Looking for people who have been to the grey room

Originally posted by Garjyk

Originally posted by NotThat
Sometimes I feel like I am the only adult in a sea of children.

This is a common but very very problematic image.

Children as children don't wage wars, pillaging, raping, torturing, killing everyone they see. And you know it.

I was responding to someone's post where he said he was frustrated that people around him seem to be zombies and didn't have the same level of consciousness that he did.

In relationship to his statement my image is an accurate response to his feelings. My world view seems to be larger than most people I meet. It has nothing to do with intelligence but has to do with awareness.

I have never heard anyone else use that image so I was unaware it was a common one. No offense intended. I only meant to reassure the "zombie" poster.

I think I know a bit more about what has happened to me, and NotThat mentioning awareness led me back here. It seems my sense of awareness has jumped several levels - quick enough an experience to not exactly startle, but more surprise me, and enough to make me realise that This 'Thing' is definitely happening to me.
Looking back, it would be easy to see significance when there is none (just randomness) but I'm now pretty sure there have been past events in my life when I've either pushed away wake up prompts or 'missed the signposts' that might have brought me here, or somewhere like it, a lot earlier.
There is another thing I've acknowledged this week - I can now feel history. It's like a sense, say, smell. If I go anywhere there has been a significant historical event - and whether I know in advance something happened there - I can 'smell' it as if it's just happened. This is strongest and unsettling in bad places, such as old battlefields. Even those that having nothing to show today what happened perhaps hundreds of years ago.
I can also feel it near memorials to the dead, particularly war memorials. When I walk to the local stores there is a stone memorial in a churchyard across the road from my walk. On my way to the shops two weeks ago I suddenly found myself crossing the street and climbing the chain link fence around the memorial. I could not leave until I'd tidied some old flowers and wreaths beside it, put there quite a while back by veterans and youth groups. The memorial is an obelisk with the names of local men who died in the First World War. 'Normally' all I would be thinking about was my grocery list. These sort of things were never on my radar.
It was definitely compulsive behavour- I just couldn't get on with MY stuff until it was done. I have never even been in the church. Now when I pass it I find myself checking that everything is still tidy and nothing has been blown over or fallen over. As if it's my job.
NotThat's need to return pens and the like and the relief Waiting2 feels as preparations are made (growing things etc) rang a bell afterwards. But I really can't see how I'm preparing for something, while NotThat and Waiting2's versions make sense.

Originally posted by Garjyk
(Continuing...)

Originally posted by Waiting2
My current job is to promote positivity, kindness, honesty, patience, comfort, and love at a time when most people are angry, frustrated, and hurt. (Have you noticed how many people are angry right now?)

These reactions come from our current problems. They are mostly global fears, and immediate stress, oppression, frustration, and general body and mind suffering. Thinking more positively sure helps tremendously, but this is only the beginning. Being able to rest for a bit, before effectively really solving all our individual and social problems. People are not really angry, they are only frightened, by all their everyday problems, from birth to death, by all the insecurity, all the instability, and all the uncertainty.

As far as I understand it, from your messages in this topic, you are mostly preparing for a catastrophe, and trying to reassure people. You only wonder about afterward. Why not get ahead in this domain too, and effectively plan for the later steps? It should help you globalize and complete your experience.

You seem quite focalized on "what is about to come". Yet even if anything do happen, this would simply be some phenomenon in our current level of reality. This is in now way the absolute, and there is a whole lot of other possibilities.

Originally posted by Waiting2
Yes, there is a battle going on, good energy vs. evil energy.

It means absolutely nothing in pure materialism. It's only particles.

Now, I'm certainly not saying you should detach yourself from your experience, but if you really want to understand the global vision, you have to put some distance, and research the global vision, starting from the absolute (the void, and pure materialism and mechanism), and progressing step by step, through reflection, reasoning, and analysis. There is the being, the existence, and the life. There is fulfillment we can reach, and we have today numerous major problems to solve, to effectively get to it. There may be various new catastrophes coming, there may be various other societies and individuals who could help us throughout. You regularly talk about "just knowing". But while knowledge sure can be transmitted (and it is very good, as a society, for our development and its perpetuation), you can also find it yourself.

Do you think we said and did everything we could as humans? What did we say? What did we do? In 12,000 years of civilization, we still can not define precisely "happiness", "liberty", and "love". How can this be all we can say and do, as developed individuals? We are terrorized and thus prostrated, by all our problems, leading to always more problems. But this has nothing to do with human nature. It is only our history. We can do a lot to change it.

Garjyk, I think you are over analyzing me and taking some things I say out of context. I really do mean what I say.

Sure, some people are afraid, but I am witnessing multitudes of angry people. People seem to be quickly reacting in a negative way to things around them. They seem to have much shorter fuses, much less patience. I find myself deescalating angry people throughout the day. You said being positive is just the first step and that I should next tackle "solving all our individual and social problems." Believe it or not, I already do that daily in my 9 to 5 job.

Yes, I am waiting for a catastrophe, but I have no idea what it will be. I am not eagerly waiting for it, but I also know it is prudent to be ready for whatever will come. You said I should plan for the steps after that. I am and have been for quite some time.

You said, "Yet even if anything do happen, this would simply be some phenomenon in our current level of reality." I disagree. What will happen is NOT in our current level of reality. What will happen has not happened in such great a scale in current human's history. Again, it is difficult to prepare for something that has never happened before. No, I do not know what that big thing is, but I know it will be a shock.

You said, "In 12,000 years of civilization, we still can not define precisely "happiness", "liberty", and "love". " I disagree with you there. I think those words are quite easy to define. They have denotations and connotations. Many people have written about what those words mean to them.

I have never felt "terrorized by problems." Perhaps you are putting in your own feelings. I am not frustrated, nor am I afraid. I enjoy life and am quite happy.

Thank you for your comments, but I feel this discussion is taking away from the original purpose of the thread. All of these things are side notes to the larger issue: the Grey Room.

I'd like to get back to that topic since that is the main purpose of this thread.

The grey space I entered before I went into the Grey Room was tubelike. I knew I was going up like an elevator. I think it might have been some sort of portal.

I am not sure if the Grey Room was on a spaceship or another planet. I do know I was not on Earth. The Grey Room was definitely otherworldly.

I have read about at least two other people (separate from each other) mentioning a Grey Room as some sort of holding area for people before they got distributed to other places.

1. I believe NotThat and I were in that type of room.

2. NotThat and I were waiting to be sent different places. I do not know where we were being sent.

3. I believe the others in the Grey Room went on without us.

4. I believe the plans changed when I saw and heard the non-humans.

5. Right after we were sent back to our livingroom, I thought we'd been abandoned. However, I do not think that is the case. I remember. I still hear things. I believe we would not continue to hear things today if we somehow failed a test.

Were we being sent to another dimension? Another planet to resettle? What makes someone qualified to go? Who were those tall aliens? Why did my ability to see and hear change my job?

I know there are people regularly monitoring this thread who know what the Grey Room is but have never commented.

I wish you would end your silence. Please answer.

en.wikipedia.org...

Hypnagogic phenomena may be interpreted as visions, prophecies, premonitions, apparitions and inspiration (artistic or divine inspiration), depending on the experiencers’ beliefs and those of their culture.



I'm not posting this to attempt to discredit anyone here. Rather to simply provide an alternative to the events you say you have experienced.




I have in fact read all 22 pages(goodbye 2hrs of my life lol) and I was fairly intrigued... until the thread became like 2 pages on god and how it was suddenly him speaking to you.

I just have a little problem with the whole mother/daughter experience, with that close of a relationship the possibility of this just being a made up story is all the more likely.
Yet because two separate people (even though related) are reporting the same thing it's taken seriously without regard to how the story could easily be fabricated.

I'm not saying without proof it's not true, I simply saying just about everyone has overlooked the facts in lieu of an explanation more fantastic than the reality of it. Because the reality of things are boring, and what's more boring than to find out that the mother and daughter simply share a mental illness or, suffer from Hypnagogia.




Again I'm not saying this because I believe you're lying or that you're crazy, I'm saying this because no one else really has.

Deny that ignorance people.

reply to post by SmokeytheHair


I don't give a sh*t if you believe or don't believe.

We are loking for others who have been to the grey room. You have not.

Go away.

Originally posted by Surprised to be Here
two weeks ago I suddenly found myself crossing the street and climbing the chain link fence around the memorial. I could not leave until I'd tidied some old flowers and wreaths beside it, put there quite a while back by veterans and youth groups. The memorial is an obelisk with the names of local men who died in the First World War.

It was definitely compulsive behavour- I just couldn't get on with MY stuff until it was done. Now when I pass it I find myself checking that everything is still tidy and nothing has been blown over or fallen over. As if it's my job.

I really can't see how I'm preparing for something, while NotThat and Waiting2's versions make sense.

Clean your house, clean your room, clean your dresser, trim your bushes, clean the graveyard. Why not? If cleaning is part of the process, why not clean a neglected spot that calls for attention.

Really, what are we all preparing for? To be better people. To become more whole. To honor and remember what needs to be honored and remembered.

Follow your heart.

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Lol you seem to be throwing a hissy fit of sorts. Have you made it out of middle school yet?

Grow up, or stop being easily offended by a statement that wasn't even offensive.

Very interesting! I have no memories of being Gray Room as you describe it and I haven´t heard about it, but I can somehow resonate this. I have come to conclusion, that I, too, am waiting something, but it´s not time yet. And I feel, that it´s something to do with being, like you said, kind of anchor in the middle of the storm. I usually don´t take those feelings too seroiusly, but I just feel it, since I remember actually.

Amandla - your post is so very similar to my first here about 3 weeks ago - you speak of a resonance and like me, although you have not been to the Grey Room, you KNOW it makes sense, rather than something illogical. I read it and instantly thought - that's just like me, I could have written that.
I note you have also recently joined this site. What drew you here and how did you come across Waiting2's thread?
The thread has given me some comfort as I was starting to be unsettled by senses, and events like an obsessive need to research things I'd normally have no interest in.
It was not the actual Grey Room experience that chimed with me but comments, almost in passing by Waiting2 and NotThat, as they replied to other posters, that really hit home with what's been happening to me.
I return every few days, hoping that someone else who HAS been to the Grey Room, replies honestly to Waiting2 and NotThat.
They were 'sent back' and perhaps this in itself is a rare occurence, so they could be 'looking for a needle in a haystack'.
To the person who suggested this mother and daughter might have suffered some joint hallucination or similar, I'd like to point out that while there is obvious commonality in their experience, each has interpreted it somewhat differently, and made room for each other's view, with the theme of preparation as a constant.

reply to post by Surprised to be Here


After my post I read the full thread and was amazed how similar some people experiences are with me. Most interesting is the "waiting" and feeling, that we have job to do, when this event occures, but I don´t know, what it is either. I´ve read similar post from other threads too and it is very interesting, where it leads us? Or are we all crazy? We just have to wait.
I joined ATS finally, because when I searched some topic I was interested in I often found some ATS thread, where people were discussing this. And recently I just felt like it´s time to join and start posting myself. Intrestingly there are many people who are recently joined. It´s like something is in the air. I found this thread by accident, it just was there and sounded interesting . I have this obsessive need to search sertain information all the time too, especially past few months.

I have no visions, but I´ve bein thinking, that my connection with something "higher" is through dreams. I have different kind of dreams, most are usual, but some are what I call Big Dreams. Some people here mentioned, that this event we are waiting might be something to do with the sun. It amazed me most, because many of my dreams are about sun and I have similar feeling, that sun plays important role in the changes we are waiting.
I´ve never had any negative contacts, dreams or visions about any beings. I tend to believe it´s not about doing something for some aliens, it´s more the feeling, that we are all changing, we are about to experience evolutionary leap, maybe first time in out Galaxie´s history and all other races on other plantes are experiencing it too. Calleman, who sais, that Mayan calender ends in 2011 October calls it the completion of creation cycle. So it´s like we have been in a womb for all this time, developing and getting ready to finaly be born as a new speaces (all, animals and plants as well). I kind of like this theory, but there are so many of them our there. Anyway I think it´s much bigger than any of us can imagine. Maybe there are just no words or no ways to describe it to us, what we are waiting for? Or maybe even God doesnt´t know? It could be boring to know everything all the time
I have several theories and I´m also interested in singularity, Universe, ancient civilisations, time and quantum physics, though it´s really hard for me to understand mathematics related subjects. But it´s just sooo interesting!
I think we are lucky to live in very interesting time and there are no reason to be afraid. Of anything. Because fear is pointless and doesn´t do you any good even if you are dying. I also think, that times might get rough for a while, but outcome is beond our best imagination .

And BTW, I also was quite shocked about NZ and Australia thread, because I remember them being different too.

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Originally posted by SmokeytheHair
reply to post by NotThat

 

Lol you seem to be throwing a hissy fit of sorts. Have you made it out of middle school yet?

Grow up, or stop being easily offended by a statement that wasn't even offensive.

They are both very nice and sincere ladies, you may not believe them but you did say they could have made it up, which is offensive. So when you offend someone do not be surprised when, they are defensive.

BTW NotThat I got chills when I read above about The Grey Room being a waiting place to send people to resettle. That is what I intuitively feel is true.
Hope you are both well!

[edit on 29-4-2010 by cindymars]

Hi ive just posted a thread about some dreams that ive been having and i came across this thread as i may have been visiting the grey room????

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Please tell me if my dreams are anything to do with this grey room.
Thank you

Yes. Amandla, I know all about the maths thing and trying to follow through the equations. I left school at 16 so a sudden interest in quantum mechanics is a huge leap from nowhere.
NotThat has come across another person with the 'maths virus'!
I spent a weekend including an overnighter going through the paradox of Schrodinger's cat and multi-verse possibilities. I came here by a chance odd route like you, started reading this thread, the third I chose at random, and just KNEW it was big piece of the jigsaw dumped on me.
It would be interesting to know if ATS admin see cyclical spikes in their membership.
I hope that the people who hold the other bits of Waiting2's puzzle now come forward and put down their pieces.

Originally posted by SmokeytheHair
en.wikipedia.org...

Hypnagogic phenomena may be interpreted as visions, prophecies, premonitions, apparitions and inspiration (artistic or divine inspiration), depending on the experiencers’ beliefs and those of their culture.

I'm not posting this to attempt to discredit anyone here. Rather to simply provide an alternative to the events you say you have experienced.

I have in fact read all 22 pages(goodbye 2hrs of my life lol) and I was fairly intrigued... until the thread became like 2 pages on god and how it was suddenly him speaking to you.

I just have a little problem with the whole mother/daughter experience, with that close of a relationship the possibility of this just being a made up story is all the more likely.
Yet because two separate people (even though related) are reporting the same thing it's taken seriously without regard to how the story could easily be fabricated.

I'm not saying without proof it's not true, I simply saying just about everyone has overlooked the facts in lieu of an explanation more fantastic than the reality of it. Because the reality of things are boring, and what's more boring than to find out that the mother and daughter simply share a mental illness or, suffer from Hypnagogia.

Again I'm not saying this because I believe you're lying or that you're crazy, I'm saying this because no one else really has.

Deny that ignorance people.

Dear SmokeytheHair,

Thanks for responding. Actually, if you look closely, you're not the first person to say we were lying or crazy.

Think I am crazy if you want. Think this is Hypnagogia if that makes you feel better. Believe the entire thing is fabricated. Whatever you want. I have no intention of debating my credibility or attacking yours.

I know my story sounds strange, weird, made up. It's even crazier because it HAPPENED. Crazier still, parts of it happened to SEVERAL members of my family (which you already know because you read the thread).

That's the thing. It happened and I don't know why. I have theories but that's all they are, theories. I want answers.

Am I being tracked? What was that thing in my shoulder? What does that mean? Is that a good thing or a bad thing? What is UP with the Grey Room? Who in the heck was that yellow guy with the freaky fuzzy yellow transparent car? How/why was I able to see through the porch roof? Why did I have to throw away items that were incredibly important to me? Why did I see several aliens and NotThat didn't see them at all but she felt one? Was I under some sort of spell/drug? Where did everyone else go? Why did they leave me after I followed all of the directions? Why am I still getting messages? There were/are other family members hearing things. Why are we all getting the same messages when we don't even live near each other and aren't that close to each other? I know the short greys are bad, but what about those tall aliens? Who are they? What is their agenda? The tall ones felt okay/benevolent. Was that just a ruse? Is this generational? Will my kids and their kids and THEIR kids have similar experiences? Will I get taken to the Grey Room again? Will my family members be able to come with me? Is that even a good thing? I know others have/are experiencing similar things. Why is it happening to them, too? Why do I get short movies in my head of a dangerous future? Why.... why.....why?

SmokeytheHair, are YOU experiencing Knowings? Are YOU having sudden impulses to do things you wouldn't normally do? Are YOU hearing a Voice? Have YOU been to a Grey Room?

Do YOU have any answers to my questions?


I'm looking for help here. The whole purpose of this thread is to find answers to my questions. I'm glad you read the thread. If you do not have answers, perhaps you will one day run across someone with similar comments in a thread and will direct him/her to this one.

All of us on ATS are looking for answers. Good luck in your own personal search for the truth!

Sincerely,
Waiting2

Originally posted by Amandla
Very interesting! I have no memories of being Gray Room as you describe it and I haven´t heard about it, but I can somehow resonate this. I have come to conclusion, that I, too, am waiting something, but it´s not time yet. And I feel, that it´s something to do with being, like you said, kind of anchor in the middle of the storm. I usually don´t take those feelings too seroiusly, but I just feel it, since I remember actually.

Amandla,

I like your African name. Very clever.

I also am waiting something but it's not time yet. Why are we waiting? Do you have any idea when that time will be? (I keep on thinking "soon", but as you know, "soon" is pretty vague.) Do you have any instincts as to what that "something" is?

Are you experiencing anything else like visions of the future, an inner voice telling you to do things, etc?

Why do you think you have this feeling?

Try to think of anything else that comes to mind, even something slight. Sometimes the slightest comment will resonate with someone else. Anything you can add would be extremely helpful! I'm glad you responded!

Sincerely,
Waiting2

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I have never remembered being to the gey room. I was here to transmit. What precisely I am not quite sure. I too feel that the mission is over and we have secured a result which has exceeded all expectations.

Originally posted by Surprised to be Here
Amandla - your post is so very similar to my first here about 3 weeks ago - you speak of a resonance and like me, although you have not been to the Grey Room, you KNOW it makes sense, rather than something illogical. I read it and instantly thought - that's just like me, I could have written that.
I note you have also recently joined this site. What drew you here and how did you come across Waiting2's thread?
The thread has given me some comfort as I was starting to be unsettled by senses, and events like an obsessive need to research things I'd normally have no interest in.
It was not the actual Grey Room experience that chimed with me but They were 'sent back' and perhaps this in itself is a rare occurence, so they could be 'looking for a needle in a haystack'.
To the person who suggested this mother and daughter might have suffered some joint hallucination or similar, I'd like to point out that while there is obvious commonality in their experience, each has interpreted it somewhat differently, and made room for each other's view, with the theme of preparation as a constant.

Surprised,

Thanks for the nice comments!

Like you, I am hoping to find others who were in the Grey Room. However, I am even more surprised that there are people who are hearing and doing the same things even though they have not been to the room. I wonder what the connection is?

You said things NotThat and I said to each other in passing somehow resonated with you. Like you, I was unsettled by senses. I had no idea NotThat was feeling and experiencing the same thing (hearing a voice, etc) until she made an off-handed comment.

Somehow, a small comment made triggers something in others and they go, "Oh man, you're doing the same thing!" It's like they almost want to dismiss what is happening until someone else brings it up and then they realize that they really aren't crazy because that other person is doing it, too.

I find it incredible that others all over the place have the same feeling of "waiting" and "soon" and "preparation." The one person even said that he/she had a similar job to NotThat. Wow. What are we getting prepared for?

Perhaps the comments below will spark something in someone.

Does anyone else have knowings/feelings/visions like the ones below? Or, can you add to them?

1. There will be no electricity. None in the homes. No computers. Very limited forms of communication. Cars will not work.
2. Loved ones need to be close together so you can get them when the electricity stops and the cars don't work.
3. Police/military/riot police will patrol the streets. Some are foreign. Unusual badges. They will call people to gather into the streets outside of their homes.
4. People will be hungry. Food will be in short supply.
5. Many people will be walking incredibly long distances.
6. People will have to stay in their homes because of some health/environmental reason.
7. Later, people will not be able to leave their homes because of some governmental/safety reason. A curfew will be in effect.
8. There will be safe houses. People will travel in small groups. People are running away/hiding from someone/thing.
9. Something is wrong with the sky/sun.
10. Certain items are needed: tent, wagon, sleeping bags/heavy blankets, flint, water, food, bow and arrows, oil lamps
11. Certain skills are needed: gardening, growing seeds inside, medical
12. It is important to fully appreciate life now because things won't be like this very soon.

Originally posted by boo1981
Hi ive just posted a thread about some dreams that ive been having and i came across this thread as i may have been visiting the grey room????

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Please tell me if my dreams are anything to do with this grey room.
Thank you

Dear Boo,

Thanks for your comments. I posted a reply on your thread.

Sincerely,
Waiting2

Originally posted by Klaatumagnum
reply to post by Waiting2

 

I have never remembered being to the gey room. I was here to transmit. What precisely I am not quite sure. I too feel that the mission is over and we have secured a result which has exceeded all expectations.

Klaatumagnum,

Thank you for responding to this thread. If you have read some of it, you'll know that I am looking for specific pieces of information. Your comments were quite vague. Would you care to elaborate?

Thanks,
Waiting2