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posted on Apr, 11 2010 @ 10:37 PM
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Sweet Jesus people.

I go to bed for 4 hours, work for 8, and watch some TV with my dad - and you people post 800 videos, 36 threads, and 26,000 other things.

You'll have to pardon my short absence as I actually try to watch, read, follow the links to, and cover everything you've sent me in less than 24 hours.

I do agree with OrionTri though. If you've finally posted anything remotely resembling evidence for any of your billions of unsupported claims, thank you.

You'll have to give me some time to view all of these videos and links though. It takes you about 10 seconds to post it, it takes me the full length of the video to watch it, or several minutes to read it and confirm it's accuracy. I'll do my best to reply in a timely manner.

~ Scribe



posted on Apr, 11 2010 @ 10:52 PM
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reply to post by Unity_99
 


That video is not about "exposing" the views of the dark-siders (whom you have still yet to prove exist). What it is doing is demonstrating the maxims and theories of the Hermetic, esoteric, and Occult beliefs. It then espouses how theosophical societies, and fraternities have adopted these ancient maxims.

It then does a little bit about how our government, which was founded and built by members of the Masons and other theosophical societies, contains traces of these teachings. Which espouses nothing negative. My quoting of the Mason's history proves that the brethren exist not for diabolic and evil purposes.

Finally, that video tries to say these things:

Egypt = evil + Masons = Illuminati = 9/11

A complete non-sequitur since there is no evidence for ritualistic murder in Egypt, no evidence for Egypt being an evil occult society, and no evidence that the Masons are from Egypt (again, see my reference of their history). AND, finally, the Masons and Illuminati are two different groups. The video seems to ignore this fact.

Meaning, aside from a good overview of the principles of Hermetic magick and esoteric Occult theosophy, it is useless.

[edit on 11/4/10 by Wandering Scribe]



posted on Apr, 11 2010 @ 10:59 PM
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We all need to be a bowl of milk and let kittens drink out of us.


Bestiality, Shadow? I never knew you swung that way. Not being judgmental of course. It's just cool to finally meet someone who's totally "in to" animals.


Basically putting it be the bowl of milk and spread awareness to the kittens who are people that need our help.


Oh, wait. Never mind. Here I was, all psyched to have finally met someone who get's off on animals. And instead you just want me to let people drink me dry.


Deep with in is darkness but in darkness is also light. For this light can lit up the darkness. We need help people become aware of what is happening and how to stay safe in the future time.


Via Negativa my friend. To ignore the path of Darkness is to make the path of light meaningless. How can you measure light with no darkness to weigh it against?

You cannot be wholly complete if you discard the darkness. It is a sentient, formidable, force. Stand in the dark and it wraps itself around you. I'm not even being metaphorical. Go stand outside on a random night and feel how the dark wraps around you, concealing and protecting you.

Just some food for thought of course.



posted on Apr, 11 2010 @ 11:03 PM
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reply to post by AidanK
 


The first time I had a proper contact I freaked my heart started pumping and I was scared as hell. But yet then I had a feeling that this is normal and that they will not hurt me. I then kept trying not to freak out yet at the same time. Try living all your life, then something like this comes out of no where and actually is real.

In a general view of things it felt so real and I knew this was real. Yet I still could not believe it the first time. We are not alone never are we alone for we are one with everything. It is the actual principal that made me start understand. That the humankind is yet so limited of the knowledge of what our world contains and the very core foundation of what is around us.

We need to grow and blossom in the true understanding for yet there is so much we do not know. There shall we say be a time and place but yet there is not such thing as time. So there is just the place left and the time does not matter it can happen now,tomorrow, week, month, year or even this very second.

I hope I made sense of what I meant



posted on Apr, 11 2010 @ 11:09 PM
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reply to post by Wandering Scribe
 


You didn't understand the concept of my thoughts and the message I was trying to give you. But yet you still try to twist it around and make a claim that does not even fit my post. Look deep within to understand what I meant by the message Scribe and have a good day.

Some more Love and Light your way my friend.

[edit on 11-4-2010 by ShadowNinja]



posted on Apr, 11 2010 @ 11:30 PM
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The video jumps right in with 9/11, mystery school, names names, shows history, very well done, not quite in the way or order you explained it, but precisely, so well put together it was incredibly informative, and the proof is there, you'd have to believe in magick to think 1 in a trillion coincidences continually happen frequently, unless its done by design.





Bestiality, Shadow? I never knew you swung that way. Not being judgmental of course. It's just cool to finally meet someone who's totally "in to" animals.


Alright to be fair, I nearly fell of the chair, laughing.


[edit on 11-4-2010 by Unity_99]



posted on Apr, 11 2010 @ 11:36 PM
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OK, your method of responding... at least I believe you're responding to something here, is quite confusing. I'll do my best to wade through everything you've said and answer what I assume to be pieces directed at me.

You've also got about 3 hours of videos in this post. I may not respond to them in this response. It'd be a lot to respond to the videos, your quotes, and your comments. Keep an eye out for other responses detailing the 180ish minutes of videos you posted for me.

 


I'm not "accusing" or "judging" anyone in the first comment, Shadow. I am merely stating that there are scam-artists, hoaxers, and con-men out there who claim to be able to do psychic things, then charge you terrifying amounts of money for them to "perform" these feats for you.

At other times, these "psychics" will claim their abilities as a method for gaining popularity, control and influence over weaker-minded individuals. All in the hopes of gaining money, fortune, fame and everlasting servitude from these weaker-minded peons. Usually these people do not perform their abilities, but instead insist that "it should just be believed" because "my message of love/unity/escape/doom is more important than you seeing my abilities".

It is these people, like the Fox Sisters, who I am warning everyone about. I'm not pointing fingers at you or anyone else in this post. If other members on this board read into it that way, it is entirely their doing and not mine.

 


You do not need to "possess" psychic abilities to understand that con-men and frauds make it more difficult on those who do possess them. Yes, I know psychics of many different talents. And I know that their lives are hard enough without constant con-men creating fraudulent psychic testimony.

It is very depressing when no one believes how much you struggle with an ability, all because some jack-off went around preaching he was psychic and got 50 people killed so now no one believes anyone can be psychic.

So am I qualified? Yes. I work with psychics and I help them cope with entering their abilities into the real world. Like a precognitive dreamer entering the FBI. Or a clairvoyant seeking to enter ad campaigning. I work with real people, with real abilities, who are really struggling because of the negative light that con-men have cast on the whole avenue of psychic abilities.

 


If you have them, demonstrate them. Sorry, no, you've already "demonstrated" inaccurate psychic abilities. Demonstrate accurate psychic abilities now.

 


Where did all the animals and fossils come from? Abiogensis and then evolution. They are transitional forms, showing species connecting us to our ancient ancestors.

 


Quoted from your video:


This video is not about what is real and what is not, but rather how your perceptions of the world influence the experiences you have within it... The point: your perception is much more powerful than you think.


My question to you: what makes the video's author's perception of how we perceive things more potent than my perception of how we perceive things? Why exactly should I accept his perception of reality and existence, but not my own perception of reality and existence?


I mean if a group of people out there tell you this is the way it is, listen up Scribe these are the facts then I guess it should be taken as such is that right?


Entirely wrong. I don't believe in just their words. EVIDENCE is the key you're missing. Evidential reasoning, consisting of empirical proofs and valid assessments of outstanding research. Literally, Shadow, if you said to me "Love is the answer to all" and then showed me that love was in fact the answer to all, I would believe you. Instead you say things like "I am psychic and I have a message of awakening" and I ask you to please demonstrate that you are psychic, because by seeing so I will better be equipped to judge the validity of your message of awakening. Instead you choose to demonstrate inaccurate psychic abilities or none at all, and insist that your message should be listened to. That is the difference you seem to be missing.


I'm looking forward to getting into darwinism


There is no such thing as "darwinism", because the theory of evolution is not a religion.

 



Are you suggesting that perhaps the languages we used in this day and age came from elsewhere outside of the homosapien bloodlines?


Language is a reflection of concepts which exist with, or without, sentient interference. Take the word "red" for instance: red can mean either something colored red - like this, or it can mean something consisting of every single color except red, which is what red truly is. All colors are actually an amalgamation of every color but the one we call it by. This is because the red of a red object is the one pigment that said object rejects.

I hope that didn't make your head explode.

Now, red, would exist whether or not humans attached those two meanings to it, or not. Because red is a concept in nature, which we as sentient beings, identified with a word to help us recognize that concept. The same goes for blue, green, orange and the rest of the color wheel.

Evolution works the same way. It is a process, occurring naturally, in nature. As demonstrated by my link to the fossil record. Humans, being the sentient creatures we are, recognized this process occurring. We saw it as a legitimate concept in nature, and thusly titled it with a word.

Extinction follows the same lines. Animals die, and entire species die away never to be born again. This cocept, this process, needs no definition, but being sentient creatures we attach one: extinction, to help us identify it.

Out of space, continued below.

~ Wandering Scribe



posted on Apr, 11 2010 @ 11:53 PM
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I shall give you a simple answer to your questions. Look deep with in and you know you feel that all this is true and so so real. I want you to stop and look at things around you to feel the things around you. It is all energy and the things we make with our thoughts and mind. See things deeper and try to intake it purely to a different point of view. Forget everything you have learned and see the things around you from a different perspective.

Just a tip you can do it if you want


I am always happy to chat and give advice if needed be.

I hope you are having a great day.



posted on Apr, 12 2010 @ 12:01 AM
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Have you ever considered that time is merely an illusion? If time lets say is an illusion then how are things changing or evolving I wonder? Do you ever wonder? Einstein among many others sure did, based on earlier presented information and videos perhaps it's time to think just a little deeper. Take you're sweet time and think about it Scribe, there is all the time in the world if time is an illusion and does not truly exist.


I do consider time to be an illusion. Time is a concept most of mankind has attached to things to help us locate them on a linear spectrum. Of course, "time" is a measure of the speed at which light travels as well. So time does exist, as a mathematical and scientific concept.

Of course, human cultures the world over have differing methods for measuring time. Some see it as an endless march forward. Some measure it according to important landmarks in history, others keep no track of time believing instead that the only important moment is right now, and what comes next. All valid assessments of time.

Evolution however, is not a concept of time. Evolution occurs whether you count the years or not. There's no "date" set on when evolution first began. It has always been occurring. It is even occurring right now. You, Shadow, are a transitional form who is proof of evolution.

I love theories on time. I was part of a thread on ATS strictly about time for a little while before everyone else ventured off to other forums. If you want to talk about time, I would love to.

 



The Translator says:
Wrong answer, "Some stones are best left unturned" is not that difficult for most to figure out. Think just a little deeper, you can do it Scribe I believe in you.


1. The "translator" would be me. Since I made the translation. You would be the speaker.

2. I understand what it means. I don't believe you though. So you're either lying, or just doing whatever you can to stall for enough time to come up with a convincing con.

So, take a picture of the device and post it. Doesn't need an explanation or anything. Just take a picture of your hand with the device and post it. Let us on the board debate about it. No liability in your hands.

 



The Translator says:
Wrong answer,
Guess again.


See 1 above.

Ummm... from here:


Everyone has dreams from time to time, sometimes certain individuals receive visions and they actually get to remember and understand them.


 



The Translator says:
Wrong answer,
What part of "Some stones are best left unturned" do you not get?


See the point above to see the point 1 above that one.

What part of "you already posted all about them on an internet forum to me, so posting more about them couldn't do any worse than you've done" do you not get?

 



So you do believe in ET abductions I see, everyone's gotta start somewhere in this seemingly real world full of mind boggling illusions.


If you still believed, 500 posts in, that I didn't believe in any ET existence, you are really, really dull.

This "seemingly real world" is more substantial and solid than anything you've offered me.

 



Interesting, how sure are you or shall I say how sure do you think you are? Think you are is a big part of the equation on this one.


This is irrelevant to the topic. Intelligent minds don't "think" about a concept. They prove it.

 



It's funny how there are so many flaws found in the darwinism theory yet so many fall for it so quickly and easily.


1. Darwinism doesn't exist.
2. The Theory of Evolution is not his alone.
3. this.
4. What's wrong with it?


A big bang, yeah that started it all let me tell ya, sounds like a real winner theory considering all that's currently in existence on Earth not mentioning the vast Universe.


1. It wasn't a literal explosion.
2. this.
3. It's a singularity expanding under intense heat and pressure.
4. You obviously know nothing of the Big Bang.


A big bang from nothingness, what an amazing miracle considering the fact that homosapiens are still alive on such a wonderful green planet full of life with bananas, air and water.


1. There wasn't nothing. There was a singularity.
2. Your lack of knowledge on these subjects is telling.
3. Nice straw-men


The Moon primarily consists of titanium, calcium, aluminum, iron, oxygen, and potassium.
Earth primarily consists of nitrogen, carbon dioxide, hydrogen, oxygen and water vapor.
Does anything seem out of place or ring a bell?


Zone of habitation. The sun's rays and the like allow the Earth to support life for a small sector of space. Too much closer, or further away and life would not exist.

Science. It's yummy. Dig in.

Running out of space, continued below.



posted on Apr, 12 2010 @ 12:17 AM
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I do not see the point we can not stop going at each other every now and then. Scribe lets stop and work together bring things in, help people wake up to things around them. Even though time is an illusion we have wasted so much of it


Lets bring in good you tube videos and things that can help people truly awaken and realize who they really are. What you say friend you up to this


Peace and Love man. Let us put away these sharp toys and be civilized there is no reason to go on at each other.

I would love to hear some of your theories on time


Love and Light.



posted on Apr, 12 2010 @ 12:22 AM
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It's amazing that some people out there like yourself as an example no pun intended need the approval of others yes of course without having a certified peer-reviewed journal article something absolutely, undoubtedly cannot be correct.


Nope. Wrong. It can be correct. I believe in all kinds of pseudo-science. But only when I see demonstrations and evidence of them. Which you have yet to provide.


If the judge says you're guilty "Hey keep quiet you did it" there are no mistakes and of course if the Scientific community agrees on something and especially if they have a peer-reviewed journal article then it must be true, do not question the conclusions/decisions or system ever.


No... that's not quite it. Try the other door. You know, the one that says:

Science is a system of falsifiable claims that are tested through the scientific method. If the claim holds water it becomes a theory and is tested again, and again, and again. If, after decades, possibly centuries of testing, the theory still proves true it becomes a law. These laws however, are always subject to change as man's understanding of nature and existence is always evolving.

I believe it is you who posits to have the answer to everything and feels no need to ever change your claim or evolve it as new evidence is presented. Not science.

Are you really this ignorant? Or are you just an amazing poe?

 



Well they used to actually hang people for claiming the world to be flat and I'm calling it as it is. Evolution and the understanding that you have on darwinism or shall I say illusion is simply (a no brainer) and flat out wrong, wrong, wrong. So hang me for being right like the rest of em who once believed the world to be round.


Ummm, this is really retarded. The world is oval-like, oblong and spherical.

Are you saying you're also a flat-earth society member?

Jee-zus Christ are you lost to all rational thought!?

 



What place do homosapiens have in this world?
Are homosapiens truly at the top of the food chain with true power and dominion over the Earth as most are led to believe?
Could it ever be any other way is that even a slight possibility or do the peer reviewed journal articles say differently? Is it possible in your eyes that other higher dimensional much more intelligent lifeforms exist that can interact within our seemingly real homosapien third dimensional domain?


No one ever said homosapiens are the top of the food chain. We're just animals like everything else. We eat, get eaten, and die like everything else.

"true power and dominion over the earth"... ever seen a man stand up to a tornado, or a monsoon, or even a fire? Nature has dominion over the earth, and nature, she acts according to laws. Which we as mankind, have learned to recognize.

Could a spirit realm exist? Yup. Do they automatically have to be vastly superior to us? Why would they? They're what's left of us. Take away the majority of a thing and usually it doesn't work quite as well.

Don't bother talking about "3d" and "11d" junk with me. They're called plates, and each one contains a plane. These plates with planes are stacked above and below us (Yay! Hermetics!).

 



The Translator says:
Wrong answer,
Judgmental are we, not the best trademark


This "translator" error is starting to make me laugh.

And you are hypocritical, as my responses have proven.

 



Scribe, Scribe, Scribe, how old do you really believe Earth to be?
How long have homosapiens existed on planet Earth as you believe or think you know it?


Couple billion years old.
Couple million years existing.

Any more questions?

 



I see hundreds of thousands of years with nothing but horses according to history and shall we say according to you're own personal belief system.Then one foggy Christmas eve out of the blue I might add Rudolph with his nose so bright suddenly from nowhere guided the slay tonight. And within a very short time mankind moves from fire pits to the moon, trains, planes and automobiles, what a gigantic leap for man wouldn't ya say?


Actually, I wouldn't. 10 million years ago we discovered fire. 10 thousand years ago we domesticated animals. 6000 years ago we made clay houses. Within the past 2000 years we created technology.

That's a long, long time. Considering the life-span of a human back then was only 20 - 35 years. Do some math, Shadow, see how many "lifetimes" of 20-35 fit into 10 million.


how many X's does 100 divide into 100,000? Let's say humans have been around for 100,000 years minimum, what makes these last 100 years so much more special than the other 100,000?


ANTHROPOLOGY! It's a science! It exists! Take it and learn that 100,000 is no where near the amount of time we've existed!


Do you think electricity or other forms of energy were ever used or discovered in ancient times?


All forms of energy (electric, wind, water, heat, etc) were used in ancient times. Your point?

 



Knowledge acquired from whom and where?
Was it something you read again?


No it wasn't.

My demands are on the post you're quoting from. Quip-pro-quo, Shadow.

 



That's great Scribe and I would love to hear all about it. Let us open up the doors and further discuss the above subjects shall we? I'm sure you're quite familiar with many ancient archaeological discoveries then?


Certainly.

 



Well sure if you studied it and learned it in college and believe/think you know it then but of course you must know it.


Learning things does mean knowing them.

 


Well, I did it. It took 20,000 characters, three full posts and... well, not much of my intellect to respond to your posts. I was expecting more from you. Oh well.

Maybe you'll do better next time.

Oh, and your response to my first response, it a cop-out.

Your response to my second message, I accept.

~ Scribe



posted on Apr, 12 2010 @ 04:00 PM
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magick is the act of bringing about change in accordance with the true will of the magician performing the act. Magick is not luck, it is not coincidence, it is not dark or light. It is only the act of changing the environment in accordance with the true will.

The video actually begins by discussing astrological tenets and how they relate to Hermetic principle (as above, so below). It then discusses how theosophical societies like the Golden Dawn utilize these Hermetic principles in their occult studies. It demonstrates this by showing a visual of the Rosae Rubeae & Aureae Crucis.

After this it does a brief lecture on a Masonic cutting board containing astrological symbolism. Which is followed by the reflecting pools dialogue about the Capitol and the various reflecting pools present around it. Which is fine, because George Washington, Thomas Jefferson and Benjamin Franklin all had a hand in Masonic organizations. So there's no reason our Capitol should not reflect divine ordinances of better living, kinder souls, charity and good works. Which is what Freemasonry is all about.

Only after all of this does it move into mundane astrology and try to say that the "stars aligned" to cause 9/11. Except there is no gravitational effect that any planet in our solar system can have on another that is not automatically over-ruled by the gravity of our SUN. So anything about the "stars and planets" aligning to cause 9/11 is total bunk.

9/11 was the result of radical Islamic Muslims; people who believe the words of the Qur'an a little too much. Radicalism which teaches it's members that every heathen must still "submit" (literally, Islam means "submit" and a Muslim means "one who has submitted"). So these radical terrorists hijacked some planes and crashed them into the towers.

It is highly disrespectful to everyone who lost loved ones in the catastrophe to make up asinine and absurd claims about "Masons" and the "Illuminati" when the facts, evidence and videotapes by Osama Bin Laden all point to radical Muslim factions being responsible.

There's a words for people who utilize national tragedies as a means to further their own radical racism and prejudices towards other races and groups like this: scum, filth, garbage, trash. The West Burrow Baptists claiming "God hates Fags" and "God hates America" because of America's homosexual policies are one examples of these kinds of people. Alqueda is another.

Please don't tell me that you, Unity, are yet a third example of the kind of person who will take the innocent deaths of thousands at the hands of radical Islamic terrorism, and try to curb it to fit your own misconceived notions about Freemasonry, the no-longer-existent Illuminati, and your lack of understanding about concepts which you, well, lack understanding of, like astrology.

 


I'm glad you laughed. I'm sure everyone laughed. That was the point.



posted on Apr, 12 2010 @ 04:38 PM
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The video begins by explaining the principles on which it is basing its theme, which is all about 9/11, from the first video, until the last, but, the creator of this, knew that most of us, including myself, would have little clue as to what this meant, and therefore it went into detail explaining it. There is another one, related to the same topic, by the same producer, more of a slide show presentation, 11 videos long, that has 9/11 in the title.

Thus, really not understanding what you're talking about. I believe that this is being presented by a WHITE SQUARE practitioner, who has inside knowledge, but thats just me.
White/black, duality.

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/9a7dd07c89d7.jpg[/atsimg]

Oh dear, I now can decipher this picture. The two pillars of Jachin and Boaz, with the third, the Altar in the center, Solomon's Temple, and the priestess, (usually depicted with the pomegranates in the middle) and a checkerboard mystery school duality floor!



Part 4:

In the same biblical chanper,1 Kings ch: 7 Vs:20 they are described as being decorated with pomegranates, a feature surrounding the tarrot packs high priestess who sits between the very same two pillars, one black with a B on it, and one white with a J on it. It also has the II twin numeral or gemini symbol.

--Boaz and Jachin magically represent polarities of dark and light: Dark/Female/Birth/North/South and Light/Male/Death/South/North.

--Hall writes "IN the mysterious Sephirothic Tree of Life, these two Pillars symbolise Severity & Mercy."

--The tree of life is of course the Kabbalah, a multi symbolic magical map of consciousness whose spheres represent the planets of astrology and also to tarot cards.

--Boaz severity and Jachin mercy


--If the twin towers were built to represent Boaz and Jachin, then where is the third pillar?

--The Great Spherical Caryatid! A fountain feature at the base of the towers known as the sphere, it was commmissioned simultaneously as work began on the two towers in the 1960s, seemingly integral to the complexes originial design. Its artistic title is: The Great Spherical Caryatid. named by its designer Fritz Koenig.

A Caryatid architurally is a replacement pillar.
Our missing mystical column!

--This Caryatid was set to rotate once very 24 hours, it was also made of 52 pieces of Bronze the alloy used to forge the original twin pillar Boaz and Jachin. There are 52 weeks in the year and this gives it a strong resonance to the earth and on the tree of life the earth rules the 10th sephira is known as Malkuth, between the two pillars, and is said to resonate strongly with the first sephira,Kether at its opposite extremety. It is said kabbalistically that Malkuth is in Kether and Kether is in Malkuth, As Above, So Below.



Do You Believe in Magick? The Occult significance of 9/11. pt 1

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posted on Apr, 12 2010 @ 05:01 PM
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Are we referring to the same video here? I'm watching the "Do you Believe in Magick?" video. Which clearly starts by explaining a little about Astrology and how ancient Egypt utilized it.

I've watched the video from end-to-end, and while I know it is only one part of a series, it does in fact cover the things that I've mentioned in my post, in pretty much the same order. 9/11 and the astrological alignment making up the latter part of the video.

Are we seeing two different videos? Because my responses have been in reference to the video you posted in your comment.

 


You can just now decipher such a simplistic theosophical image? There's a lot going on it in, which I assume you only know rudimentary things about.

The two pillars, Jachin and Boaz have another name too: the Pillar of Severity, and the Pillar of Mercy. They are an age-old construct of religious philosophy: the destroyer and the creator. The Oroborus, the tail-eater. Between these two is the Middle Pillar, the pillar of Understanding which teaches that both Severity and Mercy have an important role in the world and Universal mechanism.

The priestess is representative of the animus of humanity. The feminine strength which gives birth to new life. The White Light reaches down from the heavens (astrology) and illuminates her, enlightening her. The Priestess being the bearer of sacred knowledge where as the Priest is the bearer of human and carnal knowledge. The sacred and the profane.

The Pomegranate use found in theosophical societies is another religious bit of iconography. In Greek mythology Hades is lined with Pomegranates, in relation to Persephone, whom Hades stole away from the world deep into the Underworld. Demeter, Persephone's mother, was so ravaged by her daughters abduction that she vowed to never let the Earth produce seeds again unless Zeus reclaimed her daughter. Zeus was unable to fully complete this task, Hades claiming that because Persephone and her were wed she must remain part of the year with him in the Underworld. This is Winter. She returns in the Spring, when new seeds begin to bloom. Knowledge of the interactions of the Overworld (as above) and the Underworld (so below) is a big part of Occult philosophy. The Pomegranate is the ancient symbol of Persephone.

 


As for the Twin Towers representing the two towers, you're wrong. There are 7 WTC buildings. Not just 2 and a fountain. Even if they did only erect 2, why could not any 2 buildings erected anywhere in the world represent the 2 pillars? There is no "third pillar" per se, it is a metaphorical union of the 2 other pillars. The conspiracy theorist who wrote your quoted material isn't quite as intelligent as you think. Sorry to disappoint you.

 


Here, have some fun with a real occult and esoteric symbol hidden in broad daylight:

Old Mother Hubbard
Went to her cupboard
To get her poor dog a bone
When she got there
The cupboard was bare
And so the poor dog had none



Or, how about another?

Little Miss Muffet
Sat on a tuffet
Eating of curds and weigh
Up came a big spider
And sat down beside her
And frightened Miss Muffet away



Have fun with those.

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posted on Apr, 12 2010 @ 05:43 PM
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Without giving too much away for others:

1. The cupboard is Catholic

2. Patience
3. ... Aww you edited the 3rd one *sadpanda* Though there's no clear origin for that one anyway


- Phoenix



posted on Apr, 12 2010 @ 05:56 PM
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Not bad Phoenix, not bad. I won't reveal the real meanings until Unity, Shadow and anyone else take a stab at them. OK, maybe for you on my super-secret other page. But not here until they take a stab at it.

I removed the third because I could not get it format correctly. I'll try again here, just for you


 


Humpy Dumpty sat on a wall;
Humpty Dumpty had a great fall;
All the king's horses
And all the king's men
Couldn't set up Humpty Dumpty again.



[edit on 12/4/10 by Wandering Scribe]



posted on Apr, 12 2010 @ 06:09 PM
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Do You Believe in Magick? Part I

I took notes, I'll include what I took from part one, as I said before there are 7 parts.



Part I:

--Astrology has been around for thousands of years. Egyptian night sky depiction is shown with the constellations and their panthenistic gods and goddesses.

--Eclyptic, the apparent path of the sun as seen from the earth. The celetrial bodies are followed as they past through it, divided into the 12 zodiacs, and they believed in channeling their energies below,and reflected this in their archicture. Ex. Egypt Pryamids built to reflect the celestrial allignement of Orion's Belt.

According to the ancient Hermatic Principle: As Above, So Below.

--In depth astrology unlike our superficial kind follows all the bodies and their influence on each other especially Saturn and even Pluto.

(Note this actually the basis for Sacred Geometry)

--This is the astrology that mystery schools and occult practicioners use, such as The Golden Dawn.

The Free Masons whose members have included America's founding members including Geroge Washington, use astrology in their symbolic art.

Here we see a masonic tracing board whose royal arch can be seen adorned with the signs of the zodiac. On the masonic apron, the all seeing eye of horus.

At the George Washington monument we see a Masonic compass, also adorned with another egyptian all seeing eye.

--But what of the compass and square and its illuminati symbolism? Shows the tarot card the magician with his classic hand symbol, As Above, So Below. Essential concepts in the occult.

--Symbols of As Above, So Below: A triangle pointing up. Accompanied by a second triangle pointing downwards. When combined they from a hexagram, Star of David.

Removing the base for the triangles one can see the outline for the common Masonic symbol of the square and compass. It then shows the symbol of the reflection in water that they believe is natures reflection of this principal. And then it shows pictures of all the notable structures with their pools that reflect them, including: The US Capital, the Lincoln Memorial, and the Supreme Court.

--Washington DC was built according to Hermatic Principals. It was laid out to reflect what was going on in the stars, you have a right angle triangle surrounding the constellation of virgo. This was partly refelected in the layout of the Federal triangle, the White House, Washinton Monument and Capital Building, were desinged in a right triangle according to the star pattern above!

--9/11: There was an important astrological allignment between two of the most important astrological powerful celestrial bodies: Saturn and Pluto!

A highly destructive aspect: opposition!

--Saturn: Planet Form/Structure. Materialistic Power.

Saturn on 9/11 was in the sign of Gemini TWINS! Gemini also multiplicity.

--Pluto: Destruction/Transformation. Pluto on 9/11 was in the sign of saggitarius, the sign of Religion, the sign of Foreign Cultures, and Long Distance Travel.

--An As Above So Below reflection?

--Are the illuminati still performing ritualistic occult sacrifices as As Above So Below connotations?


This is the one I posted, and all the other parts go into very thorough detail of this entire theme?

By the way, this is my first experience of looking into this mystery at the advice of someone who is truly knowledgeable.

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posted on Apr, 12 2010 @ 06:16 PM
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part 2


part 3


part 4


part 5


part 6

correction, there are 6 in total.

The second one continues with:



Part Two:

--compare the Saturn Opposition/Destruction aspect with what is symbolized: materialistic power, twins, multiplicity and destruction, transformation, foreign cultures, religion (Islam)

--Gemini ruled by mercury the winged messenger = communication. Saturn whose symbolism also = restriction, while in Gemini can be said to be: The Restriction of Communication.

In the Official explanation, Norad and the FAA suffering serious setbacks in communication.

--More as above so below was cemented by the twin towers being completed in 1971 when Saturn entered Gemini. But it wasnt until 2 years later, April 4th, 1973, when the opening cermemony was held, when SATURN OCCUPIED THE SAME SPOT in Gemini that it did during 9/11! Another remarkable as above so below symbology.
(publically opened and publically closed with exact same mid Gemini position)


Roughly half my notes for part 2. They're very good, I'd watch them all, and then understand the date the Rwanda massacre began, I have heard it was by the numbers, the Haiti quakes, and anything coming up in the near future, be it another false flag, catastrophe, or the SHTF scenario.



posted on Apr, 12 2010 @ 06:18 PM
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Indeed, that's why I didn't put the full meanings that I know of them
Give everyone else a chance, coz I'm nice like that


As for the third one, like I said, no clear reference to a particular person though there was a theory based off a spoof verse in the 50's I think
And apparantly the subject name in the verse was a type of ale boiled with brandy


Thank you btw, I'm now going to see what other meanings I can find


- Phoenix



posted on Apr, 12 2010 @ 06:56 PM
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Originally posted by Wandering Scribe
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Not bad Phoenix, not bad. I won't reveal the real meanings until Unity, Shadow and anyone else take a stab at them. OK, maybe for you on my super-secret other page. But not here until they take a stab at it.

I removed the third because I could not get it format correctly. I'll try again here, just for you


 


Humpy Dumpty sat on a wall;
Humpty Dumpty had a great fall;
All the king's horses
And all the king's men
Couldn't set up Humpty Dumpty again.



[edit on 12/4/10 by Wandering Scribe]


The meanings??? Lets see, lets go your typical orthodix, 1950s uninformed answers, in place of truth, I'm referring to how you respond to Shadow Ninja's questions.

I am going to let him answer you but my two older children would have got it a little better.


Also what I deciphered there, its a pretty good guess that its the altar, since I know there would be a third pillar, but I've never studied occult things, not in any form, now this is based on two things, research for awareness, and an odd synchronicity with the information, understanding this makes unraveling other things easier..

In reality, I consider this to be an example of how good educational degrees are wasted on these supposed elites, it makes me feel rather ill.




[edit on 12-4-2010 by Unity_99]

[edit on 12-4-2010 by Unity_99]



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