Looking for people who have been to the grey room

Originally posted by Surprised to be Here
Well - there's a thing I knew - that on a site I wouldn't normally be anywhere near, that if I returned right now, Waiting2 had replied.
I just scrolled straight to it, as if answering a phone, and THEN realised that I KNEW it would be there.
I said: "How on earth have you found THAT in seconds?" and she just said: "I don't know - I've always been able to do it, I just needed to be on my own. It's some kind of lucky thing where I can find stuff people have lost."
Back to our subject - I think my earthquake research, which somehow diverted into the universe and quantum mechanics slowly developed from about 18 months ago when I had a dream or vision (not sure how it came to be now) about a 'slice' of the Earth just coming away. Think of a small chunk cut out of a round cheese. Not enough to stop it being a cheese but enough to make it a slightly different shape and roll differently.
I told friends, who of course said it was a ridiculous idea. But I didn't forget it, the thought kept coming back until early this year when the obsessional research and other changes became 'full blown'.
So the Grey Room - perhaps it was test run evacuation, or implanting 'knowledge' so that when this thing happened you and other people would be prepared. As you say, you might have been sent back (or reassigned?) after seeing beings you weren't supposed to. Perhaps some form of hypnotism or similar didn't quite work.
Or perhaps it was all supposed to be like that and the packing clothes had no purpose other than as a test so They would know that you were following their suggestion techniques prior to being taken to the room.
And yes, I know the frustration of not knowing what Soon means in respect of whatever's going to happen. I'm realistic that this piece of elastic could be hours to years and years.
I'm also willing to think it's possible that a Happening is not yet definite but a reasonable possibility and what we are getting is 'just in case' preparations. Hence not all is revealed.

I grinned when I read your post. I think some of this is genetic. You probably have psychic abilities as well--perhaps your visions. The more we pay attention to things, the stronger they become. You might want to ask your mom if she sees anything happening in the future. Her replies might be interesting.

Let's go with your slice of the Earth coming off theory. We have that volcano in Iceland right now. It is a side vent attached to a much larger volcano. What if the entire volcano blows up? That would match your theory that a slice of Earth would come off. The caldera in Yellowstone is big enough that if the volcano exploded, I think it might tip our axis. We already found out in the news that the earthquake in Haiti shifted continents and changed the rate of the Earths' spin. So, I buy your vision that a piece of the Earth could come off.

Yes, the Grey Room could have been a test evacuation. In an evacuation you are told you have a few minutes to pack. (We were told that.) You are told to pack lightly. (We were told that.) You know you have to move quickly or you will miss the pick up point. (We almost did.) You know someone is going to pick you up and take you somewhere safe. (That happened.) When you arrive, you know you will be given further instructions. (We were waiting for them when I saw the beings.)

I agree that some sort of hypnotism didn't work. I like the trial run idea. That makes sense to me, sort of a "work out the kinks" scenario. Yes, I thought the clothes were part of the test. I remember NotThat yelling that we had to hurry or we'd miss it. I think we packed and got back to the living room in less than five minutes. Maybe even three minutes. We actually ran down the stairs and back to the living room to make it in time. Less than a minute later, I knew someone was at the door and we all walked towards it, eventually going to the Grey Room.

As far as time goes, I've already waited 16 years or so. I'm tired of waiting. NotThat is getting older. I'm getting older. I want this to happen in our lifetime because it's a grand mystery that I want solved. I know the time is coming closer. "Soon" is what I keep feeling, but "soon" is a vague term. I know "soon" is not 16 years more, though.

I know there are several scenarios for the future; it just depends on which one will happen. I know the future is constantly changing because not everyone listens and some problems can be diverted.

However, I don't think we are getting "just in case" preparations. I am making genuine preparations. Things will happen. I don't know what will happen or when, but I am trying to get ready nevertheless.

Talk to your mom. A comment she says might awaken something in you to give you further insight.

Thanks for responding. Keep in touch!

Sincerely,
Waiting2

Originally posted by VonDoomen
reply to post by Waiting2

 

what is the storm you ask?

to simply put it,,, idiots and ignorance.

sometimes I get so peeved watching humanity. So many people are "zombies", as in, i dont feel they are conscious in the way that i am. Its kinda wierd to say, but i feel like ive carnated here to help educate people, or something along those lines. Even though I have no experience/memory to back up my claims.

I know what you mean about wanting to help educate others. But, I am not angry at them. They all have the ability to see like we do . I think they will also "wake up." However, they may freak out when that happens because they will not be used to their new abilities and think they are just crazy.

Don't get peeved at people who don't know. Be kind to them. It's not their fault that they don't know. How can it be their fault if they have never been awakened?

Since my head has been busy all day probing probability versus randomness (I tried watching soaps/ a film etc but didn't work) I decided to look at Grey Room anomalies and possibilities.

Taking the Grey Room as a real experience, firstly we have this, beyond the absolute strangeness of the incident: Nothing Else Big Happened. By that I mean the world continued (at least for now) and Waiting2 and NotThat returned to their lives with extra knowledge which has shaped some of their life decisions since.
So WHY be taken to the Grey Room at all? I said it might be a test, since then I've wondered if it was a demonstration of what could be done IF necessary.
Imagine a scenario where some world leaders/ military had been contacted by other beings, perhaps with a warning of danger on Earth. If the visitors suggested moving survivors to a safer place, I think most military chiefs would have severe reservations about the reaction of much of the population. And who might go.
It is interesting that Waiting2 and all the other people in the Grey Room seemed comfortable, as well as excited about being there. It would be far more natural for any large bunch of humans undergoing such an experience to include some panic, sobbing, praying, shock, even violence.
A test-run demonstration of orderly 'transportation' to the perhaps halfway house of the Grey Room might solve that. People had been conditioned to respond in a certain manner.

Secondly, who are these people in the Grey Room with Waiting2 and NotThat?
Anomalies here include that if the people present were from across the planet, a proportional representation, there would be a number normally asleep in their time zone (let's assume they stayed up. knowing something was going to happen), some indigenous tribal people (did they bring spare clothes?) and a multitude of languages.
If not, and everyone spoke English and ethnically and age-wise seemed in keeping with NotThat and Waiting2's world region, we have other possibilities.
There could be several Grey Rooms, taking different sets of people. Or the 'demonstration' was limited to a particular region. Or even that the only real humans in the Grey Room at that time were Waiting2 and NotThat. The other people they saw were implanted mind projections to keep them calm/ distracted. This would explain the difficulty in now finding others.

Now - the packing of clothes. Again, the clothes were not needed. Most people would need more than one spare set for any real journey. It's unlikely there's some kind of Alien Launderette washing your clothes every other day. I think the clothes packing was a two-pronged distraction / trigger mechanism for the event. Prong 1 - part of the 'journey' suggestion. Prong 2- an indicator to those in charge of the journey that you are responding to suggestions.

Why did Waiting2 and NotThat get sent back? If a test-run or demonstration, that was exactly what was supposed to happen. The feeling of disappointment would stem from the pre-event conditioning for the journey, the acceptance instilled and the excitement rather than fear.

Waiting2 saw aliens and knew she was not supposed to. How significant is this? Well, it would mark her out in any test-run or demo, even more than the man who turned up in a bath towel. Perhaps one or two others were also so 'open' to the event that they saw, too. Or if Waiting2 and NotThat were the only real humans there it was a moment of reality when the cosy 'cover story' slipped.

Who were the aliens? Well, since we now see about 15billion light years into the universe and send out SETI signals with zilch real response, it seems unlikely that aliens will roll up in any transportation we can imagine. More likely is that they have conquered dimensional travel and are just 'next door'.

Originally posted by Surprised to be Here

Taking the Grey Room as a real experience, firstly we have this, beyond the absolute strangeness of the incident: Nothing Else Big Happened. By that I mean the world continued (at least for now) and Waiting2 and NotThat returned to their lives with extra knowledge which has shaped some of their life decisions since.
So WHY be taken to the Grey Room at all? There could be several Grey Rooms, taking different sets of people. Or the 'demonstration' was limited to a particular region. Or even that the only real humans in the Grey Room at that time were Waiting2 and NotThat. The other people they saw were implanted mind projections to keep them calm/ distracted. This would explain the difficulty in now finding others.

Surprised,

NotThat thinks the Grey Room was it and we're just here now. I keep thinking they are coming back, but I don't know.

I made a conscious choice to listen to the voice. I agreed. I followed directions. The voice led me to the Grey Room. People weren't panicking because they had also been invited and agreed. We agreed. The weren't fake humans. They were real. I couldn't see every face in the room because there were hundreds. I heard English in my own small group. I heard English conversations spoken in other small groups around me. However, other languages could have been spoken further away. It was a large room.

As for Nothing Else Big Happened, I'd disagree. After this event, I could look into people's souls and see their deepest fears and desires.
Complete strangers would come up to me and tell me their life stories. I'd listen and tell them the answer/reassure them...and not remember most of what I'd said, but they'd all leave feeling so much better. I LOOKED different. I knew the future. I still heard a voice. I still had compulsions to prepare for something. To me, all of those things were/are really big. It completely changed my life. It has affected ALL of my life decisions.

The Grey Room was one small event in a series of events. It was the one that left me with numerous questions.

I originally thought the Grey Room was THE sole connection. I don't know why I was taken to the Grey Room. I wanted to find others who had been there because maybe they'd have the answers to my questions.

I incorrectly assumed only people who had been in the room were doing what I was doing. I thought the Grey Room was the key.

Now I know that the Grey Room was one event, but that there are many others who are doing what I am doing without ever having been in the room.

That is HUGE.

It means there are MANY more of us hearing the voice than I thought. It means others are receiving "knowings."

What is it about us?

What makes us different?

What do we have in common with each other?

If it's not the Grey Room, what is it then? What is the connection?

Why are we hearing the voice, knowing the future, preparing?


I've made a lot of speculations, but I have no idea. Honestly, I'm just THRILLED others are doing this, too. Others have missions. Again, this is HUGE.

I KNEW I WASN'T ALONE!!!










[edit on 18-4-2010 by Waiting2]

Sorry Waiting2, perhaps I should have said Nothing Big Happened IMMEDIATELY after your Grey Room visit. At far as most of us were aware, anyway. The world ticked/ hobbled on until where we are now.
What's for sure is that more and more people, as you say, are now 'waking up' one way or another. It is definitely good to know there's a lot of other people out there finding their own way.
Enjoy this: Yesterday I mentioned my head being full of 'randomness and probability'. Just after 8pm I switched off the latest volcano news and turned the TV straight to films, where one I'd never heard of had just started, but it had Nicholas Cage in it so I decided to give it a go. The guide to the programme was 'Nicholas Cage discovers a list of numbers forecasting imminent catastrophe and faces a heart-stopping dash to prevent the ultimate disaster. Gripping supernatural thriller'
Missed the start but came straight into a scene where Cage turns out to be an astrophysics lecturer talking to a class about randomness versus pre-determined activity within the Universe. So it got my attention!
The film plot was built around disaster predictions made by a young girl hearing voices 50 years previously. Anyway, a giant solar flare (which world leaders knew was coming) destroyed much of the Earth (Cage dies along with millions) but before that he witnesses aliens rescuing children just before the global disaster, including his own son. By the way, the aliens looked quite human until they revealed their true form - tall, silvery grey and elegant/ athletic, humanoid shape and limbs.
The children were delivered to some sort of Eden-like planet to start again. Cage's son went there with the grand-daughter of the girl who had originally written the number predictions. The aliens gave them a white rabbit each to take with them. And here's the best bit - the film was called The Knowing.
I'm now off to work out the probability of me switching into that!

Originally posted by Waiting2
[...] there is no vocabulary for what I experienced.

We have a lot of words, for a lot of things, and we can shape them through a lot of various ways.

For example: "a deep feeling of profound exaltation, shivering both of excitation and relief, the dynamic light, the enveloping warmth, the refreshing clarity, all leading to such a beautiful and fulfilling transparency of consciousness, in complete connection of body and mind, and an intense curiosity for the entire diversity of the existence, here and now, everywhere and for ever and ever".

Originally posted by Waiting2
Even if I had full knowledge of philosophy, psychology, politics, and sociology (as you mentioned), it would not have helped me. This was an experience outside our common reality.

I did talk about seeing them in various new ways, or at least in a very pure manner. The absolute is philosophy, the mind is psychology, the global management is politics, the life as a society is sociology. Your experience is clearly linked to these four elements. Even if you may not know much about the details of your experience, you can very well consider a more absolute framework, which would at least enable you to detach yourself from the possible problems (and at least of the feeling of "just following what they want and waiting for what they will want next"), and possibly enable you to go much farther in what you can do for global good, independently from what possible gods, spirits, or extraterrestrials may think about.

Trying to discover what would be the best society, and how to reach it from our current situation, through a global major transition project, including without any external help (although we sure can think, in addition to this, about what others may help us with, to ease some research or process).

Originally posted by Waiting2
Garjyk, your waking dream sounds scary. I also had some scary waking dreams. I chose/asked...whatever you would call it....to not know those scary waking dreams anymore. Soon after I did that, they went away.

When the global situation will improve, they very likely will fade progressively. For now, although quite tiring, they are significant tools as bases of reflection (although I already did reflect on quite a lot of subjects, and some of them are sure getting quite repetitive, but I can deal with them without too much problem).

Originally posted by Waiting2
I know what it is like when people don't "hear" you. Don't worry. You'll eventually find them, wherever they are.

I know I will, this is a simple process of presenting enough of my discoveries, with enough structure and details, so people can more easily open themselves to it, while reconsidering their various prejudices, taboos, and ignorances, as I have done.

Originally posted by Waiting2
I'm usually awake around 3:30 a.m. for some reason. (Why that time??)

When are you getting to sleep? We have generally a 1h30 sleep cycle (slightly increasing with tiredness, and decreasing more with rest, like after a full night of sleep). If like me, you think about getting to bed around midnight, and effectively sleep around 0:30, you may very normally wake up around 3:30. And we seldom wake up at the end of the first cycle, so it may feel particular as the first time you wake up "in the middle of the night". Well, of course, it is just the usual explanation, there may well be other elements in your specific case.

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Originally posted by Waiting2
My current job is to promote positivity, kindness, honesty, patience, comfort, and love at a time when most people are angry, frustrated, and hurt. (Have you noticed how many people are angry right now?)

These reactions come from our current problems. They are mostly global fears, and immediate stress, oppression, frustration, and general body and mind suffering. Thinking more positively sure helps tremendously, but this is only the beginning. Being able to rest for a bit, before effectively really solving all our individual and social problems. People are not really angry, they are only frightened, by all their everyday problems, from birth to death, by all the insecurity, all the instability, and all the uncertainty.

As far as I understand it, from your messages in this topic, you are mostly preparing for a catastrophe, and trying to reassure people. You only wonder about afterward. Why not get ahead in this domain too, and effectively plan for the later steps? It should help you globalize and complete your experience.

You seem quite focalized on "what is about to come". Yet even if anything do happen, this would simply be some phenomenon in our current level of reality. This is in now way the absolute, and there is a whole lot of other possibilities.

Originally posted by Waiting2
Yes, there is a battle going on, good energy vs. evil energy.

It means absolutely nothing in pure materialism. It's only particles.

Now, I'm certainly not saying you should detach yourself from your experience, but if you really want to understand the global vision, you have to put some distance, and research the global vision, starting from the absolute (the void, and pure materialism and mechanism), and progressing step by step, through reflection, reasoning, and analysis. There is the being, the existence, and the life. There is fulfillment we can reach, and we have today numerous major problems to solve, to effectively get to it. There may be various new catastrophes coming, there may be various other societies and individuals who could help us throughout. You regularly talk about "just knowing". But while knowledge sure can be transmitted (and it is very good, as a society, for our development and its perpetuation), you can also find it yourself.

Do you think we said and did everything we could as humans? What did we say? What did we do? In 12,000 years of civilization, we still can not define precisely "happiness", "liberty", and "love". How can this be all we can say and do, as developed individuals? We are terrorized and thus prostrated, by all our problems, leading to always more problems. But this has nothing to do with human nature. It is only our history. We can do a lot to change it.

Originally posted by Haydn_17
are the people holding small - medium sized cubes or boxes?

It would have been nice to have a physical object as a memento of the experience, but no, no starman marbles or V balls, no cubes or boxes.

Originally posted by EarthBlues
every one was happy and waiting something, soon someone. takes my hand and i must go trought door and there was test that tested my moral, and how will i act in diffirent situations.

There was a moral aspect to the experience of cleaning the house. I needed to return anything that I didn't feel belonged to me - pens from work, stuff that was borrowed, stuff I had meant to give someone - nothing that I had illegally or immorally, but stuff that really wasn't mine.

There was no test of "what if" kind of thing. No oral quizzes. No visual tests to respond to.

[edit on 21-4-2010 by NotThat]

Originally posted by zundier


When you packed your clothes, how did you feel?
You should have thought: "I'm packing clothes because I will go somewhere".

Then you got there, in the Grey Room.
Then, you realized that the clothes wasn't for that particular trip, from your living room to the grey room. Then, what did you think? How did you feel this moment? I imagine you thought again: "The clothes are for where i'm going next... everyone has a package, we must going on travel". Please share how do you feel. I think it's most important analyze how did you feel then what did you saw.

I packed one change of clothes. I knew I was going somewhere and that all my needs would be met. I knew I didn't really need to bring anything. I am glad you asked this question.

I brought a change of clothes because there were many people going where ever I was going and it would take a long time to "process" and settle everyone. I wanted a change of clothes so there was less stress/preasure on who ever was processing us.

I also brought a snack. I did not need to bring food. I knew there would be plenty to eat, but I brought a snack in case I had to wait a long time.

Originally posted by zundier


Then you got there, in the Grey Room.
Then, you realized that the clothes wasn't for that particular trip, from your living room to the grey room. Then, what did you think? How did you feel this moment? I imagine you thought again: "The clothes are for where i'm going next... everyone has a package, we must going on travel". Please share how do you feel. I think it's most important analyze how did you feel then what did you saw.

The grey room was a holding area - kind of like waiting in line before boarding a bus or plane. Everyone in the grey room had a bag so it felt like I had done the correct thing to pack a bag.

Originally posted by Forest King

this is a transport vessell,

if i am allowed on the vessell when the time comes, i look forward to meeting you and the others. untill then soak it up and be the best you can be.

It was a waiting area. I had the impression that we were going to a specific place but not necessarily all to the same place. I don't think we all have the same jobs to do. I felt like we would go in small groups to do our "group" assignment.

Your idea is an interesting one. Thank you.

Originally posted by LuFri


I think that Waiting2 and NotThat are shepherds.
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Wow! That could be an ego thing! I hope not. We have both made a decision not to have followers. We prefer the invisable approach, to stay out of the limelight, to avoid being a guru to others.

That's not to say we avoid conflict totally. This week Waiting2 told drug dealing teens to leave a playground, and I told an old man not to whistle for his wife like he would for his dog, that she could die tomorrow and to treat her like he would miss her.

Originally posted by LuFri

In a different thread NotThat talks about taking food that was left by another. One of my “missions” is to provide food and shelter for travelers in a time of upheaval or persecution They would be individuals or small groups of no more than five staying for a day or two, then moving on. I am not sure what would cause the upheaval but some would be drawn (or lead) here and need assistance. Staying any longer than two days or groups of more than five would lead to detection but by what or who I am not sure. One way or another I don’t think that I would be in my present physical location at that time.

Yea, that was my original job. I left the house ready for other people when I went to the grey room. That was partly why I was so shocked to return to the house.

You describe it perfectly. Small groups of people quietly using the house for a day or two and then move on. I thought of it as an underground railroad of sorts. I, too, knew I would not be there.

When it didn't happen I thought perhaps I was mistaken and moved into a monastery.

Later I thought my job was to "hear" whoever it was I heard, and to pass on instructions.

Now, I assume I have no assigned job because I am in the wrong place.

Originally posted by LuFri


NotThat said in a post on page 14 that she was "Getting some unwanted attention in the middle of the night." Has anyone else had anything strange or unusual happen after posting to this thread?

I ran across the thread below and it may be of interest. Some of the replies are similar to those in this thread. I have not had a chance to read the entire thread or look into any of their other threads but they may be interesting to. Hope this helps.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Thanks for this thread. I read the first 7 or 8 pages and it does sound like some of the stuff we have posted here.

Those hearing a voice haven't had their expected event to occur either.

Originally posted by Surprised to be Here

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So the Grey Room - perhaps it was test run evacuation, or implanting 'knowledge' so that when this thing happened you and other people would be prepared.

Or perhaps it was all supposed to be like that and the packing clothes had no purpose other than as a test so They would know that you were following their suggestion techniques prior to being taken to the room.

It could have been a test run. Shortly before we went to the grey room I felt very strongly that a man we knew was going to pick us up in his car. He didn't show up. A few days after the experience I told him that I had needed him and he hadn't come. He cried. He told me the date and time of the grey room experience, and told me that he knew he was supposed to come to help me and he told God no.

So, I don't know what to make of that. Was this man supposed to join us in the grey room? Was he supposed to protect us from the experience of the grey room? Are there 2 different opposing groups?

The oddness of the whole thing just grows as I think of the other people who were on the fringes of my experience.

Originally posted by Paradoxos
i was in this space that was completely white where there was knowledge flowing around me from every direction

Somebody described this experience as being within God's blood. There is a sense of flowing in a stream with objects of different shapes and densities, and of being able to just reach out and grap a passing "gift". Knowledge comes to you as you float in the stream.

Originally posted by VonDoomen
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sometimes I get so peeved watching humanity. So many people are "zombies", as in, i dont feel they are conscious in the way that i am.

Sometimes I feel like I am the only adult in a sea of children.

Originally posted by Surprised to be Here
the film was called The Knowing.

Take out the scary music and rearrange a few things and that was our experience minus the rabbits.

Originally posted by NotThat
Sometimes I feel like I am the only adult in a sea of children.

This is a common but very very problematic image.

Children as children don't wage wars, pillaging, raping, torturing, killing everyone they see. And you know it.

Even when children do act insanely (and they very commonly do, in the current society), this is precisely insanity, and in the current society, almost always, directly or indirectly, because of adults, and previous problems repeated and accumulated, caused by other adults.

Even when it is really a case of an important unconsciousness, like cats "playing" with mice, killing them in the process, it has nothing to do in itself with children. It is precisely a lack of consciousness. A consciousness which could be far more developed, very early (of course, without pushing it in any way), if the adults did synthesize, organize, perfected, and massively diffused, the social knowledge developed through the ages.

The image of children, is trying to distance ourselves from the weight and complexity of the problems ("they are just immature"), and effectively putting this weight on the children, which does have important consequences on them (at the very least as teenagers starting to listen to world news, and to the comments on them).

Globally, this image even often comes from the "jealousy" of "the childhood times of blissful ignorance of the hardships of life", and thus trying to push the problems on them, as "revenge", with much "condescension", and even "contempt". Of course, all this is very erroneous. Most of us have had very difficult childhood in today society, ignorance cannot lead to fulfillment (which requires a profound consciousness, to experience life fully), life itself is not "hard", and could very well be easy, simple, and very happy, if properly managed. And of course, "jealousy" only comes from strong desire (everyone just wants to be happy, and this is of course very good), "revenge" only leads to more problems, and "condescension" and "contempt" only show the fear of feeling "inferior", "weak", and "vulnerable".

It is often also linked to various prejudices around "the egoist, greedy and violent human nature reflected in the behavior of children, which adults learn to control to live in society", which are very erroneous, and again, very mostly come from our historical problems. We are sentient and developed individuals, and this is our sole and only nature. The common idea of "egoism" is generally very contradictory, by very generally very directly leading to problems for us. "Greed" is a reaction to the fear of lacking, and effective lacking, in the current society of artificial scarcity. Violence is a very problematic and negative reaction to problems and previous violence. Notably in our current reality (it is a bit less problematic in the imagination, artistic works, video games, etc., although always very significant), all this distances ourselves always more from the full experience of sensations, sentiments, and emotions, which is directly linked to our nature.

Our problems are caused by lack of reflection, lack of reasoning, and lack of analysis, in front of fears, and because of these fears, when they are badly managed (although it sure is a very normal reaction, but we could manage them far far better). It has absolutely nothing to do with children.

I'm sure you at least meant it more "lightly", and I sure don't want you to feel "bad" about it, but it would really be good to avoid this image completely.

[edit on 23-4-2010 by Garjyk]