Looking for people who have been to the grey room

reply to post by Waiting2


Hi there, waiting.

First, a couple of things about your reply to my post. This sensation of movement downward, once I became aware that I was in the bubble is one of the most striking memories I have of the experience. It was not at all unpleasant, and seemed to have a purpose.

The person I met years later seemed to recognize me right away. I felt as if I knew them as well, but neither of us could put our "finger on it" until several months later when we finally had a conversation about near death experiences. She had had one too, and her journey was more like a vision quest or especially vivid day dream. She had a real sense of having been there, but she also knew that she was literally, physically in a certain place both before and after her experience, so the whole thing was a lot more like a memory of a vision, if that makes any sense. The catalyst for her journey to the bubble was highly negative, in fact -- she was planning her own death. The overall experience was positive. It forced her to reach out to someone and that someone made it ok for her to leave a bad situation she had felt "trapped in" up until that point. So overall -- net positive.

Like you, I'd love to know what happened to everyone else that went to the bubble. I believe that the bubble exists outside of normal space time, so the people who went may have gone at different times, on different days, in different years even, and were still there "together" (if that makes any sense at all). I have nothing to base this idea on, frankly, but I have always been a writer, so it's easy for me to make cognitive leaps, as I can chalk them up to inspired fiction or poetry that can be subjectively "true" without having to be "objectively" true. This doesn't mean that I don't believe this stuff happened / is happening, it just means that I realize that it doesn't matter if it is.

I tell you one thing: Ever since the incident I have struggled with playing the punching bag. I have gone out of my way to do "the right thing" in situations where there was clearly no point in doing so. This has caused a lot of trouble for me, and its something I might change (honestly) if it wasn't so compelling for me to be the way I am. It doesn't mean I am perfect, or that I don't make mistakes. I make a ton of mistakes, especially ones involving common sense. The truth is I tend to see connections between people and events that prevent me from pursuing my own self interest, even when I think I should. It doesn't make sense to me that such an experience would force me to "take the high road" if there wasn't a purpose in me doing so.

Last bit (for now anyway).

I am fascinated by the concept of the river, in this thread.

I too have a personal "river" that I have incorporated into my life / writing / mythology through stories and poems I have written. It's a powerful metaphor for my life and I return to it, again and again. I never associated it with the bubble, but I started using it right after my experience, so it makes sense that there *might* be some connection.

For the sake of completeness I will tell you that, for me, the river represents a boundary, and that I have -- in stories and poems -- crossed it, and described what I "found" on the other side. Frankly -- it would take ten thousand words or more to describe all of it here, so I will just relate a tiny part.

If you think of the river as archetypal, then you can visualize what lies beyond in the same way. First -- you have to cross it, and for me, that requires meeting a guardian who wields my favorite weapons against me. When I meet the guardian, I meet it with open hands. It makes getting to the other side a breeze.

Beyond the river is a valley between two high cliffs, and it is guarded by (what I like to call) "the Grand Assembly". I am met there and judged worthy to continue onward by the essence of every animal I have ever loved, enjoyed or neglected. Fortunately, there is always one or two who will vouch for me. The idea that something has to vouch for me in order to continue on, after crossing "the river" possesses meaning for me, and makes me feel a real sense of joy.

After reading this thread, I believe that there are two rivers. One is as described here: A place where the sum of human experience flows and can be accessed, and two -- a place for "the remains", which must be crossed. It is also possible that these are both the same river, seen from two opposing perspectives.

Again -- I make no claims as to the "truth" of any of this. My experience in the bubble was life altering, but seemed real enough. In fact it was hyper-real. The stuff that came after was my creative struggle to both "make sense of it", and my desire to "do my purpose", through writing, singing, and so forth.

It is my belief that these additional aspects serve a purpose to the overall experience, and that they are in fact, my way of "remembering" something I saw, heard, or experienced when I was in the bubble the night of my 21st birthday.

Great thread BTW.

[edit on 20-7-2010 by 0zzymand0s]

[edit on 20-7-2010 by 0zzymand0s]

Originally posted by 0zzymand0s
reply to post by Waiting2

 

I tell you one thing: Ever since the incident I have struggled with playing the punching bag. I have gone out of my way to do "the right thing" in situations where there was clearly no point in doing so. This has caused a lot of trouble for me, and its something I might change (honestly) if it wasn't so compelling for me to be the way I am. It doesn't mean I am perfect, or that I don't make mistakes. I make a ton of mistakes, especially ones involving common sense. The truth is I tend to see connections between people and events that prevent me from pursuing my own self interest, even when I think I should. It doesn't make sense to me that such an experience would force me to "take the high road" if there wasn't a purpose in me doing so.

I agree with you that the sense of movement was important somehow. It seemed normal yet abnormal at the same time. I should have been shocked but I wasn't. It was actually quite comfortable.

I also met another person who said she'd been to the grey room. However, I'm honestly not sure whether or not I believe her. (She was an actress.) She couldn't give me any more details than what I'd said. Even NotThat provided additional details.

I've found when I talk to people who have had similar experiences, we may use different vocabulary but the essense of truth is the same. Sometimes a tiny comment by one person will even unlock something in me so that a concept about the event is clarified. An "Ah ha!" moment. It's like we need each other to connect the pieces. This really is a big puzzle. I've been looking for others because I think we know things that can help each other solve our own questions.

What you're sensing, that feeling in you that somehow this grey room and our experience sounds familiar, is the experience I have when talking to someone who has had similar experiences. It's like I somehow get past the words and get to the feeling and the feeling is what I connect with. If I concentrated on just the terms it doesn't work because all of us use different words. It truly is difficult to describe what happened to us and it has taken us years to come up with terminology that somehow fits.

My experience was also positive. I was not harmed in any way. I went willingly. But, it ended differently than I expected it would.

I know about dreaming while awake, about vivid visions. I have done that. I know exactly what you meant when you mentioned about the woman you met and her experiences.

However, when I went to the grey room I was wide awake. I was physically in my living room before I went to they grey room and I was physically in my living room afterwards.

I understand what you mean about people meeting in different times in your room. That makes sense.

In the room I was in, we were all wearing clothes of the time period. I believe we were contacted and all came at once in the same time. We'd all received the same messages as we all had backpacks, small bags with us.

Yes, yes, yes! I don't know why, but NotThat and I also have an urgent need to "take the high road" even when it is more difficult. It's like a compulsion. I'm not perfect either, but I try my hardest not to lie, not to have things in my house that are not mine, etc. Still years later, I try to live an uncluttered life. Even now, possessions are not important to me.

Like you, the code of ethics (not lying, etc) by which I live make me stand out from those around me. I don't know why this need to be good is a byproduct of my experience. I don't know why I have to do this, but like you, I do it. Trying to be a better person is not a bad thing, but it does make things interesting at times.

Originally posted by 0zzymand0s

I am fascinated by the concept of the river, in this thread.

Again -- I make no claims as to the "truth" of any of this. My experience in the bubble was life altering, but seemed real enough. In fact it was hyper-real. The stuff that came after was my creative struggle to both "make sense of it", and my desire to "do my purpose", through writing, singing, and so forth.

It is my belief that these additional aspects serve a purpose to the overall experience, and that they are in fact, my way of "remembering" something I saw, heard, or experienced when I was in the bubble the night of my 21st birthday.

Great thread BTW.

The river you describe is quite different than the river I experienced. However, another poster talked about a river similar to yours. I believe your river is a real place.

I do not know if our rivers are the same. I did not pass any borders. Suddenly I was just there. My own river was not visual at all. It was completely grey. I couldn't see myself or anything around me and yet I felt completely safe. I was not alone. I was myself and yet a part of everything around me.

The river I experienced was separate from the grey room, but I believe they are somehow connected. I think the river part is the part that compells me to be honest, good, etc. Because I am me and also a part of everyone else, being my best self (not lying, etc) makes me (and everything) more complete.

So yeah, I think your river probably compells you to be better, too.

Do you know the parable about the blind men and the elephant? Each blind man described a different part of the elephant according to his own experiences. This entire experience is like that. We're all blind men seeing our own little parts and have no language to describe what we are "seeing". Unfortunately, it's difficult to find other blind men to piece together all of this!

Yes, the experience was "hyper-real." I'd agree with that.

Thanks for the compliments on the thread. Every time I think it'll die it somehow rejuvinates again. That's fine with me. We keep finding others who have small bits of the same experience.

[edit on 20-7-2010 by Waiting2]

Any of you grey room people have any 11|11 wierdness going on, and if so, could it be related to those of us who have the same wierdness manifesting although we have not been to the grey room? Are we kindred forces being called for the same mission during the next couple of years or what? I wish I knew what this was all about. They say we'll know what our purpose is when the time comes. And the time is near. But the waiting to find out is very frustrating.

Have You Been Called By The 11|11, And What Are You Going To Do About It?
www.abovetopsecret.com...

[edit on 8/13/2010 by this_is_who_we_are]

Let me see.
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Nope, no grey room over here.
Besides, grey is kinda dull, don't you think.
I hope one would use more inspirational colors?^
But if someone learned something in a room regardless of color, I suppose it's worth the trip.

Looking for a neon blue n'green ship, (with a bright yellow refractive gold search light) operating via electromagetism. I was somewhat awakened after those mom-e+nts in Belize and Cancun, Mexico over 3 years ago. It's there for the picking.

That was a 'trip'.
Unfortunately, no recall.
Only the deliver.
No need to rehash.

Regardless, when one seeks the higher self they reap the higher self. When reap what we sow?
As the butterfly to the Effect.
To sow love and understanding is cosmic in origin.
To reap it's reward; divine.
It makes sense because it Is.

Or is not.
Ur-choice.


[edit on 13-8-2010 by Perseus Apex]

reply to post by Waiting2


What a great thread !!! I finished reading it earlier on and wanted to comment.

You and your mom had the courage to stand up and speak out, it is highly honorable !

There are many of us. Isn't it a magnificent feeling to know that we are not alone?

It you've noticed, more and more are coming out. Around the globe.

Silence is no longer a virtue.

Be well.

Please consider the phrase"the truth will set you free",I as well have been overcome by a need to be as truthful as I humanly can be,and some close family members have experienced this as well,I feel like we are picking teams in a junior high school gym class.

Its almost like we are clearing our emotional throats before we make our statements.

It isnt a painfull process at all,although it does seem to to be that a lot of people do notice it happening.

Coming clean,lightening the emotional load,call it what you choose,but it sure is occuring.

And spontaneously.No conscious choice,no decision to be reborn or repent or anything so dramatic---in fact strangly no religous context,no greater power context,simply a change in focus and direction needing no external drive or prodding.

Like Mom and Dad are almost home from a night out and we are furiously trying to clean up the house after our free for all while they were away.No one is telling us to do it ,we just know we need to get it done before they get here.

reply to post by this_is_who_we_are


Thanks for responding to the thread! Sometimes I experience the 11/11 thing, but not enough to make it consistant. For a while there I was waking up around the same time every night (3:30). Thankfully, that has stopped.

I do know that we all have internal clocks. Perhaps people experiencing 11/11 are hyper-aware of their internal clocks? I do find it interesting that so many people are experiencing that so I think something else is going on. I wish more people had experienced the grey room so I could get some answers!

Originally posted by Perseus Apex
That was a 'trip'.
Unfortunately, no recall.
Only the deliver.
No need to rehash.

Regardless, when one seeks the higher self they reap the higher self. When reap what we sow?
As the butterfly to the Effect.
To sow love and understanding is cosmic in origin.
To reap it's reward; divine.
It makes sense because it Is.

Or is not.
Ur-choice.


[edit on 13-8-2010 by Perseus Apex]

It's a shame you only remember the outside. I'd be curious to hear what you saw on the inside. I never saw the outside so I have no idea if I was even on a ship or in another place. However, my feeling at the time was that I was on a ship.

As for my experience, it doesn't "make sense because it is." That's not enough for me. I expected way more instructions/answers/clarification. I jumped through the hoops, did everything that was asked. I don't get it why it even happened to me in the first place. I have tons of questions that have never been answered.

Originally posted by one4all
Please consider the phrase"the truth will set you free",I as well have been overcome by a need to be as truthful as I humanly can be,and some close family members have experienced this as well,I feel like we are picking teams in a junior high school gym class.

It isnt a painfull process at all,although it does seem to to be that a lot of people do notice it happening.

And spontaneously.No conscious choice,no decision to be reborn or repent or anything so dramatic---in fact strangly no religous context,no greater power context,simply a change in focus and direction needing no external drive or prodding.

Like Mom and Dad are almost home from a night out and we are furiously trying to clean up the house after our free for all while they were away.No one is telling us to do it ,we just know we need to get it done before they get here.

Yes, I have been trying to live that way for quite some time. It is interesting that your family members are doing the same thing.

1. What other things do your family members feel compelled to do?
2. Why do you think you need to get it done?
3. What happens if you don't get it done?
4. You definitely have a timeline. When do you think you need to get this done by?
4. You said "we just know we need to get it done before they get here." Who do you think "they" is?

I recognize these compulsions because I have them myself:

Be honest.

Don't steal. (That means having things in the house that don't belong to you. I personally believe it relates to being honest.)

Be kind and loving to others.


And yeah, other people DO notice when you're the only one among them who is compulsively honest.

These feelings/compulsions started a few weeks before I went to the grey room. They have not left me.

You mentioned it as if you were cleaning house. You are definitely cleaning your spiritual house (not a religion, I mean your actual spirit). I'm curious. Do you or your family members feel you have to spiritually clean your real house by getting rid of certain things?

Originally posted by Waiting2

Originally posted by antar
Could this be MKUltra? Is it possible that you have been tested on?

To my knowledge I have not been tested on in the way you are suggesting. My friend and I were both told by separate doctors that our first babies were not our first. My doctor actually thought I was lying to her. As a result, she assumed I knew what was going to happen and treated me in a different way.

My friend said the same thing happened to her. My friend was also told by an Ear/Nose/Throat specialist that she had had multiple surgeries. My friend has never had any surgeries in that area of her body.

I really don't know. That is why I am looking for others.

There was an entire room/space filled with people. Hundreds of people. This happened to my friend and me in 1994. I decided to break my silence and start looking for other people who have been in that room. I think they have answers to some of my questions.

Ok, I do not mean to make you or anyone else nervous or a bit scared but your experiences sound an aweful lot like grey abductions. Do you know about grey alien abduction senerios? First off they do perform surgeries and yes you probably know in the nose, sinus and in all other areas. I've had a number of surgeries performed on me. They also do implant embryos in people and then remove them. They also can take you like you described into a room which is really on a ship, circular or a circular feeling , misty and very bright. I had experiences of being in a very large room like you describe but the room I was in had chairs inside. This part is different than your expeience, and then I was taken into another room and they performed somekind of brain scan, typical.
They also can manipulate how you feel with total control make you feel any emotion and yes, calm and important. They do tell people very calmly and sincerely that they are special.
They also do stand behind you like this. One time I was taken into a stationary craft scout ship right into their flight deck and they were standing behind me and said not to turn around and look at them. But they were standing behind like this.
Do you remember if you heard them speaking to you? How did you hear them if you did.
I do not know but you might want to be careful because the greys like to run experiments like this even long term ones. They test people in all manors, physical, emotional, psychological, spiritual heck the most recent experience they had my body half phased and made me walk through a concrete wall which was kind of like walking through thick mud. Greys are strange types but I would not put it past them to have a mass abduction like your experience.

[edit on 15-8-2010 by covert1]

Originally posted by covert1
Ok, I do not mean to make you or anyone else nervous or a bit scared but your experiences sound an aweful lot like grey abductions. Do you know about grey alien abduction senerios? First off they do perform surgeries and yes you probably know in the nose, sinus and in all other areas. I've had a number of surgeries performed on me. They also do implant embryos in people and then remove them. They also can take you like you described into a room which is really on a ship, circular or a circular feeling , misty and very bright. I had experiences of being in a very large room like you describe but the room I was in had chairs inside. This part is different than your expeience, and then I was taken into another room and they performed somekind of brain scan, typical.
They also can manipulate how you feel with total control make you feel any emotion and yes, calm and important. They do tell people very calmly and sincerely that they are special.
They also do stand behind you like this. One time I was taken into a stationary craft scout ship right into their flight deck and they were standing behind me and said not to turn around and look at them. But they were standing behind like this.
Do you remember if you heard them speaking to you? How did you hear them if you did.
I do not know but you might want to be careful because the greys like to run experiments like this even long term ones. They test people in all manors, physical, emotional, psychological, spiritual heck the most recent experience they had my body half phased and made me walk through a concrete wall which was kind of like walking through thick mud. Greys are strange types but I would not put it past them to have a mass abduction like your experience.

[edit on 15-8-2010 by covert1]

Don't worry. Your comments didn't scare me. I actually saw one grey--short, about 4 feet. I also saw a few tall, grey guys...at least 10-12 feet tall. The short one was listening to the tall ones. The tall ones were in charge.

I know this is a long thread, but if you read back, I said that they didn't speak with words. I heard them in my head.

In the room I was in, there were no chairs. No operating tables. Nothing to sit or rest on. Just a vast space of a room.

My experience was different than others I have heard about. I really don't want another one, if you know what I mean. At the same time, I DO want answers.

I'm sorry this is happening to you. Thank you for sharing a part of your experience. Why do you think they keep coming back to you?

I KNOW there was something in my shoulder. It was put there about 2 years ago. I just knew there was something there. I was finally able to get it out. Small, metallic, like a piece of lead from a mechanical pencil. Couldn't be bent or broken. Somehow it just jumped out of my hand. I know that sound strange, but it's true. I looked and looked on the rug but couldn't find it. I think there is another one in my nose.

Thank you for sharing. I'd love to hear more about your experiences in the rooms you were in.

Originally posted by gimme_some_truth

Originally posted by Waiting2
Everyone carried something but I won't tell you what it is.

What? Why not? When I hear that you are not willing to tell us something, the first thing that comes to mind is " What is this person hiding? Why are they not sharing the entire truth with us?"

So I ask you, what are you hiding from us? Why will you not tell us the whole story?

Until you do, I am going to have a hard time believing you, as everybody else should as well.

I think she wants to save that one fact for someone that was there. That will be the only way to identify someone that was in the room.

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I haven't read this whole thread yet, but i won't have a lot of time in the next couple of days to be online, and i wanted to get this out there so that if there are any others who have had an experience like mine, and if i should start my own thread, then i can hear about it when i get back online later this week.

My experience:

I was dreaming, but the quality of the dream was what I have come to call "prophetic", which means to me, that while the content is etched indelibly into my memory, it was not a lucid dream in the least. I was fed this experience, with the express intent by whoever fed it to me that I would remember it for a very long time. I have dreams of this quality from time to time, alas too rarely.

I came to awareness standing upright in an elliptical room about 40 feet long and perhaps 25 feet wide. The floor curved up to meet the walls, and the walls curved toward the ceiling, where there was a soffited lighting band that encircled the upper edge of the wall, which was angled inward from the bottom, at perhaps an overall 20 degree slope, though it was hard to tell with the curves everywhere. The walls themselves were a rusty brown, and the floor appeared to be a very dark brown. they had panels in them, like what is often seen in science fiction movies in alien ships where the craft is quasi-biological in nature. It kind of reminded me of the interior of one of the Death Cult ships in the Chronicles of Riddick, and the wall detail may well have been a projection of my memory from that film, though there was a complete lack of menace, unlike those ships.

I was aware of a presence to my left, though i could see no one. I saw in front of me, along the wall, a line of beings extending from about 9 feet in front of me and to my left about 30 feet, to 9 feet or so to my right.

These beings were of many races. First, a pair of tall greys, then a pair of short zeta greys, then three blue guys with round eyes, also short (4.5 feet perhaps). their appearance was altered by my mind as i looked at them. the blue short guys were somehow easier for me to see than whatever it was that they really were. then a pair of nordics, a pair of reptilians (who weren't menacing in the least, but quite cold) and lastly a lone leonine ET. He had with him a delicate genetic experiment, which he had to carry with him constantly. (as i was waking, i heard the line from "Dancing Days" by Led Zeppelin "I saw a lion, he was standing alone with a tadpole in a jar")

I was asked which of these beings I would like to go with. I immediately knew I wanted to go with the Lion. He was the only one who put off a warm vibe. The others were friendly enough (except for the reptiles and the short greys) but not "caring", as the Lion obviously was, and he was taking personal interest in me, i could tell.

Then I woke up.

Should i start my own thread about the "brown room"? I can just imagine all the laughs i would get!

thanks for reading.

Hi Waiting2, NotThat,

I've read about 2/3 of this thread and then jumped ahead to the last page, so I'm not sure what I've missed yet. I'll go back and catch up.

Don't look at my avatar as a wolf, look at me as a sheep, or puppy in wolf's clothing That reference was from page 20.

Do you feel like time is running out soon? I'm moving probably next year, further north west, and I feel like I need to be in place by next fall. I sure wish I knew what was coming, and when.

I feel like I know nothing, compared to what some people have been shown, although it sounds like it mostly gave you more questions.

Originally posted by seamus
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Seamus, I don't think you'll get any more laughs than a grey room! The description of the room is similar. Some of the aliens and your impressions of them are similar.

Because the most striking thing was the Lion, I'd copy this comment and create a new thread. If I were you, I'd want to know why all the different aliens were gathered in the same room. I'd also want to hear from others who have seen/experienced this Lion alien to get their impressions of this being.

I hope that helps! Perhaps someone will make a comment on your thread that will help us figure things out. When you start your thread, U2U me so I can follow it!

Thanks for commenting! Your dream was fascinating!

Originally posted by snowspirit

Snowspirit, nice to hear from you. I like your avatar. I'd forgotten I'd written that.

You're right. It gave me lots of questions. By nature I am a questioner. Not because I like questions, but because I want answers. I'm good at getting answers. This is one experience that I just don't have the answers for.

Yes, I feel like time is running out soon. "Soon", though, is relative. For a while there I was in urgency mode. Hurry up, buy stuff, prepare, get ready before it's too late. I definitely had a deadline: I did not have a specific date, more just a feeling I had to get things done quickly. It was like I had to do that while no one was paying attention to what I was doing. I'll admit that I'm pretty stubborn when I get these messages so I pretty much said, "Yeah, yeah" and ignored them for a while until NotThat said she was hearing the same things. Then I thought, "Darn it! Now I have to listen!"

Follow your inner compulsions for moving. Whatever that time line in your head is, follow it. Try to beat it. You don't want to get stuck wherever you are, since that is obviously how you are feeling.


For the past 6 months I've been in apprediation mode. It's like I have to soak everything in while I can and appreciate it while I can before it's gone. I drove across the country and saw all sorts of famous landmarks. Went to places I last visited as a college student. I find myself appreciating sunsets, clouds, the sky, listening to birds. I catch myself slowing down and just soaking things in. I buy things for my family members to spoil them so they can have happy memories. Right now this is the good time and I think we will look back on this as such.

I wish I knew what was coming and when as well. I don't. I don't want bad things to happen. I'm not one of those hoping for the world to end. That's not my idea of a fun time. I wouldn't have had kids if I thought that.

I just think things will be harder.

I read something on ATS that mentioned Oct. 2011. That date resonated with me. My own gut tells me that 2012 is a false date. If TPTB make the date "later", then no one will begin to panic until they get closer to the date. It buys time for them to get everthing into place. But honestly, I don't have a date for you. That's the worst part about waiting. You never know when you are going to stop!


I recently read a book "The Way We Were" by Susan Beth Pfeffer. It's about a chunk of the moon breaking off, which changes the moon's orbit and affects everyone. When I read it, I felt like it was a how-to-survive guide for teenagers. The scenario was fascinating and quite realistic. You might want to check it out if you have time.


You know you need to move and you have a deadline for doing it. What else do you know? I'm interested in hearing what else you know because maybe something you say will resonate with what I know/feel.

I look forward to hearing from you!





[edit on 18-8-2010 by Waiting2]

Originally posted by SonoftheSun
reply to post by Waiting2

 

What a great thread !!! I finished reading it earlier on and wanted to comment.

You and your mom had the courage to stand up and speak out, it is highly honorable !

There are many of us. Isn't it a magnificent feeling to know that we are not alone?

It you've noticed, more and more are coming out. Around the globe.

Silence is no longer a virtue.

Be well.

SonoftheSun, how did I somehow miss your comments? Suddenly, they were just there. Sorry about that! Thank you for responding and for your nice message.

Your post intrigued me. I'd love to hear about your experiences and what you know.

[edit on 18-8-2010 by Waiting2]

Originally posted by Waiting2

I read something on ATS that mentioned Oct. 2011. That date resonated with me. My own gut tells me that 2012 is a false date. If TPTB make the date "later", then no one will begin to panic until they get closer to the date. It buys time for them to get everthing into place. But honestly, I don't have a date for you. That's the worst part about waiting. You never know when you are going to stop!

You know you need to move and you have a deadline for doing it. What else do you know? I'm interested in hearing what else you know because maybe something you say will resonate with what I know/feel.

I keep thinking of all the 11:11 mentions, which feels like November 2011. October 28 2011 is the other date that seems to be mentioned a lot. Maybe to get it done by end of Oct 2011??

Water sources, quantity, and quality are on my mind too. And to make sure the house is in an area that won't flood due to high water tables, or a river too close. The house must be on a higher elevation.

Other than that, I'm actually staying with the colder climate, rather than looking for a warmer place. Maybe because of less people around, or water sources are more plentiful when snow around??