Shocking: New Zealand and Australia are out of their place on the map

Cheers - I think I have got it now

Here is the Proof...

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reply to post by FreedomCorps


nice MS paint job buddy, get the hell out, your a hoaxer and should be ashamed. Get a life

reply to post by Havick007




That is truly uncalled for and i really do hope a modferator sees that post ASAP.

Shame on you man!

reply to post by thehumbleone


How then, you tell us how it happens, of you are so sure they occur buddy???

Your all full of crap, i cannot believe this thread is still going it should have been sent to the skunkworks forum, it stinks of skunk.

What a waste of webspace, after all this discussion none of can discuss why it may occur or try to investigate. You cant admit that you may have a had a lame education. 70% of Americans would be able to find america on a map due to the horrible public school system, and yet you wonder why you cant find australia or think NZ is the wrong place.

It is a joke and ATS should have scrapped this thread long ago. If a timeline shift happened it would have happened worldwide or at a singular level not to a select group of delirous attention seekers. Get a life and focus on more reliable subjects and dont waste ATS member time and ATS webapce you clowns.... arrh how fustrating, no wonder people here get a bad name, it's you pople that give the rest of us a bad name.

Yes for christ sakes Nelson Mandella is alive, the only reason you noticed is because of that new movie. There are thousands of influential figures that are alive or dead that most of you ignorant Americans havent even heard of because you are all too self centered and dont have aclue what is happening outside your own country.

All the statements on this thread just show your stupidity and rather than admit ignorance you claim something supernatural is happening.
I can tell you this, if a timeline shift had happened, you wouldnt have clue as it would happen to a past version of yourself and that timeline is gone.

Conciousness is seperate but you wouldnt know the difference. Lame thread and unbelievable that it has managed to obtain to many flags,stars and pages.....what a joke and a low point for ATS!!

reply to post by Rising Against


This whole thread is uncalled for and should have been pulled a long time ago.

Wher did you get that map, where is the link to the original????

Where did you find it?? You know why you didnt link it to an original, because you did it yourself... yeah??

Let me tell you this, if you had somehow merged from a different timeline, you wouldnt be able to find that map, and you dont get that do you? so you just totally stuffed yourself up. The only place you got that map was from the dellusions in your head

reply to post by FreedomCorps


Lmfao - What a fake. Get a life. That is the most obvious fake. As i said just above if you came from some alternate timeline that map would not exist. Your tripping!!!

reply to post by Rising Against


Nooo, Shame on you, what a fraud!!

reply to post by Havick007


Errrrrr You have me confused with someone who believes in this suppose" timeline shift"

You are completely wrong here my friend as I personally think this thread belongs in the hoax forum or better yet the trash bin but hey that’s just me so please don't assume something about me before knowing all the facts.

Although as far as I know the reason you are believing this is because of my last post (the reason I believe this is because you have replied to it) but I posted what I posted not because i believe in this story (as i have already mentioned) but because i believe your post is something which is what is holding all of us back from what we are here for in the first place which is to find truth and we IMO will only achieve that is we are actually civil in the way we approach these topics otherwise it’ll just turn into a massive shouting contest where nothing is gained.

So you can add me a as foe (like you already have done) if you like as I simply don’t mind but please do at least try and know all the facts in the future before jumping the gun like you have done here.

reply to post by Rising Against


I'm not holding anyone back, look at my thread's, i aint some skeptic or hate monger. This thread makes me angry because it is a joke. I posted an example of how some NZ maps are printed in the west side of aus for map convienience.
Yet people wont accept that. I live in Aus and have seen those style maps many times growing up because this is my region. Do you think growing up i saw many maps of the USA or it's island's... not as many as here.

People just dont get it. Did you see my post and link to how some older maps and atals maps have been set out. It's not the NZ was actually on the west coast, it's map was displayed there on a map for layout reason's.

But instead of accept that, people here being ATS want to make an issue and something paranormal about what they remember from 10-15 yrs ago. Come on geeeez

P.S. Apologies i may have jumped the gun, foe removed

[edit on 28-4-2010 by Havick007]

Quote: "The only place you got that map was from the dellusions in your head"


Umm Yeah, and thanks to 2 minutes using Gimp. _javascript:icon('')

C'mon lighten up everyone. The 'photoshopped' (actually 'Gimp'd') image was from a screenshot from google earth, duplicated, flipped, cropped and brushed to see what New zealand would look like if it was on the other side. Proof of one mans input and learning from his perceptions of what this man thought to be outrageous.

That being said, when I was a teenager, I thought I knew everything. I now know I know nothing. So who am I to say what is wrong or what is right, as what I consider wrong somebody else may consider right, and what I may consider to be wrong today, I may consider to be wrong tomorrow. Only through these examples of interaction am I able to best learn from my perceptions, and the perceptions of others.

I apologise if i offended anyone with the 'Proof' picture, for which I take full responsibility for manipulating and posting, however I take no responsibility for anyone s reactions to my actions.

Thankyou.

reply to post by FreedomCorps


Look you just gotta be careful how you labell pics and post's. Look at this pic below, now i could easily say wow this is proff, but it is not, it is an old map that has NZ on the West side of Aus due to map convienience and outlay.

Answer me this truthfully, if you saw this map a couple of times 5-10 years ago, would your memory be conflicted?

www.gracegalleries.com...

Just look carefully and remember this is not how it was but only how the map was layed out. Before Google Earth and many omline sources mant maps and atlas's had this layout on single page layouts for easy viewing. It took me about 5-10 minutes to find this map.
Just try to think outside the box and outside the US in sense. How hard did you really study AUS and NZ region's???

Why do you think WE ALL have had "very" old maps in our schools and homes...???

WE have had updated maps all of our life...and i don't think it can be blamed on old maps anymore....WE are to many with the same memories.

WE where 98 when i made the new thread, but now WE are well over 100
with at least 5 Australians on the list.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

reply to post by LastStandingMan


I moved to New Zealand in 2004 and then moved back to the states in 2008. Im looking at a map from the early 90's and its exactly how you described it.... New Zealand was never to the North West of Australia. Although NZ might be moving due to the continental plates moving, I highly doubt you would ever realize this as it takes millions of years for it to move just a few miles.

reply to post by Snowi


It;s just old maps it is alot of maps that have NZ to enlarge it and focus on it as well as Australia.

reply to post by kick Flip


It's is and in about 30 million years it will colide with Australia's East coast.

reply to post by Snowi

WE where 98 when i made the new thread, but now WE are well over 100 with at least 5 Australians on the list.

Yes, but just because you have more people believing in something that doesn't mean it automatically because true does it.

I'm a disbeliever because I see no real evidence to believe in it at all.

And if you find people who have then that's great and I'd love to see the evidence and have my opinion changed.

EDIT: to clarify who i was replying to.


[edit on 28-4-2010 by Rising Against]

Originally posted by Havick007
reply to post by Snowi

 

It;s just old maps it is alot of maps that have NZ to enlarge it and focus on it as well as Australia.

Prove it...you can't....

WE have never used ancient maps....never...so stop showing us ancient maps...only updated, because we can't be imprinted with a memory of Australia being in a different spot just by glancing for 10 sec. on an ancient map once in our lifetime.

reply to post by Havick007


Quote:
"Just try to think outside the box and outside the US in sense. How hard did you really study AUS and NZ region's???"



Not wanting to justify or prove anything, rather for the sake of clarification -

I was born, raised, and still live in Australia. New Zealand is our neighbor, and by many Australians New Zealand is not considered a foreign country. Yes we 'take the piss' out of each other, but like family, If New Zealand was in trouble, there would be no hesitation to jump in and do what we could and Visa Versa (like sibling rilvary).

That being said, It would be fair to say that my education on this part of the globe, would be at a similar level (assumption) to the education received by somebody born, raised and living in living in, lets say the USA, in relation to the 'Americas' geography.


Posting of the comment "proof" along with a dodgey image I manipulated, was intended as light hearted humor what we in Australia call: "taking the piss"

For the record, The current layout of the Australia and New Zealand are exactly as I remember, the thought of it being any different would go against my perceptions of reality.

Here is a map from 1935 where New Zealand (on the Map) is located on the Left hand side of Australia.



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Why do I continue to read, and even contribute to something that, to me is ridiculous?

I find it curious that something so 'ridiculous' in my perception has continued to hold my attention. Therefore, I give this crazy discussion some merit.

Hooray for Everything!

reply to post by FreedomCorps


From that Map New Zealand is on the right of Australia, not the left like you have said.

That's why on the left hand side map it's on the far left of the page and on the right hand map Australia is on the far right.

So to clarify If you turned them both around slightly you would see New zealand on the right side of Australia not the left like you have claimed.