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Shocking: New Zealand and Australia are out of their place on the map

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posted on Apr, 21 2010 @ 03:32 AM
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This map explaines the confusion i think

www.gracegalleries.com...

I have already posted this but people seem to be missing it and i will continue to reply and post this map as it is a great example of how a map can misleading. New Zealand is there in this map because it is easier to enlarge it on the empty side of australia



posted on Apr, 21 2010 @ 03:32 AM
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This map explaines the confusion i think

www.gracegalleries.com...

I have already posted this but people seem to be missing it and i will continue to reply and post this map as it is a great example of how a map can misleading. New Zealand is there in this map because it is easier to enlarge it on the empty side of australia



posted on Apr, 21 2010 @ 04:01 AM
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We have covered this idea a number of times and I think people are well aware that some misconceptions come from mapping, however you are completely missing the point.

The theory is that when a timeslip or dimension change occurs EVERYTHING changes, All of history, all the books, maps, photos etc. So producing an old map to explain it is no use, of course ALL maps in this reality will prove the same thing.

If a person who thinks things are out of place could return to the reality of their memory, grab a map, and come back here, you would see a totally different map to what we have here.

It seems a lot of people are having difficulty comprehending this concept.

And to those saying that land masses cannot move, no one is saying they have moved, they are saying that (for example) NZ was in a different place and in THEIR reality it has ALWAYS been in that different place.

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posted on Apr, 21 2010 @ 06:20 AM
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I'm not trying to dispute the fact that timeline changes are possible, not at all. But i think the Australia and New Zealand part may be stemming from some map confusion that's all.
That map i posted is pretty clear that if someone wasnt paying attention and saw a map like that and then years passed and saw another they would feel conflicted about past memory.

Other things about certain being living when they shouldnt be i can't explain.
How would a timeline shift be local or only effect a small percentage. What would cause it to be selective? What makes person A different from person B.

I get the fact that if it did happen i would not know because i would be from the new timeline being in Australia.
Are you saying everyone in the states is effected or only some? How is this possible?

[edit on 21-4-2010 by Havick007]



posted on Apr, 21 2010 @ 08:10 AM
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You do know seriously that New Zealand was settled by English colonist back in the 1800's, right, that explains the caucasians living there.



posted on Apr, 21 2010 @ 09:20 AM
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I agree that the NZ thing is more than likely map confusion, it being on the wrong side of aus seems to only come from non aussie's or NZ'ers, but even some aussie's thought it was further north and closer to us.

I have a theory I've been trying to find evidence for, but I just can't seem to find what I need.
I believe any maps over 20 years old just didn't have things like islands shown exactly where they should be.
I've noticed islands and coastlines in many places don't look like what I remember from school. Now that we can take pictures from space we are getting much more acurate maps.

But even older maps I have found online all show everything in the right place, so I dunno anymore, I'm sure my memory isn't that bad (it works perfectly for anything else
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posted on Apr, 21 2010 @ 09:37 AM
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Is this some sort of LOST viral campaign of some sort? Seriously...Australia, alternate realities, timeline changes...

If it's not, it only sets back the conspiracy movement that people like the OP are in serious mode whilst believing in all of this.



posted on Apr, 21 2010 @ 12:35 PM
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I have changed timelines or moved to a different World. Australia is now 3000 miles West of its original position. It should also be 1000 miles further south.



posted on Apr, 21 2010 @ 01:12 PM
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Originally posted by jonburrows
I have changed timelines or moved to a different World. Australia is now 3000 miles West of its original position. It should also be 1000 miles further south.


I think you're confusing it with Antarctica!



posted on Apr, 21 2010 @ 01:19 PM
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It blows me away how people would rather think the timeline or the world has changed than just admit:
their knowledge of geography is less than stellar.



posted on Apr, 21 2010 @ 01:52 PM
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Originally posted by jonburrows
Never heard of Pillar of Hercules because they never existed. To tell you the truth, Africa was 2000 miles south of its current location. As for Atlantis, ive heard the name but it was never considered to be a real place. I just want to say this, I died in my previous World because of some scientific accident (LHC? Black Holes?) and was shifted into this new one. I'm a spiritual person and my memories remain. The fact that Billy Graham is alive in this World is all the evidence I need to prove that multiple Worlds exist.


How odd. Both Nelson Mandela and Billy Graham were both born in 1918.

How strange that these people remember them as dead. Could there be something to this odd link. Maybe they could look for other people born then and see if they too are alive. Just a thought.



posted on Apr, 21 2010 @ 03:11 PM
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Yeah but maps have been only more prevelant the past couple of years, brfore google earth i would hadly ever look at an atlas. Now i spend hours on google Earth and more on Google Mars


It's a hard topic to prove this one



posted on Apr, 21 2010 @ 03:33 PM
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I flew from Auckland to Brisbane in May of 08. The flight took about 3 1/2 hours at approx 400mph. Sounds like about 1250 miles to me



posted on Apr, 21 2010 @ 03:37 PM
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I remember clearly that NZ was just Nort East of Australia and Australia where located way SE of current position.

I'm one of those who loved geography as a child so there is nothing wrong with my geography skills. I also aren't dumb as i have tried 2 times the Mensa test, but failed both times (IQ around 130)
This has to do with something i don't understand and are confused about the whole situation.

As people have suggested there should be a place on the board for Timelines and so on. There will never be a serious discussion about this topic before that happens. There are to many ignorant people here for that to happen. So i rather choose to stay away from these post so i don't get ridiculed...i ain't worth the stress, but here i am anyway just to make a point.



posted on Apr, 21 2010 @ 04:08 PM
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Originally posted by Havick007
reply to post by mateandbucky06
 


This map explaines the confusion i think

www.gracegalleries.com...

I have already posted this but people seem to be missing it and i will continue to reply and post this map as it is a great example of how a map can misleading. New Zealand is there in this map because it is easier to enlarge it on the empty side of australia


You obviously have failed to understand what people have been posting. This map does not explain the confusion in mine and a number of others due to the fact that in our memories New Zealand was situated to the North East of Australia.

And my map reading skills are more than adequate.



posted on Apr, 21 2010 @ 04:08 PM
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I've always been mad keen on maps and atlases, probably because I got zip chance of seeing the rest of the world in person. Australia is just too damn far away from anything for sightseeing. (if you're broke, like me lol )

Before google I was looking at online maps and before that the library, I even own an atlas


It's impossible to prove either way, but I still think it's the maps that are different not the actual places.

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posted on Apr, 21 2010 @ 04:36 PM
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hi - what margin or error do you have in mind when you state that ilsand sec are not in EXACTLY the same place on maps / charts over 20 years old ?

100m , 500m , 1km , 2km , 5km , 10,km , 20km , 50km , more ?

i assume you are meaning charts / maps compliled pre satalite maping / GPS and such digital

while you are correct , the ` errors ` are often minimal - and certainly not sufficent for laypersons to ` spot the errors `

i will admit to ` cherry picking ` - but the brittish admiralty charts from the WWII era and the USN charts [ same era ] are prime examples

they chart islands to a high degree of accuracy -as i say - so accurate that a lay person would not ` spot the error `



posted on Apr, 23 2010 @ 05:18 AM
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I just think most discussion's in theis thread are pointless. Instead of talking what may or may not have changed but do you start trying to investigate what could cause a timeline shift on a small percentage of people.
I still think it's unlikely a timeline change would only be noticable to small group of people, unless your time travellers

I beleive in timeline shifts etc.
Think about this, ok so we have this timeline now, if i was to travel back and stop WW2 from happeneing that would be great yes? Now everyone in this timeline isnt gonna suddenly snap and not rememmber WW2 and relatedlandmarks dissapear etc. Millions of people would seddenly be alive again or there decendants.
Now for me the traveller i know it has changed and everyone in the timeline i have travelled too knows it's changed. Now left that era and returned to the future i would be in the new timeline. I have created a point of no return as soon as i made any change to the past. So when i travel back to the future from the changed past i am travelling to the future of that timeline. The only around that would be to transverse timelines( if possible )

But how could some people have swapped timelines? Are you the result of some experiment? Maybe You were abducted and they put you back in the wrong timeline, but then there would be 2 of you in one timeline.

Answer me that, if you have changed timelines, where is the original you from this timeline?
You are saying you are from an alternate timeline/universe yeah? So where is the original you. Before you came to this timeline you must have also existed here parollel to your own timeline, otherwise yuor friends wouldnt know you same for family, work, history etc.



posted on Apr, 23 2010 @ 09:01 AM
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i have viewed this website for many years, and i finally clicked the join button just so i could respond to the OP. I have to say, i have not laughed so hard in a long time.
Being born in Australia, i can assure you that it has not moved, nor has the orientation of New Zealand, or their proximity to Indonesia/Southeast Asia

I know that Americans have a reputation for being stupid....but even I am shocked

What on earth are people being taught overseas?



posted on Apr, 23 2010 @ 12:26 PM
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This attitude is exactly why people who want to discuss this topic don't discuss this topic. Ignorant people who just read the first post and start to piss on people and call them stupid. This is hopeless.




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