Natalee Holloway: The Case Reviewed

Please stay on topic

This is quickly devolving into name-calling and nastiness. If the thread continues like this, it will be closed.

reply to post by Byrd


Thank you for reminding us Byrd. In looking back, I should have just hit the alert on the post that was a clear attempt at derailing the thread. Sometimes, with an issue such as this, our emotions get the best of us.

VAN SUSTEREN: Where are the Kalpoe brothers? Are they still in Aruba? RENFRO: They are still in Aruba. VAN SUSTEREN: Do you see them? RENFRO: Not often at all. They have been also exonerated. They are no longer suspects in this case. They were released in December, 2007. VAN SUSTEREN: Does the prosecutor say that he expects that someday this case will be solved? RENFRO: Absolutely. Everybody in Aruba hopes that. And of course the prosecutor's office wants the case solved. But in this particular moment they've researched every single thing they could possibly do, and at this point there is not enough evidence to bring this to trial. VAN SUSTEREN: Julia, thank you, nice to talk to you. RENFRO: Thank you.

www.foxnews.com...

This was from February twelfth. It is the most recent thing I can find and from all I could find, everyone is scratching their heads. I believe our best bet is with those members who have decided to psychically find her. I remember a post from almost the beginning where someone saw her and there was writing of some sort going on between the people she was with. They were writing on eachother with black ink.

From Whateva69:

i feel she wears a white vale across her face she has lots of eyeliner on, she looks after the children, she protects them, she is the strongest of the women there. they paint on each others skin with black ink. everyone wears white, hard sand everywhere. cool house no glass on windows. she is smart she does as she is told.

Pursue this Whateva69!

From ripcontrol:

Here is what I am attempting to find her then have either her or her body brought home. I know it sounds insane but I only ask that you assume my intentions are benign.

Fantastic ripcontrol! Why not, no one else seems to know anything and if you can influence them do it!



[edit on 18-2-2010 by jackflap]

reply to post by Byrd


Yes thank you Byrd I appreciate the reminder and as JackFlap has stated sometimes our emotions get the better of us in such situations. However, since that is now over and we are back on topic, I agree with JackFlap in reference to early members posting about what they saw with Natalee. If any of you have seen anything more feel free to post it. The more posts we get the more attention this thread will gather and the more people will see it and perhaps someone will recognize her and bring her home!

reply to post by Simplynoone


Hey my old friend! Thank you so much for the kind words and support, as you know it is GREATLY appreciated. Glad to see that you stopped by and I hope you enkoy the older threads as well. I appreciate the prayers that you are sending to Beth Holloway's family and her daughter, they truly need them. And I have added MJ to the growing list of cases to make. Just be patient I will get an MJ thread going eventually and who knows maybe something will turn up that is beyond interesting....

CASE CLOSED?

Jourdan Van der Sloot has confessed to killing American student Natalie Holloway. Halloway was on a school graduation trip to Aruba when she went missing on May 30, 2005. According to Van Der Sloot's confession he killed her and dumped her body in a swamp.

Source

I made my first attempt at a "breaking news" post. There are a few more articles posted there. I am still really looking through it all as I jumped on this as soon as I saw the first article. I was just so shocked.

Man Admits to Killing Natalee Holloway?

I will say this, this girl isn't innocent like her friends and family want people to believe.
Senior week, the week after graduation=party.
The good kids go volunteer somewhere or stay home, and not go to Aruba.
She was at Carolos and Charlies. You ONLY GO to Carlos and Charlies if you plan on party hard. That is their reputation. You see people literally crawling drunk from there. If any "innocent" girl is gonna hang somewhere, they don't go to Carlos and Charles where they literally will pour shots down your throat.

I have seen so many families defend their girls reputations, totally clueless. And I will see their daughters with beers and hiked skirts at some point.

I will wage 2,000 at points that:
she partied hard, wanted to have sex on the beach. She either got ill on alcohol poisoning, or accidently drowned. The boy or boys got scared and tried to cover it up. Her body was given to the ocean.

They had no need for murder. They did not fit any profiles. It was a teenage lust on the beach gone bad. Simply put.

reply to post by nixie_nox


Ouch! Seems like a rather harsh assessment. For whatever she did, sowing a few wild oats, or whatever, certainly didn't deserve the death penalty.

When I graduated from high school, I too, went on a trip. I wanted to have a good time, and I did. Death, however, wasn't on my agenda, even though I might have had a few "shots" myself.

What she did, or didn't do is irrelevant at this point, unless of course, he informed her beforehand he was taking her to the beach to drug, rape, and murder her, which is a more likely scenario.

Edit to add: I guess I am rather taking offense at "good girls volunteer, or stay at home." Wow. I think all of her senior class went on the trip, or most all of them. So I think to label them all "bad girls", is a mistake.
In my life, everyone goes on a big trip after graduation. I was a "good girl" then, and I still am.

[edit on 2/23/2010 by ladyinwaiting]

reply to post by ladyinwaiting


I wasn't trying to label her and I certainly don't think she deserved her fate. That wasn't what I was trying to say.

I just think that she probably wanted to have some fun and get bragging rights about having sex on the beach and something happened and he accidently killed her. Maybe they were in the surf and he or she passed out. Who knows.

But a part of the story that is always brought up is that she isn't the type of girl to go places with strange boys or party. But the circumstances pretty much show she was a party girl. You would have to be drunk to get into a car with three guys you didn't know in another country.

Where I come from, senior week is just about partying it up. But maybe other areas are more about just vacationing. Which I think is nice.

[edit on 23-2-2010 by nixie_nox]

reply to post by nixie_nox


Okay! Thanks for clarifying that. I didn't think that sounded much like the nixie-nox who's posts I am used to reading.

She obviously made a poor judgment call. Trusted someone she should not have trusted, and probably wouldn't have in the sober light of day.

reply to post by TheMythLives


Here's a new story from al.com.

blog.al.com...

Originally posted by 1curious1
reply to post by TheMythLives

 

Here's a new story from al.com.

blog.al.com...

Thanks for that. Now if only someone started a thread about this Dutch interview and posted a link to it before you offered this information (like this one) we would be all set.



[edit on 26-2-2010 by K J Gunderson]

As reported earlier his week, Van der Sloot allegedly made the second confession during an interview last August with the German news agency RTL. The alleged confession details the death of Holloway, an American teen who disappeared on a trip to Aruba five years ago. RTL said it didn't air the interview because it doubted its veracity.

Yet another supposed confession from Van Der Sloot. What a great story teller, huh?

According to the tabloid, Van der Sloot names an accomplice and says the pair took Holloway to a friend's house, where they drank and used drugs. Holloway then purportedly climbed up onto the rim of a balcony and began dancing.

"They both had just taken some coke." Van der sloot allegedly says. "I think she was pretty drunk, so she was just kind of dancing a striptease."

Van der Sloot says he walked over to Holloway and grabbed her by the hips, Telegraaf reports, at which point she "fell" from the balcony.

"We looked down and saw her lying there. Yes, there was blood. I think she fell on the ground with her head first." Van der Sloot is quoted as saying. "Her chin was to one side and I turned it the other way. There was blood on the ground too. There was no life."

Van der Sloot says he hid Holloway's body in a swamp because he was afraid of being prosecuted for the crime, the Telegraaf reports.

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Makes one wonder if the body really is in the swamps. Either way they need to check, what do they have to lose?

With all of these diverse stories he constantly churnes out, I have to suspect he is a psychopath. He has demonstrated no morality, and not even a semblance of consistancy. People like him get through lie detector tests. I say waterboard him.

reply to post by TheMythLives


Good grief. So, the only thing we can be 100% sure of, is that Van Der Sloot is a coward and a liar.

All these stories......this last one is completely outrageous and infuriating. An accidental death. A drunken suicide during the course of a strip tease on a balcony. All this, and no witnesses. Right. No human being around anywhere to be seen with the decency to call an ambulance.

I wish they would put him in the same cell with O.J.

reply to post by ladyinwaiting


And I really meant it as a warning to parents. I have seen it so many times, parents have a pristine image of their children that kind of blinds them. Should you gps your kids? No. But to automatically assume they are always clean isn't right either. They have their ups and downs no matter how smart, cute, good, bad they are.
And I feel awful for her parents, not knowing what happened to her. I think not knowing is worse then knowing and having a body to bury. Like those parents whose little girl disappeared on vacation.

I think about this woman now and then. Her son just disappearing off the face of the Earth.

awful.


incredibleshrinking woman

reply to post by SteveR


Actually the scarey part about that is that if this is the case, it could mean he has no idea and wasn't a witness alltogether.

Joran didn't confess to killing her.

He said she was dancing on the balcony and she fell when he tried to grab her to prevent her from falling.

Yes, he came up with all these stories, but why would he be lying about this, and about dumping the body, since he already was off the hook, why would he make this up?

Dutch tv used the interview and showed it to an American voice analist who was pretty sure that he was speaking the truth about how she died at least.

reply to post by Point of No Return


I would like to think "why would he come out with this when he was in the clear?" but this kid already made me do that with confessions 2-6 so I do not think we are dealing with an average sensible human being here. Then again, he is still just a kid.

The underwater photograph of the sea floor depicts a rough outline the couple believes resemble a human skeleton, according to the Intelligencer Journal/Lancaster New Era, which first published the photo on Thursday.

Patti Muldowney, 62, of Rapho Township, Pa., took the photo while snorkeling off the Caribbean island but "only discovered it after we got the film developed," she told the paper of the body-shaped image in the picture.

Patti and her husband John showed the photograph to local police and forwarded it to FBI, who told them they would investigate.

Skeleton Remains?

This could be it guys/gals, who knows. These could be the remains of Holloway on the bottom of the ocean floor. That is if it is even a skeleton, it could be some reef. Who knows, but one thing is for sure they need to investigate to make sure.

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