What should be an intelligent species main goal?

Hi All,
wasn't too sure the best place to put this but hope you all take a look.

What should be an intelligent species main goal? And why aren’t we trying to achieve it?

I propose an answer to this question for your pondering.

History has proven that every so often a calamity of some sort wipes out a species or group of species. It is claimed to 99.9% all species that have ever lived are now extinct.

Even if we are cocky enough to believe that such calamities could never succeed in wiping us out any time soon. We are surely not foolish enough to deny the fact that eventually the sun with cease to function. With this will come the inevitable extinction of our species unless we have spread out further into the galaxy and in enough numbers to increase our population and not die out.

Now I certainly acknowledge this event is billions of years from now, but if we are not playing to win so to speak then what’s the point. Surely we don’t want to think of ourselves as a species that held dominance over its planet for a million years or so, only to be wiped out by a meteor strike or a species looked upon from a future potential dominant species as we do now with the dinosaurs.

With this theory in mind, it would seem logical to think that an intelligent species main goal should be to achieve the permanent continuation of its species, particularly in relation spending the maximum realistic amount of its resources on technology which will enable it to achieve colonization of other worldly bodies whilst keeping its populace healthy. It would certainly not be an intelligent race if it was wasting time and money on anything else, like military, Capitalism, mass consumerism and all that goes with it.

With all this info in mind I have come to the conclusion if there is other intelligent life out there, then the reason we haven’t found any or its rare enough that we can be lied to about it is because of how rare it really is. For life to exist in any form is rare. For life to first exist and then exist long enough to evolve to our current level prior to being wiped out is rarer still. And for intelligence life to exist long enough to develop ways to spread out prior to being wiped out would be pretty much nonexistent.

Hence how crucial is this current stage of the game we are in, this would be the most common point were logically a species may not make it if their not mature enough, when they either take one path of working together as a species for the species, or taking the other path which leads to a “service to self “based mentality and reality like the one we are currently seeing unfold before us., a path that ends up with our a guaranteed demise either from calamity of our own self destruction.

So in summary, we need to wake everyone up to the fact that we need to stop screwing around like immature brats and get off this rock asap, we cannot sit here with all our eggs in one basket and we are running out of time, it could already be too late. Nothing else is as important as the guaranteed or increased odds of the continuation of our species.

If I was in a position of power, this is the direction I would choose to proceed with. And I just wish we could get this message to sink into TPTB heads. Their lack of care for this is really leaving me no other choice that to believe we are a sub species or different species to those who really control this planet. If we are all human, then why isn’t this there main goal.

Look forward to hearing some feedback, sorry for the length post

reply to post by MouldyCrumpet

It is claimed to 99.9% all species that have ever lived are now extinct.

source?

Even if we are cocky enough to believe that such calamities could never succeed in wiping us out any time soon. We are surely not foolish enough to deny the fact that eventually the sun with cease to function. With this will come the inevitable extinction of our species unless we have spread out further into the galaxy and in enough numbers to increase our population and not die out.

we have much bigger problems at hand then getting off this planet. That can wait.

With this theory in mind, it would seem logical to think that an intelligent species main goal should be to achieve the permanent continuation of its species,

continuation is the prime directive of all species, despite their level of intelligence, and the fact that humans are still here, is proof that we've been doing a good enough job of preserving ourselves so far. Our numbers would suggest that we're actually quite good at it.

survival is a given in all species, i think the goal yer looking to achieve is immortality. Not just any old dumb species can pull that off.

With all this info in mind I have come to the conclusion if there is other intelligent life out there, then the reason we haven’t found any or its rare enough that we can be lied to about it is because of how rare it really is. For life to exist in any form is rare. For life to first exist and then exist long enough to evolve to our current level prior to being wiped out is rarer still. And for intelligence life to exist long enough to develop ways to spread out prior to being wiped out would be pretty much nonexistent.

this is all relative and not necessarily true.

Hence how crucial is this current stage of the game we are in, this would be the most common point were logically a species may not make it if their not mature enough, when they either take one path of working together as a species for the species, or taking the other path which leads to a “service to self “based mentality and reality like the one we are currently seeing unfold before us., a path that ends up with our a guaranteed demise either from calamity of our own self destruction.

the stage we're in is more like the transition from a type 0 civilization to a type 1(google michio kaku for more). But just becoming a type one civ will not put us out of the woods just yet, once we reach type 2, then we'll be advanced enough to not be so dependent on earth.

If I was in a position of power, this is the direction I would choose to proceed with. And I just wish we could get this message to sink into TPTB heads. Their lack of care for this is really leaving me no other choice that to believe we are a sub species or different species to those who really control this planet. If we are all human, then why isn’t this there main goal.

I'm sure theres contingency plans in place in the case of a variety of cataclysmic events should they occur, but unfortunately we're simply not capable of saving everyone. So thats why you don't know about them, yer not one of the lucky few.

I think you should relax and realize that we humans are probably not dyin out anytime soon.

Originally posted by liquidsmoke206
reply to post by MouldyCrumpet

 

It is claimed to 99.9% all species that have ever lived are now extinct.

source?

nitro.biosci.arizona.edu...

en.wikipedia.org...

mjperry.blogspot.com...

reply to post by mouldy crumpet


cool. just making sure you aren't pulling facts out of thin air.

You'd be amazed how many people actually think humans only use 10% of their brains.

continuation is the prime directive of all species, despite their level of intelligence, and the fact that humans are still here, is proof that we've been doing a good enough job of preserving ourselves so far. Our numbers would suggest that we're actually quite good at it.

You really think so, long term ?, our numbers simply mean we know how to breed, not that were doing a good job of preserving ourselves, in fact everyting i see prooves the exact opposite of long term preservation

survival is a given in all species, i think the goal yer looking to achieve is immortality. Not just any old dumb species can pull that off.

This is exactly what im saying, i just didnt use the word immortal, im talking about a permanent presence in the universe

to elaborate further my main concern is that we could be wiped out at any moment unexpectantly, history has proven that its happened before.

so i think we need to ensure our immortality sooner rather than later, and start spending more in this area

At a great risk of posting disinfo, I will say that the great majority of people have been sold out to special interest groups that you or I will have a hard time comprehending.

2012 is fast approaching and even if we manage to escape catastrophe, as some say is inevitable, I am not sure we will have a bright future anyway. Maybe I am wrong and I hope I am, but if you have been closely examining events of the past you will see a lot of things do not make sense.

We went to the moon three decades ago and according to official reports we found nothing but rocks and barren land. Why is it that so many people, unofficially of course, disagree? Is nasa and esa hiding some very important information and for what purpose are they hiding it? I am trying to make the puzzle fit but it is a daunting task to put it mildly.

Then we have various plagues surfacing in the most suspicious fashion and again mainstream media is not doing its job properly. We have to relly on youtube and abovetopsecret to find some truth. That is most pathetic!

We have an unaccounted pentagon and cia budget where rumor has it the elite are building underground bases to conduct secret experiments and ride out the storm of 2012 while everyone else gets treated like dogs and cats. In fact, even animals get more trust and respect now-a-days then us pathetic, useless eaters. We just eat, work, sleep, # and watch mainstream tv. It's almost like being a vegetable!

You tell me what needs to be done. Do people deserve this kind of treatment? Do we care about anything anymore.......

reply to post by mouldy crumpet

You really think so, long term ?, our numbers simply mean we know how to breed, not that were doing a good job of preserving ourselves, in fact everyting i see prooves the exact opposite of long term preservation

as a species we've survived some hard times, and to still be here with our numbers the way they are is an achievement. Having said that it is true that maintaining such a high population is probably impossible. But I also dont see population reduction as the end of our species. It's gonna have to come down one way or another, but we can bounce back, that what it shows.

to elaborate further my main concern is that we could be wiped out at any moment unexpectantly, history has proven that its happened before.

we can, but we can't sit around and worry about stuff that we have no control over. Putting all of our resources and minds together to create a means of colonizing other planets in any kind of short term time frame is not realistic. What do have are emergency plans for situations that we can control. For example, most people have a plan for if their house catches on fire, they discuss escape routes and places to meet up after they've escaped. They dont pool all their resources together and make their house completely flame retardant. Suppose someone created a type of building that could withstand an 11.0 earthquake, does this mean we should immediately begin knocking over all old buildings and replacing them just in case an 11 earthquake strikes? No, where would we get the resources for that? It would take sooo long to do that even if we could.

[edit on 29-1-2010 by liquidsmoke206]

when we evolved without help i say we are on the right track, maybe even a bit to fast roling at the moment.
this inevitably leads to help from outer space that is benevolent to us as life , not directly as the evolved beeing. (certainly they will help us to a point of self preservation, and some guidance.
wich will lead to NWO and stuff like that.
without any help we will destroy ourselves in this view.


when we where seeded here than its a whole different story.
the path has been laid for us to walk on.
and no speculation needed, you can fill it in yourselves.
this will lead to the continuation of our life.
still an period of NWO will be needed .

when we are only left by ourselves to survive.
than yes we need to work together as a whole.
less secrecy, end to war, educate the world.
than we got a good future ahead.
still NWO needed at some point.

we keep being corrupt and secret.
worshiping the elite in a way.
we will also survive.
the self selected few will keep life on earth.
if the have a window to slip trough in the event of huge disasters.

Originally posted by mouldy crumpet
to elaborate further my main concern is that we could be wiped out at any moment unexpectantly, history has proven that its happened before.

so i think we need to ensure our immortality sooner rather than later, and start spending more in this area

what we see left behind as great civilizations are from my point of view the immens failure of the corrupt elite.
every time again and again.
this is for me one of the reasons why we didn't fall already.

the ancient knowledge could be books of epic failure.
its good that that darn book depo went in flames long ago, or did that never happened?

i say the elite are on their toes trying to do it better now.




[edit on 29-1-2010 by telfyr]

Originally posted by liquidsmoke206
survival is a given in all species, i think the goal yer looking to achieve is immortality. Not just any old dumb species can pull that off.

Survival NEVER is a given! Many species have gone extinct in the past such as dinosuars.

Originally posted by liquidsmoke206
I'm sure theres contingency plans in place in the case of a variety of cataclysmic events should they occur, but unfortunately we're simply not capable of saving everyone. So thats why you don't know about them, yer not one of the lucky few.

I think you should relax and realize that we humans are probably not dyin out anytime soon.

Thanks for proving what I already said in my previous post! Who gets to decide who lives and who dies? More importantly everyone is entitled to know the truth, even if it is not a convienent truth, because WE pay for YOUR salaries!

Communication (Sharing) is the ultimate goal -even Heaven itself!

--living in harmony with nature

--seeing ourselves in others

--respecting all life as sacred

--being content with what we already have

--balancing knowledge with wisdom; brains with heart

--accepting the inevitable (death)

--denying ignorance

The exultation of both the divine and the human in us all. It's sometimes a reach for me to maintain my Christian faith but when i look at all the beautiful and the exhulted in the accomplishments of human beings, especially in our arts, architectural, athletic, and compassionate cultural agreements, and "shared realities" as the Pope recently reminded us I have renewed fatih.

Art, caring, and passion for life.

reply to post by EarthCitizen07

Survival NEVER is a given! Many species have gone extinct in the past such as dinosuars.

you misunderstood me, survival as a goal is a given for all species. Whether or not they succeed is obviously not a given. Many factors come into play, intelligence is not the ultimate decider. The dinosaurs were very dumb, but lasted much much longer than humans have so far.

Thanks for proving what I already said in my previous post! Who gets to decide who lives and who dies? More importantly everyone is entitled to know the truth, even if it is not a convienent truth, because WE pay for YOUR salaries!

this makes the assumption that people in government know "the truth" whatever that means....
Ultimately no one decides who lives and dies, but sorry bro if there is a stronghold where people can go to survive a cataclysm then there's simply not gonna be enough room for everybody. Are you bitter? Why should you be brought along...what do you have that thats so needed in the case of a cataclysm?

I know, you just wanna survive.....well thats a given....

Originally posted by liquidsmoke206

this makes the assumption that people in government know "the truth" whatever that means....

Some people DO KNOW the truth, but I am not talking about bush or obama. They are just well groomed puppets and do as told!

Originally posted by liquidsmoke206
Ultimately no one decides who lives and dies, but sorry bro if there is a stronghold where people can go to survive a cataclysm then there's simply not gonna be enough room for everybody. Are you bitter? Why should you be brought along...what do you have that thats so needed in the case of a cataclysm?

I know, you just wanna survive.....well thats a given....

I don't expect everyone to survive a natural cataclyism, thats a given.

However, I don't appreciate a few self-elected "elite" deciding who gets to live and who gets to die. For someone to become elite you must first prove your merit and they have done nothing to prove themselves.

In fact all the evidence suggests they are PARASITES of the worst kind because they can only function in secret and seem to never make good decisions.

reply to post by EarthCitizen07

In fact all the evidence suggests they are PARASITES of the worst kind because they can only function in secret >>and seem to never make good decisions.