I want Immortality

reply to post by DeepSea


right and I answered with my own questions which are still my answers

I have yet to see a single thing that would make this possible

-looks a few posts up-

Clearly I am not alone in my thinking

-Kyo

reply to post by concernedcitizan


I only care about my own ambitions. Why? because i cannot expect to reach my goals by focusing on others people goals. Plus, others' ambitions are usually the same # again and again love happiness peace and madness. I want to go beyond that. I don't need to justify my existence to anyone else but myself. If you mean happiness should be one's main motive to live, i answer seeking such thing will only bring you more despair.

To the OP again... conciousness is a common trait amongst individuated forms of physical existence. First understand you have no physical reality and all your senses tell you, is in fact illusion, and concious intelligent infinity is indeed the only reality then immortality will be yours, and mine.

But the physical world really does exist. Probably different from what i see and feel with my senses but it is not an illusion. You just want to believe this way so it is easier for you to go on. But its not a bad dream or nightmare, the world of matter is as real as the world after death (we suppose there is one). You do fear to be only a dust in an infinite world amongst infinite worlds without any prepurpose right? I don't.

reply to post by Sinter Klaas

If boredom is a problem just choose goals way beyond your capability and do anything to reach it. Anyways, there are permanent goals that never end like survival.

The only way to bear a great bliss/burden like Immortality is to not be attached to anything but held dear to your precious and valuable things. Someone that cant accept the disappearance and death of something he cared for, cannot be Immortal, he would become mad. Think about this, what would be the best way to live:
-reject of a reality full of regret when you loose something or
-instant acceptance of the reality and capability to go on whatever may happen without any regrets?

If you want to become immortal than I have just the thing for you my friend. I want you to google Monatomic Gold. It was Used in egypt and was lost for thousands of years, But I don't know much on the subject. What I can tell you, is that apperantly when ingested, The Monatomic substance will fuse with your DNA and your organs, and it is said to restore all of it, And is what some people now believe is the reason ancient peoples were able to live for soo long. It has been called the elixer of life. I have a preposition for you though. I can see how you would want to live for a while in order to accomplish things, But this world, This physical world, "earth", It's temporary. I hate this world for the fact that people nowadays are ignorant, blind, and all around stupid. I look forawrd to the afterlife because there is no limitations. THere are constant limitations in this world, and yet we except that. Also, technically you are immortal because the spirit, the soul, consciousness, what ever you want to call it, It never dies. That's how you are able to be reincarnated, and become a ghost and all that. The reason we can't remember is because it's a different brain, soo all the memory was lost in your previous brain. That's why reincarnation wouldn't be the way to go. But Research Monatomic Gold and you will find your answer.

reply to post by EnlightenUp


Immortality doesn't mean carelessness...

reply to post by EnlightenUp


Or perhaps the feeling of suffocating but not being allowed to die, Or being caught in a fire but never being put out of your misery... Sure immortality sounds like a good idea.

www.imminst.org...

I believe you'll find this website useful. The forums alone are worth a read.

reply to post by _damon


Hi _damon,

Immortality could be possible starting at this time and age as long as you don't get killed accidentally in the future. You would have to have a lot of money though to get you through the long future of immortality.

I'm no doctor and I don't give out medical advice, but if you are serious about living what most people would consider to be multiple life times, then I think you should watch these videos.

www.youtube.com...

I think Bob's knowledge could give you "immortal blood" as stated in the videos and as described elsewhere on the Internet; and I think the electrical device which Bob describes and tells you strap to your wrist could extend life also. His videos are very interesting. I think in the future you would simply need to have surgeries to replace worn out parts, and if you cloned yourself, you would have plenty of parts for use later on.

I hope you are successful in your endevour my friend.

Originally posted by _damon

To the OP again... conciousness is a common trait amongst individuated forms of physical existence. First understand you have no physical reality and all your senses tell you, is in fact illusion, and concious intelligent infinity is indeed the only reality then immortality will be yours, and mine.

But the physical world really does exist. Probably different from what i see and feel with my senses but it is not an illusion. You just want to believe this way so it is easier for you to go on. But its not a bad dream or nightmare, the world of matter is as real as the world after death (we suppose there is one). You do fear to be only a dust in an infinite world amongst infinite worlds without any prepurpose right? I don't.

Well, no, according to quantum physics, this reality really is an illusion, every facet of it created and affected by concious observation.
reality is an illusion

Please understand I`m not attacking any of what you postulate, merely I am offering an alternative look at things. An outlook based on science.

Vedic teachings tell us of how this reality is illusory as well, and the underlying message of these teachings tie curiously in with the new discoveries in quantum physics.
the great maya

May I suggest that you have read at the Law of One (the Ra Material) maybe not it all (its like 5 books) but have a glance at this study guide on it....
law of one study guide

At least open your mind to other possible realities.

Immortality is easily attainable, but I would imagine impossible in a temporary world.


And no, I am not afraid of being only dust in an infinite world against infinite worlds with no prepurpose. I`m not afraid because I know that not to be the case, and I also know that the second law of thermodynamics means this world i not infinite.

reply to post by _damon

I want Immortality

Ok.

Why do you believe you do not already have it?

This is a rhetorical question.

You must have a pretty comfortable lifestyle,if you have decided you would like immortality!
I for one, could not even contemplate going through all the trials and tribulations i have faced,for all eternity!
No,i wont shed a tear when my time comes to shuffle off this mortal coil!
(Whenever that may be)!

You ARE ALREADY immortal.

You soul is immortal but your body isn't.

Don't worry though you will get an immortal body too when you get into heaven\hell.

if u want physical immortality u can always turn to robotics.

but then again, u can get crushed by a meteor.

Ok, so you want to be IMMORTAL. Think for a moment amount the worst case scenario should you ever succeed. For instance, if you were to have a body that regenerated after any damage and a brain that could NOT be switched off for all time, what would you do when the sun explodes and the solar system is destroyed along with all life. You would still exist floating in space unable to go anywhere or do anything about it. Your minutes would become hours, your hours to days, your days to weeks and so forth. Paralysed if you will for ALL ETERNITY. Relax for a time in a darkened silent room and go over the scenario enough to take in the concept and understand the full terror of the situation that you could NEVER escape from. You will soon forget any notion of wanting to be immortal because the bad side FAR outweighs any pluses in the long term!!

reply to post by sayzaar


I agree.

But I think the human life span is miserably short. I mean only 80 years. You are out of your peak by around 40.

Human life span of around 700+ years like in the time of Noah sounds much better.

I wonder why we don't live as long.

Originally posted by Essan


Be nice to know when we're going to die. But immortal? There's a reason we don' hear from God these days .....

Tell me, oh wise lord... why do we not hear from God these days?

I'm being sarcastic.

You may not "hear" from God. That's between you and God.

Originally posted by LordBucket
reply to post by _damon

 

I want Immortality

Ok.

Why do you believe you do not already have it?

This is a rhetorical question.

But a bloody good one! Well done.

Revelation 6:9 (King James Version)
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9And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held:

Revelation 6:10 (King James Version) VVVVVVVV

10And they cried with a loud voice, saying, How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth?

Revelation 6:11 (King James Version) VVVVVVVV

11And white robes were given unto every one of them; and it was said unto them, that they should rest yet for a little season, until their fellowservants also and their brethren, that should be killed as they were, should be fulfilled.

immortality does exist UM JUST SAYEN




[edit on 2/4/10 by Ophiuchus 13]

reply to post by TarzanBeta


I hear and see the power of the Lord everywhere!

Just study natural sciences and YOU will find God.

There was only ONE man ever who God talked to directly. That man was Moses (peace be upon him).

Originally posted by Jinni
reply to post by TarzanBeta

 

I hear and see the power of the Lord everywhere!

Just study natural sciences and YOU will find God.

There was only ONE man ever who God talked to directly. That man was Moses (peace be upon him).

(peace be upon him)?

I guess you forgot about Jesus talking with His Father.

The Spirit works through us to convey to us what it is God wants to impart to us (or through us). It is a matter of RECOGNIZING IT.

I'm glad that you believe in God.

reply to post by _damon

Physical Immortality is a misnomer. It simply cannot be achieved in the physical body no matter what you think you can do to get it.

Free Radicals are a big player in the decline or aging process and while Anti-Oxidants can strengthen and prolong the body for a little while longer, the physical body will deteriorate.

You say you can handle Immortality in your current physical form. May I ask how you think you know this when you have not already lived to a ripe old age and seen the changes around you, the death of all you knew and loved and the severe isolation you would experience from everyone who would hate you for outliving them in their future?

If you could find a way to preserve the body for All Eternity.. that is what Immortality is... my bet is that within 200 or so years you would be begging for death's embrace.

Perhaps you would then throw yourself in front of a bus or train..but.. oh dear in 200 years there will be none of those things. If humanity is somehow still clinging to this rock then life will be very heavily controlled, observed 24/7, ordered with no variance allowed and that my friend is not living.

Good luck seeking for what cannot be found.