My expiriences from 10 and up

@ Unity

Thanks for posting the full series of videos detailing the conspiracy and it's relation to astrology. I'll be sure to watch them.

While I disagree with the conclusion that they're heading towards, I do agree that they have almost nailed the teachings of esoteric secret societies perfectly. Not all of the teachings mind you, these orders and practices have thousands of years of depth behind them. No matter how many videos you have it cannot get to the full depth and breadth of their work.

I feel we may have to forever agree to disagree on whether or not a couple of radical Islamic terrorists were able to astrologically plot a terrorism attack which started a chain reaction of S.H.T.F intensity.

I'll always be in opposition to this view until 2012 comes and goes, only then will we know for sure what the truth is.

Somehow though, I am of the inkling that you will forever believe astrology is evil and that the Freemasons, Illuminati and other secret societies are behind it all.

We will have to agree to disagree. Fair enough?



@ Unity

Lets see, lets go your typical orthodix, 1950s uninformed answers, in place of truth, I'm referring to how you respond to Shadow Ninja's questions.

I will await Shadow's responses. However, I am actually curious which of my answers you consider to be "1950s Orthodox answers". Would you be so kind as to point out where these answers are at so I can go find their counterpart in the 1950s mentality?

Also what I deciphered there, its a pretty good guess that its the altar, since I know there would be a third pillar, but I've never studied occult things, not in any form

It shows that you haven't. The occult has made up a majority of my life and studies. So I am intimately familiar with it's workings.

now this is based on two things, research for awareness, and an odd synchronicity with the information, understanding this makes unraveling other things easier

The occult is an amalgamation of concepts, archetypes and myths from the world over and time throughout the ages. The lessons are not new, the symbols are not fresh, and the teachings are hardly centered specifically in one place and time.

Such is the diversity of the occult, and why a true venture into it takes a lifetime of practice and experience.

If you find truths in the occult relating to your own life experiences you'll need to re-evaluate what your perception of the world and life is. Occult teachings are not about extra-terrestrials and multi-dimensional beings. Every occult teaching deals with mankind, man's possibilities and the ultimate freedom of any and all races (extra-terrestrial or godly) with ultimate union and existence as oblivion.

I'll relax though, you're fresh to the occult scene, so I won't confuse you with the deeper knowledge of occult things.



@ Unity

Those nursery rhymes are meant for you, Unity. Not just you though. Anyone is welcome to comment on them. You though, are espousing a knowledge and exposure to occult teachings. Serious students of the occult would be able to recognize the occult messages hidden within such rhymes.

Again though, anyone is welcome to comment on them, but initially they were directed at you.



@ Phoenix

Awww, you're so sweet to let everyone else have a stab at them. Have a star!

There are many, many ways of interpreting these little nursery rhymes. Several are political, and related to the era in which they became popular. Which is all fine and good, I have no problem accepting that most things in life come with multiple meanings.

The meanings I am looking for though, concern occult philosophy. Which is the subject matter that Unity is now approaching. A subject matter which has been a cornerstone of my life for the majority of it.

When she says she is pursuing it on the word of one who is "truly knowledgeable", I can say that I am like this "phantom" word-giver. The occult, the esoteric, the pagan, archetypal, mythical, mystical, metaphysical and magickal have been the cornerstones of my life.

Which is why I posted several little nursery rhymes for her. They all contain occult teachings and philosophies relating to the Qabalistic Tree of Life, the Pillars of Severity and Mercy, the 4 elements of nature, the Axis Mundi, and Eastern metaphysical thoughts.

I'm waiting for someone to talk about those. All of these people with connections to divine and extra-dimensional figures should have no problem deciphering them.

Here I wait, patience everlasting.

reply to post by Wandering Scribe


Hello Scribe,

Love & Light to you my friend.

1. Darwinism doesn't exist.

Have ever researched the word?
All you really need to do is type the word Darwinism in google or yahoo.
These links should help.
www.newworldencyclopedia.org...
en.wikipedia.org...
www.talkorigins.org...
www.thefreedictionary.com...
plato.stanford.edu...
en.wikipedia.org...

My question to you: what makes the video's author's perception of how we perceive things more potent than my perception of how we perceive things?

Did you watch the video's yet?

Why exactly should I accept his perception of reality and existence, but not my own perception of reality and existence?

How about Scientific facts?
That's specifically why I selected some of these videos especially just for you.
Please watch the video's and then we can further discuss.

I would start with this video first:

You've also got about 3 hours of videos in this post. I may not respond to them in this response. It'd be a lot to respond to the videos, your quotes, and your comments. Keep an eye out for other responses detailing the 180ish minutes of videos you posted for me.

Love & Light!

reply to post by Wandering Scribe


Ah ha! I see, I was more going for the litteral basis of the Rhymes

* Puts on her thinking cap *

1. Isis and Osiris
2. Malkah and Death
3. Egg of Spirit and the Abyss

Possibly wrong, but it was a fun search

- Phoenix


[edit on 13-4-2010 by phoenix_zephyr]

Hi ShadowNinja,

reply to post by ShadowNinja

Thank you for sharing your experiences and especially thanks for your great patience with certain people. You have shown a higher maturity level than some in this thread.

I have also been using the above video you linked in other threads, it's a good one.

Best Wishes!

Aww but things would be dull without some immaturity



- Phoenix

Edit: Disclaimer - I in no way intend this to offend, just trying to add some light humour to the discussion

[edit on 15-4-2010 by phoenix_zephyr]

reply to post by phoenix_zephyr


lol thanks for the funny

Does any one have information about a ET device that the humans referred to as the Apple Of Eden.

reply to post by ShadowNinja


Umm, why do humans call it the apple of Eden? Just curious.

reply to post by Wandering Scribe


I think its just his wording. He's had a lot of visions and experiences lately, that suggest what is coming may soon be arriving but its up to him to share if he is able to.

This is something he's on a search related to something he was shown.

reply to post by Unity_99


Fair enough, Unity.

Except that he said people call it the Apple of Eden. Meaning it is not just something he's seen in a vision.

Whatever the Apple of Eden is, Shadow's saying that people know about it and have called it that.

I'm just curious why these people have chosen that name for it.

reply to post by Wandering Scribe


It is something he saw, he didnt share the details but he's on a search for answers now. He just worded it awkwardly thats all.

reply to post by Unity_99


My apologies for not believing you, but he clearly said "that the humans referred to as the Apple of Eden".

If this was just an awkward way of wording something, pray tell what the original message was supposed to be. What else can this mean?

I'm not even going to bother with whether or not Shadow was having visions. I have my own opinions about all of your psychic claims. This is simply a question of words.

Why call it the Apple of Eden, and if he didn't mean to say that "humans referred to as the Apple of Eden", why would he type that out?

This is what he's refering to me thinks

- Phoenix

reply to post by phoenix_zephyr


Oooooo boy. I really, really, really hope that's not it. 'cause if Shadow's trying to use videogames as a substructure for his obviously self-invented aliens... he might just get sued.

We'll have to wait for Shadow to come back and clear this mystery up once and for all.

Translation of the above: he'll never mention it again now that you've cracked it wide open.

reply to post by phoenix_zephyr


Now it may just be the conspiracist in me, but after playing that game, i picked up so many moments where "messages" were given; well not messages, but more of little hints at things, almost like inside info. At the end of the game - and if you have it and haven't finished it, sorry - they discuss the solar flares and a big disaster destroying Earth.

Oh, and the game is about the Templars still existing and organising secret plans and doing general evil things; as the game highlights in particularly, "trying to form a New Worlds Order."

Oh, and the main character is called Altair.

Oh, and towards the end you meet with an ancient alien who created Earth and is warning you of the problems ahead and informing you about the general Ancient Astronaut theory.

Oh, and the game touches heavily on many conspiracies such as Free Energy, as a section of the game is about Nikola Tesla; the Governments hidden knowledge; a fair bit of the game touches on Nazism, the Occult and Hitler.

One two many things really.

[edit on 17-4-2010 by OrionTri]

[edit on 17-4-2010 by OrionTri]

reply to post by phoenix_zephyr


That makes sense on what we were talking about last night, because my son has both those games but I can't discuss what he said happened and I believe its something he watched on youtubes about that game. Something he saw activated some memories, but it was not clear, and he didn't explain fully what he meant, and its up to him to share or not, concerning what he's experiencing or his interpretations of this.

Originally posted by Unity_99
reply to post by phoenix_zephyr

 

That makes sense on what we were talking about last night, because my son has both those games but I can't discuss what he said happened and I believe its something he watched on youtubes about that game. Something he saw activated some memories, but it was not clear, and he didn't explain fully what he meant, and its up to him to share or not, concerning what he's experiencing or his interpretations of this.

Hang on now, is ShadowNinja your son???

reply to post by AidanK


No, he's from Australia, and began writing to me, almost a year ago. Roughly the same age as my second oldest, and he writes to a few people, shares experiences, asks questions. Also, answers a few questions, sometimes well.

[edit on 17-4-2010 by Unity_99]

reply to post by Unity_99


Ahh, thanks. I hope I didn't sound too confused. I've been trying to follow along and understand thing. I must say it's all very interesting.

Thanks again.
Aidan

So, Orion, what you're trying to say then is that everything Shadow has said thus far has been straight lifted from a video game? I haven't played the game, so I'm completely trusting your explanation of the game and it's contents.

Assuming that he IS just using lifted video game material to try and persuade people into following and believing him... isn't that some kind of copyright infringement, or form of plagiarism?

I'm not too familiar with how exactly those things work. Does Shadow need to be making money off of it, or does just using it to spread mass panic and fear count?

Anyone here know how copyright or plagiarism suits work? Good to know though, that someone has found the source of 90% of Shadow's claims.

Well done OrionTri.

~ Scribe