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All UFO's Are Ours, Aliens Haven't Visited Ever, & Believers Are Possibly Delusional

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posted on Feb, 4 2010 @ 12:09 AM
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I can tell by your feeble responses you have just become lackluster and given up on all life, not simply alien life. I am sorry about that. This too will pass. Get some rest and feel better. Hope you are back to your old pragmatic self soon.



posted on Feb, 4 2010 @ 12:12 AM
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Originally posted by Signals
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OKAY, you saw a UFO? Is anybody reading this thread? Your experience proves to no one you witnessed a being from another planet or plane of existence....You saw a machine.


Yes I am reading and I believe him. You don't have to be an air traffic controller, a pilot or an astronaut to have witnessed a UFO. Regular people do see them too. Which makes perfect sense since they are there.



posted on Feb, 4 2010 @ 12:14 AM
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Alright, surely this poster is just trolling.
I mean, it is obvious at this point.

The poster has backtracked more than once and when called out (many times) on the erroneous logic of statements like: "Aliens have not visited Earth. There is no proof." The poster just ignores these and continues without even a THOUGHT of requalifing the statemtents.

Not only that, the obviously inflammatory remarks remain in the OP (mods, where are you?). "If you believe UFOs are anything other than what I say they are, you are delusional and a "phony."

This is unacceptable. I could choose one out of one hundred topics and post the same exact argument in and I would be *forced* to reconcile this obvious violation of the T&C.

There is nothing civil about this thread. It is a taunt and a bully-pulpit for those without the intellectual capacity of a baboon.

Something needs to be done about this thread.
Seriously, we are going on 10 pages now, mods.



posted on Feb, 4 2010 @ 12:17 AM
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What I saw was UNIDENTIFIED...and unidentifiable by all sorts of people who ought to be able to recognize the mundane causes.

I did not and would not say they were from another planet or dimension, but it was clearly odd enough to baffle the folks at the cincy airport, police departments and the university...

Maybe it was secret govt. stuff, maybe mis-direction...maybe more...but people keep seeing things and while 90 percent can be explaine...what about the rest...

I will not give a false name to something i can't identify...but I will remain open to it's true nature whatver it may be...



posted on Feb, 4 2010 @ 12:22 AM
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All UFO's Are Ours, Aliens Haven't Visited Ever, & Believers Are Delusional Phonies

Take it easy man.

צֶלֶם אֱלֹהִים‎; tzelem elohim, lit. "image of God"




Prove me wrong.

Sorry man, that's not how it works.



posted on Feb, 4 2010 @ 12:27 AM
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I did not read this thread completely because I figured where this was going. I read the beginning pages and these last ones. I already figured where this was going to go, and your post confirms it.

I too do not deny that highly advanced aerial vehicles exist. I too am sure that they are definitely government technology. The only thing that keeps me on the fence is that I have not seen any indisputable evidence that extraterrestrial entities exist, and they are the one's piloting these craft.

It comes down to another form of evidence. Most of the posts I read tried to show that unidentified aerial phenomena exist. And there was some real informative posts, I tell you what. But maybe I missed the post where someone showed definite proof of extraterrestrial entities piloting these advanced aerial vehicles?

If space is so vast, then one can only assume that life is abundant in this complete vastness, and that maybe they are piloting highly advanced aerial, or space vehicles. Look at what humans can accomplish. I am sure another form of life may accomplish more, even travel across the vastness of space, to us.

Whether humans have created these advanced craft or not, they are real, and they are intelligent, but what about the people who say they have seen extraterrestrial bodies in some cases?

I understand that it is hard because some would just say that all of these supposed high level eye witnesses are paid government disinformation agents, but the same could be said about the advanced vehicles.

Maybe they propagate the extraterrestrial existence, even at their age, because the technology available to them is so advanced, maybe they already have "the fountain of youth", and this is their contract. Or they could just be some level of MKultra drone. Of course, some would say...

Until you have the extraterrestrial in front of you, and takes you away to some planet with giant blue extraterrestrials, then it probably would be indisputable, but maybe a formal presentation by these beings would be better. Maybe.



posted on Feb, 4 2010 @ 12:29 AM
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lol, as usual we are on the same page look at page 3.



posted on Feb, 4 2010 @ 12:31 AM
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Souls,

The only thing worse than seeing someone who apparently doesn't understand erroneous logic is seeing even more people who do the same.

[edit on 4-2-2010 by JayinAR]



posted on Feb, 4 2010 @ 12:31 AM
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Has anyone stopped to consider what an alien would do if they somehow did make it here? It would be short and sweet.

Chapter I - witness famine, genocide, war, hatred, waste, greed (to name a few).

Chapter II - vaporize all Humans.

Now, pinch yourself and twist really hard....still here?

Good. Then they are not.



posted on Feb, 4 2010 @ 12:34 AM
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You are off topic in your own thread.
2nd line.



posted on Feb, 4 2010 @ 12:35 AM
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Im assuming you missed my post it was the last comment on page 8. I provided you with a link that shows an alien tell me what do you think?

[edit on 4-2-2010 by maximiliian]



posted on Feb, 4 2010 @ 12:39 AM
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posted on Feb, 4 2010 @ 12:43 AM
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Originally posted by maximiliian
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Of course not all of them are accurate maybe even none of them are but im sure that at least one out of those thousands are true. Heres the link www.youtube.com... most people have seen it I would be surprised if you haven't.

[edit on 4-2-2010 by maximiliian]


That is an interesting video. Alas, like most, it is grainy and fuzzy. Is that all you need to prove alien existence here? I need more than that.

Thanks for posting evidence though, at least you "get it"...sigh...while others continue to whine and attempt to derail.



posted on Feb, 4 2010 @ 12:49 AM
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Thank you for that, those are good videos! I have not postulated here once that we are all alone. I just don't think they have visited us.

My favorite pic (or video) of all time is Carl Sagan's "Blue Dot"...that really puts it into perspective for me.



posted on Feb, 4 2010 @ 12:54 AM
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Im glad you like it, yes it is grainy because it was captured on a cellphone camera a very interesting note because how would kids from mexico or anyone else for that matter be able to tamper with and produce what was shown. Since you dont know about this case you should look into it, it has its credentials it deserves more attention.



posted on Feb, 4 2010 @ 01:05 AM
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i have to respond....
who do you work for?
i want your name rank and serial#
what kind of disinfo are you trying to peddle just look up any clear night and you tell me what you see.. the truth is up there just open your eyes look up.

there is your disclosure

[edit on 4-2-2010 by gaurdian2012]



posted on Feb, 4 2010 @ 01:07 AM
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[All UFO's Are Ours, Aliens Haven't Visited Ever, & Believers Are Delusional Phonies]
i have to respond....
who do you work for?
i want your name rank and serial#
what kind of disinfo are you trying to peddle just look up any clear night and you tell me what you see.. the truth is up there just open your eyes look up.

there is your disclosure

[edit on 4-2-2010 by gaurdian2012]

[edit on 4-2-2010 by gaurdian2012]



posted on Feb, 4 2010 @ 01:17 AM
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the truth is up there just open your eyes look up.
there is your disclosure

I have to agree, I have a few caves he can visit and get a little disclosure out of as well but don't expect him to ever return to the surface.


Best Wishes!




posted on Feb, 4 2010 @ 01:22 AM
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Dear Signals

Good thread get them thinking. I have just spent the morning looking at several Timothy Good videos. An English author.

Very interesting and at the end I was considering a similar thread to this.

The point being that we have some great books and a lot of research and end up with at best a few imprints in the desert.

Which comes down to one of two things.

You are right and it is all a con job for what ever reason. By the way I totally agree with most of what you say about TPTB anyway.

Or they are just that good at cleaning up after themselves.

It comes down to being as bad as a religion. You need faith to believe.

Just one point I came across lately though. Going back to Roswell, I found out that they made Colonel Blanchard a 4 Star General.

Now you think they are going to do that to a man that can not tell the difference between a space ship and a few sticks of balsa wood and some tin foil.

I think not.



posted on Feb, 4 2010 @ 01:27 AM
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I have personally seen something which I would classify as a UFO. I would not go as far as to say alien (although I would like that to be correct) but it was most definitely an Unidentified Flying Object.

I have no proof, no photo's - all I have is the picture-perfect memory of the object that I saw in the sky that evening and the fact that it was unlike anything I had ever seen before.

If you are going to go around calling people like me "Delusional Phonies" you need to 1. Get your facts straight before insulting intelligent people and 2. PROVIDE EVIDENCE. You speak of evidence many times in your OP yet provide NONE of your own.

Put your money where your mouth is and front up with some evidence!



Oh, and calling believers "Delusional Phonies" is also highly offensive. If you wish to continue serious discussions about the subject of UFO's then I would suggest you cut out the crap and stop throwing childish insults around - or you may find yourself talking to........yourself.



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