How many people think only of themselves or their area rather than the country as a whole?

Vote?
Both parties are owned and 'controlled' by NWO folk. Diebold voting machines proven to 'rig' votes in past elections, though no court case ever allowed a 'discovery' session.

Research candidates?
Always ends the same way; Insiders to international banksters and the illuminati.

Dependent on govt.?
That was the design of the 'authorities'. The more people on 'welfare' the less resistance to the tyranny behind it and the more dependent on the 'system', the 'subjects' are, as per design (less resistance). Same issue with illegal immigration of which was designed to aid in bankrupting the country with free govt. (taxpayer) subsistance and dependencies and further disrupt the 'fabric' of the nation with disregard to laws enacted to provide 'legal' immigration.

The only purpose of a 'federal govt.' is for defense of the nation. The Pentagon officials and Supreme Court members are Not elected, by the people. This should be of 'concern'. If a 'system' is 'open' to corruption, their Will be those to corrupt it, to their own 'eventual' demise. The States and/or local 'communities' were 'designed' to do the rest, locally, as per intended. It's more efficient, effective and accountable. This is 'common sense'. "Keep it simple stupid" was coined for a purpose.....just like 'this'.


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reply to post by Aggie Man


Thank you !!

Now I will get caught up with this scenario.

reply to post by grimreaper797


I should reword a bit for clarification. With a cold blooded murderer, he is killing them without any emotional cause or remorse. With a psychotic break, he kills as a result of excessive emotional stress and a desire for emotional payback.

The cold blooded murderer hardly feels anything negative or positive about it. It's just an act like drinking a cup of coffee in the morning. This guy was very emotional about it. But his emotions was not directed toward any specific person, just an entity. His attack was aimed at the IRS, not any specific person or people. Throughout his note he never indicated that the people working for the IRS were to blame. He constantly pointed at corporate executives, and establishments.

reply to post by hotbakedtater


Whoa.....


I just watched the video you posted with the eyewitness speaking about a fire engine "just happened" to be sitting across the street, doing something.

That is pretty strange.....

Update: Austin suicide pilot planted bomb in car at airport, federal officials tell NBC

Oh ok, are we supposed to go by word of the federal officials and NBC?

I'm not saying it's impossible, but it sure paints a nice convenient picture now doesn't it?

Originally posted by Conspiracy Pianist

Update: Austin suicide pilot planted bomb in car at airport, federal officials tell NBC

Oh ok, are we supposed to go by word of the federal officials and NBC?

I'm not saying it's impossible, but it sure paints a nice convenient picture now doesn't it?

No report at all on NBC site. However Breaking News just reported there were no explosives, no bomb and no details were given. A bomb squad found nothing.

reply to post by Perseus Apex

The only purpose of a 'federal govt.' is for defense of the nation. The States and/or local 'communities' were 'designed' to do the rest, locally, as per intended.

We both know we will never see a government as the one you describe above.

Dependent on govt.? That was the design of the 'authorities'. The more people on 'welfare' the less resistance to the tyranny behind it and the more dependent on the 'system', the 'subjects' are, as per design.

The plan works only if the people allow themselves to become dependent. Unfortunately, mission accomplished.

Vote? Both parties are owned and 'controlled' by NWO folk. Diabold voting machines proven to 'rig' votes in past elections, though no court case ever allowed a 'discovery' session.

Lawsuits aside, how many Americans has put aside their computers, TVs and other entertainment tools in order to make this an issue?

IMO, people like these machines because it is less time consuming. Allows them to get back to their entertainment a lot quicker.

So I'm hearing from my family (who live down the stree from there) and now in the thread that the guy burned down his own house, then went flying.... wonder if his house was forclosed of soon to be...

terrorist.... not likely

most likely a fellow hard working American that lost his job and soon to be everything else, and wanted to send a message to the government the good old revolutionary way...

just an oppinion... now I'll read the rest of the thread....

People should hurry to do research on the guy before his life gets altered by TPTB

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reply to post by NovusOrdoMundi

It is a sad day when innocents are killed, this is true. But we are at a point where we must do something to remain a free country and if that means people die for the greater good then that is what needs to happen. That is all war is, people dying for the greater good. And to the posters that talk about peaceful change and voting for change. It has been shown time and time again that voting does not work. Thanks to the Electoral College. And I have sent many letters to the government expressing concern over laws or other issues. You know what always happens; I get a nice form letter from some intern. The government as a whole no longer cares. No I don’t think I would say this guy is a patriot. But if his actions can bring about a change and more people waking up and seeing the way things truly are. And seeing someone do something about it maybe more will stand up. Not saying to this extreme but at least some form of action, is better than no action and just complaining about it.

reply to post by crashbehr


You are a disturbed individual. Never is there a reason to kill innocent people to further a cause. If that is what you feel you are limited to, then it is obvious that you cannot use the intelligence that you do have for anything constructive.