My expiriences from 10 and up

reply to post by Wandering Scribe


To me, the hexagram is akin to the two pyramids, triangles intersecting, with, the dominant one followed by the controllers here, being, power to the few, but the inverted triangle (as opposed to the inverted pentagram), is the triangle that goes towards the masses, and its the equality one, another allegory to, Boaz and Jachin, the two pillars, or, the checkerboard floor:

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/9a7dd07c89d7.jpg[/atsimg]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJfc94rj5L0

So, what I'm curious about really is the difference between the 6 sided hexagram and the 5 sided pentagram, where did the pentagram emerge in the geometry, historically?

By the way, you have more awareness suddenly??? Sense a stronger recognition of you, though there is still some barriers, and I don't even know what I mean by them, except I see boxes or conceptional differences, as if we're in two different classrooms.

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reply to post by Wandering Scribe


I see.

Good to see, i was wondering what your response to the Satanism part would be. Glad you didn't dismiss it in the fact that Satanism is generally received to be an "evil" religion. In my opinion, Atheistic Satanism is a very mature and well developed religion, and like you say, is simply just about Human Nature; something very few religions choose to acknowledge. I could talk about it for a while, but i wont go on. I think it will be interesting to see Unity and Shadows take on Satanism, as i think they view it as an evil religion; associated with the "evil" occult, human sacrifice, illuminati etc, so if either of you are reading this, do you care to offer your view?

Aum nashi me

I'm not going to lie, i still don't know what that means, apart from the song, and the interchangeable Aum and Om.

Originally posted by ShadowNinja

Tip: The spiky blond haired male likes to play cards just a tip to have a friendly game

Damnnn! I love cards. Small cards, large cards, joke cards, tarrot cards! All types of cards! If I visualise a poker table in my head and leave a few empty seats, will they join me?


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@ Unity 99

By the way, you have more awareness suddenly... ...Sense a stronger recognition of you

And while in life I feel
What death does hide away
Silence that makes us
Greater in substance
Before the bones break
And wind steals away.

Bathed in light's languagery
Nothing burns brighter than this




@ Orion Tri

I'm not going to lie, i still don't know what that means, apart from the song, and the interchangeable Aum and Om

Oh, infinite nakedness

Now, what that one means, is up to you, ha ha.

As for Satanism, I came up very closely connected to a group of theistic satanists, Luciferians, and LaVeyian Satanists. I got to tell the different between theological Satanism and rebellious "satanism" very quickly.

I happen to respect La Vey and Eliphas Levi very much. Both being prominent explorers of "satanic" lore during their respective times.

I too am curious as to what Shadow/Unity would say concerning Satanism.

reply to post by Unity_99


The exact origins of the Pentagram and Hexagram are both largely lost to the sands of time. It's hard to say that any one specific civilization thought them up, since both symbols have appeared in neolithic cave drawings all across the world. Since those times, many cultures have adopted and elaborated on those ancient stars to embrace a wide array of meanings. However they usually boil down to a few standard interpretations.
Many anthropologists believe that as a human allegory, the pentagram represented the human body with arms and legs outstretched with the head occupying the space of the top point. Think of it like an ancient version of the Vitruvian Man. There is of course, the simple fact that it was a shape reminiscent of the stars early man gazed upon, featuring a bright point with rays issuing from its center (Same goes for the hexagram, but more on that later).
As time progressed and mankind developed a spiritual consciousness, they began ascribing meanings to the ancient five pointed figure. This is where the common interpretation of the pentagram representing the 4 elements thought to make up the universe (Air, Fire, Water, Earth) surmounted by a fifth element - Spirit. It all comes together to represent man's harmony with the universe, and the rise of spirit over matter. Much like how WanderingScribe noted in his eariler post on the matter.
The hexagram's origins are equally mysterious, though most of us today associate it with the Star of David in Judaism. However the Hebrew people took this already ancient symbol and interpereted it to represent the unification of the 7 wandering tribes of Israel (one for each outer point, and one in the central hexagon formed by the two triangles). However it's spiritual significance is much older. The study of the stars is considerably ancient, and humans had identified 7 distinctly unique celestial bodies in the night sky. They of course were Mercury, Venus, the Moon, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn, plus the Sun, which despite not being a planet was included in the group since it was a bright moving thing in the sky. Taken together, they were applied to the Hexagram with each of the planets taking up one point, with the sun in the middle. Which shows a surprising amount of foresight, since the general public didn't come to accept the fact our planets revolved around the sun until well into the Enlightenment.
As for the modern day, occultists have adopted both symbols for many of their practices. Many contemporary "earth-based" religions make use of it's elemental symbolism as a means of assuming oneness with the natural universe. Similarly other occult societies have adopted the Hexagram and made the upward pointing triangle representing fire and masculine energies, and the downward pointing triangle representing water and feminine energies. The two interlocked, they symbolize harmony of polarities (similar to the yin-yang) as well as the unity of man and woman.
There are of course many, MANY more meanings out there. Those are just the generic ones. But when people propose they are strictly "evil" and "satanic" they are usually wrong. These symbols are largely misinterpreted in a society that is all too interested in jumping to conclusions.

reply to post by Wandering Scribe


I send them LOVE & LIGHT . The odd thing is that many people who are writing online, I suspect an agenda that is differing form my own awareness, yet when they're really versed its a conclusion I've drawn for some, and yet there is an awareness, that I've sensed in many of them anyway. Some of the posters I recognize, I know they've been long time cosmic citizens. Would have to disagree with their concepts but not all of their knowledge, read some very good posts. Prefer not to judge anyone and in a sense would be very curious as to why that route is taken and what it means to the person really.

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Thank you that is very interesting. The pentagram then could be seen as representing man, or the cross???? For the cross is supposedly representing mankind and suffering as the way to growth or allusions to the duality, which of course I would argue endlessly against, as this is not necessary, rather overcoming the world and self is more important, and remembering who we are, extending love and forgiveness to all.

I have a feeling these symbols in and of themselves actually originated off planet, so very old.

reply to post by Unity_99


Unity,

I'm rather curious: why do you consider it to be an "agenda" if the goal is somehow different from your own; even when the person is well-versed, or an expert in their field of study?

You said you could/can sense awareness in these people. If someone is aware, and are pursuing an ends, how can it be some agenda opposite your own goals? What makes your pursuit not an "agenda", but theirs is one?

Are you suggesting some Satanists are long-time cosmic citizens? Which would not be possible since Satanism does not acknowledge any of the spiritual-unification theories that you do. This seems like a discrepancy to me.

I agree with your curiosity about why people pursue certain routes.

~ Wandering Scribe

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Actually not these posts on this thread, I was thinking of a few others. I've had some strange experiences in the past, David Icke's forum comes to mind, when I first started waking up. Had psi attacks as well. While at the same time, the ones I suspected of this and who were on that forum a lot with a slightly different mix of information that I was learning to spot, I still like the fact that they were very informed, and obviously saw through the system. Probably should water the words down a bit. But my response to this is cautious as well. To me its as if wide awake people with a focus on metaphysics, psi, and knowledge are persisting in choosing or promoting a negative pathway. If I'm wrong or if there are some groups like this and others not, would like to know the difference.

Well, some of the ones I know are posting from that school of thought are my family, I know that, and if their own teachings tell them something else, then I will say it clearly, their teachings are in error. I've posted quite a bit on what its really all about.

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Well technically the cross and the star are distinctly different symbols, though they do share some correspondence. The cross, which is also extremely ancient, originally had nothing to do with the sufferings of mankind. This is a strictly Christian concept of the symbol, though this is an easy assumption to make since the Latin Cross (or crucifix) is the most popular symbol of Christianity. Even still, the Latin Cross in a more non-denominational sense represents the rise of spirit over the material world, which does mirror the pentagram's triumph over the elements.
However the first cross (of which there are many variations) was a simple two lined figure with each line being of equal length, more or less looking like a plus sign. It represented the 4 winds and 4 directions (N, E, S, W). Needless to say it was popular with Native American and other aboriginal tribes of the world.

And yes, many of mankind's most treasured iconographic symbols have been with us since ancient times, but it does not necessarily mean they are extraterrestrial or from another planet. I think far too often people don't give enough credit to the human race. To suppose that humans weren't able to conceive into symbolic form the ideas of stars, elements, directions, planets, and more pretty much limits us to being simple ignorant lifeforms unable to rationalize greater forces than ourselves. The human mind and human will is much more powerful than most people think, and to claim the only reason we have arcane knowledge is due to extraterrestrials is a discredit to our race. Be proud of your humanity.

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All of our souls and even our dna is ET. This is just a school, a dvd run, in "time" programmed into our consciousness based on our orbit, but in the Beyond there is no time, and its a concept that is beyond comprehension as well, yet, there are infinite runs of this DVD playing in different film clips of time, that play at once without the programming. Its mind boggling really.

History itself is far different than what we've been told, theres a big blank wall there, like a screen I'm trying to reach past, I guess my own spirit is saying No, but I'm going to work on that, there are many generations or eras. The abuses that happened to humans by those controlling or designing this matrix was really ugly.

reply to post by Unity_99


Our genetics are only extraterrestrial in the sense that our DNA is made from the same chemical elements that are found in the rest of the physical universe. We are not a bacterial colony planted here on a petri dish Earth, under the microscopes of our masters. We evolved from a primitive mammalian species, and I'd have a hard time seeing anyone try to disprove the Darwinian theory.

I can see that you are trying to confound me with vague esoteric jargon about time, orbits, and matrices. However I assure you that I too am familiar with the void, the veil, and the immensity of our universe. And it has been my experience that the matrix is not so much extraterrestrial as it is all part of the universal consciousness shared by everything suspended in the Ether; not predetermined by some otherworldly cabal. We are the masters of our own destiny.

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Interesting to see you deviating into the realm of the Soul, Unity. Such happens to be one of my favorite aspects of philosophy. Let us examine the plethora of soul studies and soteriology present in humanity, for a moment. Shall we?

• Ancient Babylon

To the ancient Babylonian's there was no such thing as a soul. Life was not eternal, the human mechanism died at death, and stayed dead. The Babylonians stood in awe at their divine overseers, bewildered by the deities seemingly-eternal lives.

The Enuma Elish which contains the epic of Gilgamesh is testament to this belief. In the epic of Gilgamesh he goes off to find the Flower of Immortality so that humanity can develop immortality, thus giving them a soul.

Iraq, where the Babylonian culture rose up, also greatly reflects on their theories on a soul, and soteriology. The desert is harsh, unforgiving, and destructive. Their settlements were always under constant attack, and when destroyed no traces remained. This harsh living climate gave rise to a system of impermanence, reflected in Babylon's belief on their own morality and non-existent-soul.

• Ancient Egypt

Egyptian theology consists of a multi-part soul. Egypt was the first permanent civilization to utilize stone, masonry, and permanent dwellings. So their culture DID believe in a permanent, everlasting Afterlife. Their bodies, however, had to be converted through several systems before a piece of them entered the immortal world of the soul.

The Ba, the Ka, the Khaibit, the Ren, the Ab, and several more "pieces" of a soul all compose Egypt's theory on the existence of the soul. At death certain "pieces" have jobs to undertake.

- One piece lingers above/near the body accepting offerings left out by loving family and friends.

- Another part makes sure you are recorded in the Book of the Living.

- A third "piece" travels the Hours and meets the god Thoth and goddess Ma'at along with the guide Anubis. This piece is then measured against a series of Laws. If you pass the test this part travels to an immortal Afterlife.

This is a dramatic contrast to Egypt's neighbor's — Babylon — views on the permanence and existence of a soul. How then could an extra-terrestrial have created both an Ever-Lasting Soul, and a Non-Existent Soul?

• Hinduism

Hinduism believes in an Atman, which is their version of the soul. In Hinduism the Atman is dynamic, meaning it can be changed and altered. The Hindu's believe in the Wheel of Dharma, and a concept known as Karma — ruled over by the god Yama — which are the prime forces controlling the dynamics of the Atman.

Dharma, the Law, is a cycle consisting of being born - living - aging - decaying - dying - traveling through the Bardos - and being reborn. This process takes an Atman from it's current caste system (untouchables, peasants, merchants, serfs, nobility, royalty) and places it in a new caste with each new birth. This is the Doctrine of Reincarnation.

Karma is a system of determing WHAT you will be reborn as. It is all dependent on how much of a tilt the life you just lived had. In some respects it is similar to Egypt's "piece" of the soul that meets the three deities. Only there are three possible outcomes, instead of two:

- If you were too cruel — aquiring Black Stones — Yama would rebirth you as a lower caste system.

- If you were too good — aquiring White Stones — Yama would rebirth you as the same caste system.

- If, however, you balanced yourself out — balancing White and Black stones — Yama would have no choice but to advance you further in your next life seeing as you learned to balance good and evil intentions in the world.

So, in Hinduism there is no "soul" per se. Instead their is a measurement of your life's charge. This measurement is then used to determine what kind of life you will live during the next rotation of the Wheel of Dharma.



So, now we have three variations on a soul:

1. Babylon believes we don't have one, and cannot be saved.

2. Egypt believes we have one, and it can only be saved by obeying the law.

3. India believe we have one, and it is immortal, but our future depends on our actions.

This is a tragic contrast that does not allow for a single race/force to be in control of our soul, and it's soteriology.



• Buddhism

The Buddhists do not believe in the existence of a dynamic Atman like their fellow Hindus. In Buddhism the Atman is static, and can only be reborn again and again.

The Buddhist seeks to actually free himself or herself from being bound to their Atman. This process is called the Noble Eight-fold Path, and it is based on the Four Great Truths of the world.

So, in Buddhism the soteriological value of the Atman/soul is not based on actions, or deeds, but on inter-personal enlightenment and advancement. Which would prohibit interaction from an extra-terrestrial race. Since any race seeking to tamper with an Atman would still be caught in the Wheel of Dharma, being born and reborn again and again.



This is just a small, small sampling of the theories on the soul.

There is no way that this vast striation of "souls" comes from a single source. It is obvious by this display that the soul, and it's soteriology, is co-dependent on mankind, and the spirituality we develop for ourselves. Not the hand of an extra-terrestrial scientists who mixed us together as some experiment.

I think this little quip best describes the nature of our souls:

...I am
because I was
I will be again
because...

~ Wandering Scribe

reply to post by BaphometsProphet


No, we are literally dna wise ets. But, the overview of the whole infinite school of our universe is that its more of a software, coding. This is more like a digital reality, and we are beaming in here, projecting our consciousness into a DVD, its quantum weirdness meets the Beyond, the beyond is what is beyond this Universe, our true homes. Here we learn love and profound equality. Though this 3d duality system is not a happy place to be, it shows us strongly what we need to yearn for, to be free.

Inner searches, meditation, sungazing and seeking your Higher Self helps enormously.

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I don't deviate into soul, and soul is not depicted in traditions either eastern or Satanic, here, its a state of being, who we are and recovering memories or reaching into them, and I do that naturally, having been a psi all my life, and reach into the field all the time, its natural, use my insight more than other senses even. Everything for me is from personal experiences, that I've had all my life and my memories. And metaphysics, soul, spiritual, is more important than anything else to me, everything else is insignificant really.

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Greetings Unity,

Are you then trying to redefine the meaning of an intrinsic piece of human spirituality?

I understand completely that you have a concept recording events/experiences in your life. I gather that you believe this "recording device" is your soul, however you cannot reasonably state that it is the only soul without actually proving that all other souls are not really souls.

You states that the soul is "not depicted in traditions Eastern or Satanic", which is grossly inaccurate.

The soul is present in almost all traditions: Egyptian polytheism, Judaism, Hinduism, Hinayana Buddhism, Mahayana Buddhism, Zen Buddhism, Christianity, Islam, Voudun, Norse Paganism, Wicca, Neo-paganism, Asatru, Celtic Polytheism, Satanism, Noguardianism, Scientology, the Occult, Greek Mystery Schools, Mycenaean Paganism, Minoan Polytheism, Greek Philosophy, Christian Philosophy, and numerous other traditions.

The origins of our soul swing back into time immemorial. Shamans, cave-dwelling proto-man himself believed in a spiritual "continuity" that emerged from our deceased forms to be reborn again as animal, man, or element. The soul is a deeply human element, coming from deeply human depths of our psyche, conscious, subconscious, and Higher Self.

You commit a great offense telling 3/4 of mankind that their soul is not really a soul.

Out of curiosity, how have people responded when you've told them this? Like, if you went up to a Christian and told them that their immortal soul was not a soul at all, that their Jesus and Yahweh had lied.

Or, have you ever approached a Neo-pagan and tried to tell them that they didn't really know what the soul was? That all of the books, lessons, and experiences they had felt concerning their soul were false?



I am curious as to how you consider soul to be a "state of being", as you say. I consider states of being to be things like: sickly, healthy, lethargic, wounded and the like.

Possibly you mean the soul is a state of mind? Like being depressed, excited, awed, or cynical? If so, what exactly does being "soul" feel like when it happens?

Concerning memory... I've covered before the reliability level of memories (remember: they're faulty because they exist based on similar events from things you've seen or heard). So I don't really consider "remembering things" to be the soul. I call that what it is: memory.

I remember things too. Plenty of things from my entire life. I also remember things very vividly that did not happen. I have, however, learned to differentiate between what is a real memory, of a real time, embellished by similar memories; and what is an outright lie invented by similar events. Let me give you a little test. These are two actual memories I have, are they real?

• I am standing on a beach, there is white sand surrounding me for miles. A brilliant orange sun hangs just on the horizon, setting lower and lower as I watch. It's finger-rays extend across the sky, cutting holes through the clouds.

My brother jogs down the shoreline as darkness begins to set in. A small mollusk shell rests in my hand as I feel a soft breeze rustle my hair.

• I am young, possibly 4 or 5 years old. I have just finished hanging upside down from a tree, the back of my knees acting like a pivot point on which my mass is suspended. I pick up and toss an apple from the apple tree, it bounds across the grassy backyard and dives into the old field beside my backyard.

I turn and look at the rusty swing-set sitting in the yard. I climb aboard and start pumping my legs in and out and in and out as I gain speed. As I reach the peak (since everyone knows you can't actually flip over on a swing) I release and jump from the swing. For a moment time suspends and I hang in midair. Then I begin to slowly rise, higher and higher, before arcing and plummeting down to the hard ground.

Both of those are actual memories that I have from my life. Are they both real? Are they both fake? How can I know?

The soul cannot be made of memories, 'cause if it were then the soul would be unreliable, faulty, and prone to misinformation.

Everything for me is from personal experiences, that I've had all my life and my memories. And metaphysics, soul, spiritual, is more important than anything else to me, everything else is insignificant really

If you only trust your memory to see you through life, and your spiritual significance then I am afraid you will be sorely lacking when you pass from this mortal coil and are enveloped in the Universal mechanism.

Memory, emotion, thoughts. These things only extend so far along the planes. After climbing or descending a certain degree even memory, emotion, and thought fade away. We become as the solitude of space, and space has no memory, no emotion, and no thoughts.

As I said before, this is the best explanation of the soul that I know:

...I am
Because I was
I will be again
Because...

~ Wandering Scibe

reply to post by Wandering Scribe

I cant use my editer, kate to go through this, for some reason they wrecked it with kde4 on linux so it only scrolls to the side and that really irritates me, so instead I'm going to reread and try to touch on some of this. To begin with, I don't write well late at night, morning and early afternoon is my best, so I take short cuts. The shortcut of touching on eastern traditions was not meant in a general, they know nothing way, it was meant more in the way that no religions, or spiritual traditions on earth, east/west from any discipline, actually contains the definitive answers, in other words, while I find some passages in the ancient Indic spiritual texts very interesting and am attracted to many varied writings, they don't define the soul. Basically you are, your consciousnes is, the Light, an infinite Soul. Now, it even gets more confusing when various traditions talk about soul/spirit and different forms of self. I mean that globally, substituting it for the whole you. If that is used incorrectly, its still my language, meaning definition and will stick with it.

People make spiritual progression into some kind of hurdles in absurd hardship that are meaningless and very much spring out controllers concepts. The truth is simple enough for a small child to understand.

Anway I will reread what you've written, but wish I had my editor. And I don't like booting into windows.

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The memories I have are all I need, when I need more, the push comes and I am downloaded with more. My assignment is to love and shine love, aside from handing in lots of reports on various things about real life in the trenches, that have been handed in to ETs, to one from the Orion Priesthood too, and also to my Family of Light. Its also getting family out, both my personal family and finding those whose energy sings out to me, they have to come home ,progress. Very important to bypass the body of info on earth, its not real, doesnt concern our lives, soul and purpose. I've been sharing with you what its really like all along here, the quantum phsyics meets the Beyond, the progression, the metorphically speaking infinite roll of film of our lives, and each clip is another us, that earth is akin to a testing grounds and for many already in this cosmos for ages, this is almost like a final exam, and its really hard for we've been in negative hands for a long time.

I can reach back to lifetimes on Mars, Lyra and even a pre-andromedan one, all human or human hybrid. I have family that I recognize and love in Scorpio, and Orion, also, Taurus/Pleaides. I recognize the lights in many, even in the dolphins and whales many are family here.

We need to free ppl, and its the most important thing, I am kept from credos, religious/spiritual teachings, and have not been allowed to delve into astrology, numerology, with the exception of visualizing and law of affinity which all are entitled to, and am not even allowed to mirror my shield. Because its not about fighting or defending, its about love. And love is all that is needed.

reply to post by Unity_99

The memories I have are all I need, when I need more, the push comes and I am downloaded with more

I would consider it an affront, and a grand offense if my knowledge of both self and world was completely at the mercy of some invisible, unknown presence. A presence who decided when, and if I needed to know more, or less about who I am, and what I am doing here.

We're not machines, not robots, and certainly not subservient slaves to some invisible Peoples who feel free to give and take from us what they please, whenever they please.

My assignment is to love and shine love

And my assignment is to think for myself, to be free, to live my life to it's fullest, and to understand all there is to understand about everything.

So while you spend your life on puppet-strings, living love from a Marionette Presence who won't show it's face, I will be living my own life.

aside from handing in lots of reports on various things about real life in the trenches

And what is real life, and what is fake life then? Do you depend entirely on this mysterious Overseer to tell you the difference? If Overseer says it's fake life you believe it's fake life?

When the Overseer says "jump", do you say "how high?"

that have been handed in to ETs, to one from the Orion Priesthood too

Such a misinformed view of astronomical existences.

Orion is only Orion right now because of where we are, where the stars are, and our current time in history. There will be no Orion constellation in a few thousand years. And guess what, if you left Earth you couldn't see the Orion constellation because it only exists from our vantage point.

There is no Galactic Orion Priesthood because the stars making up Orion are light-years apart. Not close together at all. It's called perspective, and living on Earth allows us to see the Hunter in the stars at night.

Its also getting family out, both my personal family and finding those whose energy sings out to me, they have to come home, progress

This is very shady, secretive, and possibly diabolical. They "have to come home" to have some kind of experiments/tests done on them so that they can "progress" forward.

That sounds like re-programming, brainwashing, and neurological alterations. That's evil, and goes against humanities unalienable rights.

Very important to bypass the body of info on earth, its not real, doesnt concern our lives, soul and purpose

The last time I checked ALL of Earthly info concerns exactly those things.

Religion, spirituality, healthy dieting, proper exercise and body-maintenance... all of it concerns our lives and how to live them, our souls and how to care for them, our purposes and meanings for being alive.

I've been sharing with you what its really like all along here

All you've been doing is "sharing" a bunch of memories about you belonging to some loving, caring family of dolphin/people/aliens who sent you here to endure horrific things because they love you.

the quantum phsyics meets the Beyond

What the Bleep Do We Know? doesn't actually know anything about Quantum Physics as a scientific unit. All of your theories on Universal connectedness are outlined in that film, and leading minds in Quantum Physics have gotten together numerous times to outline the quote-mining that went into proving the directors points.

Quantum physics does less to prove your theories, and does more to prove the Universal chemical/atomic connectivity of ALL things. Not only love and light things. But also evil, despicable, downright dastardly things too.

Please learn more about the New Age mumbo-jumbo you use before presenting it to someone who uses science as a foundation for his religious and spiritual beliefs. I know a lot of the angles you'd come from, and the common misconceptions concerning them.



The rest of your post slips into unproven, subjective, or unprovable content. Whether you remember dreams/memories of living on Mars and Lyra isn't important. I had a dream/memory last night that I lived in Metropolis and was in charge of an army of spiritual hybrid beings who were defending the Earth from an invading army of disfigured space-monsters. But it's not real.

Also, Taurus and Scorpio, like Orion have the same faults. See my section above on Orion to see why there's no "Taurian" or "Scorpio'on" race of peoples.



I know you think you're smart, but you seem to be reading the wrong sources. A lot of the things you speak about are entirely understood. Maybe if you stopped looked at New-Age crystal healing, and David Icke-like spiritual Matrix junk you could find some honest answers to your life, and it's conditions.

We humans are far more intelligent then you give us credit for. If "beings" like you are supposed to be the apex of Universal life and intelligence, then I am significantly more afraid for our Universe then I have ever been.

It's time for a coup.
A new leader in the Galactic White House.

You're like the Nixon's of the Galaxy, and we're the Gerald Ford's coming to set things right. I sense you'll try and kill us all if we do though, that gossamer thread of control is all you've got going for you now.

~ Wandering Scribe

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Wow that really hurt me deep Scribe.

Now answer me this question please and maybe a few others.

Why are you in the human form??

Also where does very advanced information comes from to you directly??

Do you know what the crown chakra is there truly for exactly??

What the human DNA really is??

To be honest that was quiet cold blooded no offense or anything just saying.


Anyway Love and Light to you my friend.

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I'm glad you can easily break up the posts like that, I need my kate back again. I will add each response on to this post in new edits I guess.

Well after I read it I realized I dont need to worry about finding my editor, it is nonsense, sorry. Sungaze, and ask for your HS, ask to learn why you're here, either now, or at the point of entry to this school, what it was about. Because nothing else matters but finding your true way, and what people think about the beyond, is less important than becoming yourself, waking up and releasing or cleasnsing the negativity here and reporting for duty and trying to help.

All I can do is nudge you have to find the way. There is no one credo or school of thought that has it though. Its best to do it with your own intuition and insight, and push the limits on your skills and consciousness.

Hint hint: note my message is the direct opposite of yours, while you speak of discounting other peoples experiences and proving things, I suggest everything in this world is an illusion, and that only your experiences and insights matter. The opposite of what you suggest. So, hint hint, nudge, nudge. Do you understand yet? The diamonds or things that are the most important to uncover are all subjective, not objective.

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