Former Chinese official sees 'dark clouds'

This is hilarious.

The mighty US military invaded Iraq, a broken down little sand pit, that was already totally destroyed militarily by the fifty combined counties of the UNITED NATIONS that squashed Iraq flat very quickly in Gulf War One.

So the mighty US went back into Iraq for Gulf War Two aided only by Britain, with 160,000 battle troops and all the latest technology and weaponry to fight a few civilian insurgent survivors.

These insurgents, not even a proper military, with no air force, no heavy equipment, no satellite technology has totally held the entire US military at bay for SEVEN YEARS.

America will never win against little Iraq, it has no hope, while Iraq is being supported with aid by the whole world.

So America is going to take on China, Russia, and India all together, huh ?

If nuclear weapons are NOT used, the US military is toast.

If nuclear weapons ARE used, the entire North American Continent will become a desolate radioactive wasteland.

win in Iraq ? - what's there to win ? It could easily be a case of massive graft.

As far as China goes it's all back alley deals between leaders - Japan is not going to want to be between us and them so they will likely pick a side, 60 years ago they dominated China by themselves - Taiwan would support us too South Korea - Australia - India and probably 70% of all the rest of the nations. Russia can barely hold itself together it doesn't need a real war.

Actually the second handed nature they talk with about the deficit going to 28 trillion in the next decade has me convinced the world will probably end in 2012 and they no longer give a #.

Originally posted by Silver Shadow
This is hilarious.

The mighty US military invaded Iraq, a broken down little sand pit, that was already totally destroyed militarily by the fifty combined counties of the UNITED NATIONS that squashed Iraq flat very quickly in Gulf War One.

So the mighty US went back into Iraq for Gulf War Two aided only by Britain, with 160,000 battle troops and all the latest technology and weaponry to fight a few civilian insurgent survivors.

These insurgents, not even a proper military, with no air force, no heavy equipment, no satellite technology has totally held the entire US military at bay for SEVEN YEARS.

Except that's not what happened. In the cease-fire conditions agreed to by Iraq they were to keep within an established no-fly zone. There was also a set oil sales procedure agreed on.

Saddam Hussein flagrantly abused these agreements and was selling oil under the table at deep discount to German,y France, and Russia. He was exchanging for weapons. He was also engaging in an illegal biological weapons program.

One week before the US and and affiliates went back in a Russian convoy hastily transferred the forbidden material to Syria, where it may still be today.

The myth has become embedded the US invaded Iraq just for it's oil.
It is endlessly cheaper to negotiate a preferred price than to go in and take over a country. This is, in fact, what France, Germany, Russia and China were already doing.

Note instead of sending in handlers, the Iraqis were given an opportunity to set up their own democratic government and elect their own leaders.

As it turns out, the Iraqi government is not particularly sympathetic to the US and it's Shiite majority regime is aligning itself with Iran.
Oil contracts are being put into the marketplace and the US has been outbid.

So much for Mean Old USA invaded poor innocent Saddam Hussein's Iraq.






[edit on 6-2-2010 by mmiichael]

Originally posted by Nomad451


Well, I have to honestly admit I see a lot of "dark clouds" but not just on the US-China front, but everywhere.

I know war is hyped up a lot on ATS, but can we honestly deny any longer that our world is traveling down a VERY dangerous path at the moment?

We have this issue with the Chinese and relations are deteriorating pretty quickly..

We have the Iranian nuclear issue very probably and seemingly coming to a head after so long, with a final push for sanctions and the build up of arms in the gulf to "defend" against Iranian missile attacks?

C'mon, Iran haven't made a first strike EVER as far as I know... Why is the US certain enough that Iran will lash out and attack gulf countries and Israel? Could it be perhaps the Obama admin KNOWS a first strike on Iran is coming soon, and thats where the Iranian attack will come from? I think so.

Israel and Hezbollah, Iran and Syria... News stories coming out now of very high tensions along the Israel border and the high probability of a war breaking out very soon.

I believe 2010 is shaping up to be the year it all happens

www.cnn.com
(visit the link for the full news article)

2010 is the Year of the Tiger. Check it out.

Just like 1940 (also year of the tiger) was when WW2 escalalted from limited warfare to total war, we might see a similar scene take place in 2010.
2012 is, incidentally, the year of the dragon! China rising perhaps?

Originally posted by mmiichael

Saddam Hussein flagrantly abused these agreements and was selling oil under the table at deep discount to German,y France, and Russia. He was exchanging for weapons. He was also engaging in an illegal biological weapons program.

You are mostly correct, Saddam was selling oil to Europe for EUROS, and not US dollars. This totally undermined the US dollar monopoly America MUST ENFORCE militarily.

America was holding a gun at the head of the entire world by forcing trade in oil to occur in only two places, London and New York, and strictly for US dollars only.
Any nation that tried to sell oil to any other nation outside this US monopoly was declared a terrorist nation.

But the Europeans were delighted to buy oil from Iraq in Euros.
When Bush tried to get the UN to invade Iraq a second time, based on the WMD lie, he was just laughed at.
Everyone knew the truth (except the American public)

So the fifty (mostly) European nations that comprise the United Nations, told Bush to go take a long walk off a short pier.
That is why the fifty UN member nations that participated in Gulf War One, stayed Right out of Gulf War Two.

Bush was ranting about "the coalition of the willing" but that existed only in his own head. Only the equally corrupt war criminal Tony Blair went into Iraq with war criminal George W. Bush. But Americans believed it was some huge world crusade against terror being led by Bush.

Anyhow....

After Iraq, Iran did the exact same thing, opened a THIRD oil trading bourse in Iran and sold oil to China and Europe not in US dollars, but other currency. This is what originally led to Bush threatening a pre emptive strike against Iran. It had nothing to do with enriching uranium, it was all about enforcing the US dollar oil monopoly.

Saddam will go down in history as the man that broke the US dollar world monopoly on world oil trade, which will lead on to the crash of the US dollar and the breaking of America as a world power.

It cost him his life, but he will be remembered as the bad guy, that destroyed the entire evil and totally corrupt US Empire.

The completely free world trade in oil that now exists, owes Saddam a very great debt.

He stood up to bully terrorist America and freed up the world trade in oil.

Pirate America can no longer rob other nations at gun point when we buy and sell oil to each other. That is true freedom of trade at work, and the world as as whole, will benefit from it hugely.

One week before the US and and affiliates went back in a Russian convoy hastily transferred the forbidden material to Syria, where it may still be today.

Yes much was removed from Iraq just before the US illegally invaded.
Almost the entire air force, and much other weaponry besides.
That included a lot of "made in America" chemical and biological weapons supplied to Iraq by Bush Senior when Iraq and Iran were at war with each other.

They may have been truly evil weapons of mass destruction, but they were also mostly if not all, SUPPLIED BY AMERICA.

The myth has become embedded the US invaded Iraq just for it's oil.
It is endlessly cheaper to negotiate a preferred price than to go in and take over a country. This is, in fact, what France, Germany, Russia and China were already doing.

Much disinformation and half truths in war.

But Bush did claim that occupying Iraq and stealing their oil was going to pay for the cost of invasion and occupation. It never did of course.

But the real reason of occupying Iraq was to put in place a puppet government, and reverse the selling of oil to Europe for Euros.
That is what the US did, almost immediately after they occupied Iraq.

So it really was all about oil, but the biggest reason of all was maintaining the entire world oil trade in US dollars.

Iraq broke the monopoly, and invading Iraq restored it shortly afterwards. Iran then broke it again, and now many countries trade oil directly such as Russia and China, giving the US the middle finger.

Bush (And Obama) cannot say Russia, China, Iran and Venezuela are all terrorist nations because they have broken the US monopoly, and will be attacked militarily. The US could only keep it up by picking off one small country at a time.

That is not now possible.

Note instead of sending in handlers, the Iraqis were given an opportunity to set up their own democratic government and elect their own leaders.

As it turns out, the Iraqi government is not particularly sympathetic to the US and it's Shiite majority regime is aligning itself with Iran.
Oil contracts are being put into the marketplace and the US has been outbid.

So much for Mean Old USA invaded poor innocent Saddam Hussein's Iraq.

The puppet Iraq government set up by the US, no longer lives in terror of their US masters. They have had a change of heart, and grown some balls. They want Blackwater and the US military OUT OF THEIR COUNTRY.

The entire world is now supporting Iraq with food, money, medical aid, infrastructure rebuilding, training, weapons and explosives.
The entire world will support whatever type of government the Iraqi people wish for.

The US should just go home and let the rest of the world try to continue repairing Iraq with aid and help it to get back onto it's feet.

America has no place there, offers nothing, and can never win or dominate Iraq, as long as the rest of the entire world is on the side of the Iraqi people against America.

You cannot beat us, we (the world) have infinitely more resources than America.



[edit on 6/2/2010 by Silver Shadow]

There is a problem with all the theories about war. First, you must view the world as if every country or nation is a company or business. China in recent years has transitioned from a completely Communist country in to a shadow of it's former self by accepting the Capitalistic views of the greater world. The majority of the World is generally capital in it's affairs, yes there are different political structures but it all comes down to money in the end.

China will not go to war with America unless they are guaranteed a win, it's a fact that China has loaned so much money to America that if we went to war they would officially lose that money. Secondly America isn't as stupid as most people think, we have insanely HUGE oil reserves that could sustain our nation for a very very long time. We also have HUGE reserves in metals, chemicals, technology, and more. If it actually came down to being self sufficient America has the ability and capacity, it would actually build up our economy extremely fast if we did have to become self sufficient. However, the governments at large don't want this to happen, the purpose and goal of the government is to remain in perpetual debt, without debt they can not request taxes, and without taxes the government could not exist. The creation of NAFTA and Free Trade Agreements around the world insured perpetual debt. We no longer have the ability to tariff, levy, and tax goods from foreign nations, causing the only income for the government to be taxes.

Sorry about going in to another spectrum but yes War is inevitable to make money, however no one wants a WW-III. And America vs. China = End Game so I doubt anyone really has a death wish. With the amount of Nuclear weapons that exist on this earth, no one and I mean no one even hidden under ground would survive. If that much havoc and destruction was caused I think even the Earth would revolt and make sure we all perished for the senseless destruction.

But then again this is my opinion, I may be wrong but it allows me to sleep at night.

I know there are agenda's and I know they talked about a population reduction and I know about a lot of the conspiracy theories and believe a great deal of them. However, I doubt a world war is really on the agenda.

I thought that Russia and China were great allies because of the Beijing-Moscow agreement. Does that have anything to do with anything or is it nothing to be concerned with?

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Michael, we are heading off topic very fast. Oil for food program again ? I have already told you that american companies were more than involved but you keep forgetting this information unconsciously...

Privacy Act, Order Shielded U.S. Names on List

The names on the politically explosive list are French, Russian, Chinese, Canadian and Japanese; if Duelfer had had his way, U.S. companies and individuals would have been included, too.

But he was overruled by CIA lawyers. The report instead lists some voucher recipients only as "U.S. person" and "U.S. company," explaining in a footnote that disclosure was barred by the 1974 Privacy Act and "other applicable law."

Halliburton Iraq ties more than Cheney said

The deal was legal, the Post said, and they showed how U.S. firms use foreign subsidiaries and joint ventures to avoid doing business with Baghdad. The practice is not a violation of U.S. law and falls within the U.N.-run oil-for-food program.

The Post said U.N. records showed that the dealings were more extensive than originally reported and than Cheney had acknowledged, however.

According to the report, the Halliburton subsidiaries, Dresser-Rand and Ingersoll Dresser Pump Co., sold material to Baghdad through French affiliates. The sales lasted from the first half of 1997 to the summer of 2000. Cheney resigned from Halliburton in August.

Senate Democrats Fault U.S. in Iraq Oil Scandal

The report presented Monday indicates that American imports of Iraqi oil helped finance about 52 percent of clandestine deals carried out illegally under the oil-for-food program at the time when Iraq was under United Nations sanctions.

It looked at kickback allegations against a Texas company, Bayoil USA, which was indicted in the investigation of the $67 billion oil-for-food program. The program allowed Iraq to sell oil to buy civilian goods for its people living under United Nations sanctions.

Bayoil executives pleaded not guilty last month to charges the company was part of a scheme to pay millions of dollars in kickbacks to Mr. Hussein in exchange for oil deals.

Records kept by the Iraqi Oil Ministry's State Oil Marketing Organization showed that Iraq collected about $228 million in surcharges from September 2000 to September 2002, the report said.

It contends that Bayoil ''facilitated'' about $37 million in illegal surcharges to Mr. Hussein and then engaged in lobbying efforts to influence the price of Iraqi oil and to oppose American efforts to stop the surcharges.

American Indicted In Iraq Oil Probe

A Texas oil executive, his two companies and two foreign associates were indicted Thursday on charges that they illegally paid millions of dollars to Iraqi officials in exchange for lucrative deals to buy discounted oil from the government of Saddam Hussein

The Quiet Oil-for-Food Scandal

You wouldn't know that from the modest coverage of this most interesting report. Most of the reporting has focused on the fact that many of the contracts went to French and Russian companies. The Washington Post's take was typical: "most of those allegedly receiving rewards were not Americans. The preponderance of lucrative contracts went to French and Russian companies, on the grounds that their governments opposed the sanctions regime and favored Iraq in the U.N. Security Council."

That's technically accurate but substantially false. In a global economy, distinctions between "American" or "French" companies are essentially a joke. The Volcker report paints a picture of layer upon layer of front companies and cut-outs, off-shore subsidiaries and hastily slapped together strategic partnerships: "Iraq's preference for French companies and the limited number of recipients in France for Iraqi crude oil led certain companies to pass themselves off ... as being French-based." The report cites a 1998 letter from a French official to an Iraqi official based in Paris, in which he expressed "his concerns and his government's concerns ... regarding the increase in British and American companies as well as others who exploit the decision of the Iraqi leadership in providing priority to conducting business with French companies by signing contracts with Iraq through their offices in France."

The UN oil-for-food program in Iraq: The real scandal

If the oil-for food program was bilked, it went on under the watchful eye of the world's main powers, especially the U.S. "Whatever critics may say, 'the UN bureaucracy' did not design a program that handed over cash to Saddam Hussein," Joy Gordon wrote in Harper's magazine last month. "The 15 members of the Security Council--of which the United States was by far the most influential--determined how income from oil proceeds would be handled, and what the funds could be used for."

For example, the GAO report charges that the Iraqi government smuggled $6 billion worth of oil out of Iraq--under the oil-for-food program administrators' watch. But the UN Multinational Interception Force charged with preventing smuggling on the seas is made up almost exclusively of U.S. ships--and is under the command of the U.S.'s Fifth Fleet.

In cases of overland smuggling to Jordan and Turkey, all that these U.S. allies had to do was ask. In 1991, Bush Sr.'s administration gave Jordan an exemption allowing it to import Iraqi oil in violation of the sanctions.

"The corruption evident in the oil-for-food program was real, but did not originate from within the United Nations, as Norm Coleman and others are charging," former UN weapons inspector Scott Ritter wrote in Britain's Independent newspaper. "Its origins are in a morally corrupt policy of economic strangulation of Iraq implemented by the United States as part of an overall strategy of regime change.

I am close to characters maximum...

You only want to rely on Volcker's report and avoid all the information, plenty, that is widely available on very established media sources. Facts were widely distorted for the american public with the help of this report. On purpose with a clear goal.

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The way you sound it would seem you wish saddam was still here. Lets not forget that saddam murdered thousands if not millions of his OWN people, but people seem to don't care about that since he's not Hilter.

Originally posted by Manouche
You only want to rely on Volcker's report and avoid all the information, plenty, that is widely available on very established media sources. Facts were widely distorted for the american public with the help of this report. On purpose with a clear goal.

Manouche,

I just pulled this out of the air to counter a point being made that I saw as clearly misinformed.

But you are right, and I am guilty of forwarding the same American political spin despite your previous correction.

Actually there is much more of a back story to going into Iraq than I've bothered to ever elaborate on. The Saudis and Turks essentially told the Americans and British it was a good move to outs Saddam and continue on the move to corner and intimidate Iran geographically.

A real missed opportunity, for a brief moment Iran was relieved Saddam was no longer breathing down their necks are tried to break the ice with the US. Rebuffed by the US they are still in overreaction mode.

Iraq did not need to become a battleground of Shiite and Sunni animosity backed by Iran and the Saudis. Bad diplomacy with the Bush admin clearly the culprits. Condoleeza Rice should go down in history as a disaster in foreign relations.


M




[edit on 7-2-2010 by mmiichael]

Originally posted by Alien Mind
reply to post by Silver Shadow

 

The way you sound it would seem you wish saddam was still here. Lets not forget that saddam murdered thousands if not millions of his OWN people, but people seem to don't care about that since he's not Hilter.

You mean like Waco, and Ruby Ridge ?

Yes no American would ever kill another American.
The US government would never build FEMA concentration camps.
The US government is NOT planning for martial law.
Morgellons and chem trails do not exist in America.
No American would ever even think of harming another American.

Trust in your US government, they can do no wrong.
Americans are stocking up on assault weapons and high performance ammunition for protection................. against other peace loving Americans.

If you read all of my post, what I actually said was Saddam was a BAD GUY that beat the evil US empire and freed up the world trade in oil.

International world trade is now more honest and free, the US has been beaten and broken, and Saddam did it..........

Never again will an American President be able to threaten military strike against any other nation that refuses to use US dollars in international trade.

Nations can now trade with each other in any currency they choose, without having a US carrier battle fleet attack their country, or being invaded and occupied by the US military.

That is true freedom, and thanks to Saddam that is the big change his actions against America have brought about.

While the world is gaining more freedom, Americans are getting less.

Think about that.................


[edit on 8/2/2010 by Silver Shadow]

Originally posted by Silver Shadow

Originally posted by Alien Mind
reply to post by Silver Shadow

 

The way you sound it would seem you wish saddam was still here. Lets not forget that saddam murdered thousands if not millions of his OWN people, but people seem to don't care about that since he's not Hilter.

You mean like Waco, and Ruby Ridge ?

Yes no American would ever kill another American.
The US government would never build FEMA concentration camps.
The US government is NOT planning for martial law.
Morgellons and chem trails do not exist in America.
No American would ever even think of harming another American.

Trust in your US government, they can do no wrong.
Americans are stocking up on assault weapons and high performance ammunition for protection................. against other peace loving Americans.

If you read all of my post, what I actually said was Saddam was a BAD GUY that beat the evil US empire and freed up the world trade in oil.

International world trade is now more honest and free, the US has been beaten and broken, and Saddam did it..........

Never again will an American President be able to threaten military strike against any other nation that refuses to use US dollars in international trade.

Nations can now trade with each other in any currency they choose, without having a US carrier battle fleet attack their country, or being invaded and occupied by the US military.

That is true freedom, and thanks to Saddam that is the big change his actions against America have brought about.

While the world is gaining more freedom, Americans are getting less.

Think about that.................


[edit on 8/2/2010 by Silver Shadow]

What i'm thinking about is you being a nutcase, Everything you've just said doesn't change the fact that Saddam commited genocide. It seems clear that you just simply hate america and that any debate with you is pointless.

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I think your missing the point and really is name calling really what this site is coming down to?

I think the point he/she was trying to make is that a good thing came about from an evil person.

The US/CIA urged Saddam to start a war with Iran. They supplied weapons, BIO/CHEM, intelligence, sat imagery, equipment to build Nuclear Weapon all hidden through cut-outs and dummy corps scattered around the world and manifests and packaging relabelled as to meet requirements under trading with an enemy or rogue state.

When the cat got out of the bag they pulled the plug, Kuwait skipped out on their deal to cover a big part of his war debt so he invaded them. If Kuwait did in fact make this deal with them and bailed?

Can you really blame Iraq for invading them?

This is what I believe led Saddam to move to Euro and other currency payments for oil. He knew the US would freak but I believe he thought he could either a)Win or b)Iraq would go down and become a martyr to the Muslim world and rally them against the US.

A large scale war in the ME is bad for everyone. Iran is not Iraq and will not be so easily SHOCKED AND AWED. US moral in the Armed forces is low. Suicides are up and climbing and if you throw them into a war with Iran and massive US casualties and any other nation that joins the US/Israel will quickly turn the tides in this war.

It seems fitting that the USAF announced this week that they had a successful test firing and intercept of a boost phase ICBM with the Boeing 747 airborne laser. Those might come in handy protecting Israel during the war.

China knows what's going on in this ongoing sherade(SP?). They have great intelligence capabilities and I think they are just easing their way into the big chair at the end of the long table.

ART OF WAR and the chinese are great chess players.

I got out of America just in time Atleast it is peaceful here in the Middle East. Us here in Jordan don't have to worry about an attack from Israel because we have pretty close ties to them and no one hates us We are like the world's friend and we are open to everyone

reply to post by Alien Mind

Sure Saddam committed genocide by killing fellow Iraqis, Iranians, and Kurds.
THOUSANDS of them were murdered or tortured.

But of course the US military has now killed 1.5 million+ Iraqis according to many reliable international sources. All of them called insurgents.
And let's not forget the horrors of Abu Gharib, Gitmo and rendition.

But of course the US only kills and tortures terrorists, which makes Americans heroes.
Saddam killed and tortured ordinary Iraqi citizens which is very very bad.

When the US government declares martial law, and starts killing and torturing American citizens, you will ALL be insurgents.
Insurrection is another word for civil war.
So you will all be insurgents, and get the same treatment as Iraqi civilians.

When a US marine kicks you to death, rapes you, connects up the wires to you, or blows your brains out, he will be fighting a noble war against terror.

Americans are all heroes. The US government can do no wrong.
Only foreign leaders like Saddam are bad guys.

Anyhow, as you will very soon discover all this for yourself, when the US economy implodes. and your Commander in chief reading his teleprompter, calls out the military to stop all the looting and rioting.

Remember the US military is NEVER WRONG, you deserved to die..

Originally posted by Silver Shadow

But of course the US military has now killed 1.5 million+ Iraqis according to many reliable international sources. All of them called insurgents.
And let's not forget the horrors of Abu Gharib, Gitmo and rendition.

"Those Reliable Sources" quote numbers that include all the sectarian violence, mosque bombings etc between Shia and Sunni. Not to mention Iran's contribution to the Iraq conflict by training and equipping insurgents. Needlessly extending the situation a full two years or more.

But of course the US only kills and tortures terrorists, which makes Americans heroes. Saddam killed and tortured ordinary Iraqi citizens which is very very bad.

You seem to be the only one here making the claim that Americans think they are heroes. Admit it, you simply hate the US. It boils your blood so you come online to get your rocks off slamming the US. You seem to have a real perverse obsession with the US that's your issue. What? Have they bombed your house?

When the US government declares martial law, and starts killing and torturing American citizens, you will ALL be insurgents.
Insurrection is another word for civil war. So you will all be insurgents, and get the same treatment as Iraqi civilians.

Paranoid conspiratorial Speculation, Assumptions and innuendo.

When a US marine kicks you to death, rapes you, connects up the wires to you, or blows your brains out, he will be fighting a noble war against terror.

You seriously need to lay off the Conspiracy sites. Take a walk, go for a jog. Here this may help with your afflication

Americans are all heroes. The US government can do no wrong.
Only foreign leaders like Saddam are bad guys.

Again with the [American Hero] You want to hear about an American Hero? My dad after he served his country came home and went to work. Paid his taxes and raised 5 of the 6 kids. [One brother died as a child] He worked hard, Played hard and busted his ass to give us a better life. Never once complained about giving everything he made for us kids. That's my hero!

Anyhow, as you will very soon discover all this for yourself, when the US economy implodes. and your Commander in chief reading his teleprompter, calls out the military to stop all the looting and rioting.

Yeah Yeah Yeah. We keep hearing about the "Great debuckle"
Remember the link I provided.

Remember the US military is NEVER WRONG, you deserved to die..

Drink the Kool-Aid


[edit on 14-2-2010 by SLAYER69]

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If you are right, America will remain a prosperous world superpower.

If you are wrong, America will be totally destroyed by gunfire and mental illness.

reply to post by Silver Shadow


You're funny! Ever consider taking that act on the road?

Seriously, man. Loosen up the hatband on your tinfoil hat, or take off the tinfoil jumpsuit, or something. Take a deep breath, try to think logically.

That 'American Military' you're so sure is going to stomp the US citizenry down... just who do you think that military is formed out of, as a subset of, to begin with? What pool do you think they get their operating manpower from?

Maybe you think they give these soldiers UN-happy pills, or "mean shots"? Feed 'em gunpowder to make 'em meaner than the average bear? What is it that you think sets your 'super soldiers' apart from the rest of us, including the vets that have already been there and done that?

Seriously, try to get some fresh air and a little sun. It will do you a world of good.

Sure, just as I said, the US military are made up of Americans, patriots and honorable men.
And I know that to be true.

Just like the police force.

We all know that no American police officer would ever lie about another American, or ever arrest a fellow American.

No police officer would ever beat or shoot a fellow American, it is just unthinkable,.

Cops are patriots and true Americans, just like the military..

So next time you open fire on a cop, you can be absolutely assured he will NEVER fire back unless he knows for sure you are a foreigner.

Likewise the US military will allow themselves to be shot at, fire bombed, blown up and killed by pissed off US civilians. They will just ignore it.

Somehow there is this illogical blind faith that the US military will never fire upon another American, even though their buddies around them are dying from sniper fire in the suburbs.

Such blind stupidity is just beyond belief.

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