My expiriences from 10 and up

www.hindustantimes.com...
While I'm looking around for the pdf I found this, India finding tunnels under the surface of the moon, and it does come to mind that they would rather destroy the moon and mars than give up their secrets!

Though planetary destruction is highly unlikely. But blowing up evidence is really realistic. Maybe its an indication of one of those OOPS kind of moments, they do some real damage that has consequences, possibly to earth. They could create some major chunks heading our way.




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reply to post by ShadowNinja


Your link features heavily on the Masons and the Swastika. Anyone with any knowledge of symbols or secret societies would know these two things:

• The Masons are a fraternity, a brotherhood dedicated to becoming closer to God. The brotherhood is based off of ancient pagan mystery cults who practiced ritual and symbolic rites to initiate themselves into the greater mysteries of the universe and God. Nothing evil about them at all.

• The Svastika/Swastika is a symbol representing the consistency of the sun and moon in their orbits around the Earth. It is also a mandala representing balance and universal power. Hitler, who stole 90% of his occult symbols, utilized it for just those effects. It is not evil at all. It is a common sign among the Hindus and Buddhists.

As for the sculpture and mural: just because something looks scary, or displays torments does not mean it is a sign of evil and despicable anti-world cults. Hieronymus Bosch made some of the most absurd and despicable images in all of artistic history. However, his work hangs proudly in museums and galleries the world over because of the sheer genius behind it. So no, the mural and sculpture add no evil or villainy to the airport.

Only to the untrained eye and the unenlightened mind do these symbols and works represent some vast underground secret conspiracy for the destruction and annihilation of the human race. To anyone who's done actual research among these groups, and not just listened to David Icke and similar fear-mongering, there is nothing evil at all in anything that is on that link.

Nice try though.

reply to post by Wandering Scribe


Anyone who knows anything heh? Really! You think they're all that. The swaztika is an older symbol linked to solar or sun worship and polar shifts.

www.newdawnmagazine.com...

Built in the unique architectural mould of nordic Asgard, the most sacred shrine of the Aesir of which the Prose Edda relates that “men call it Troy,” Arkaim may have been a shrine dedicated to the Aryan Sun religion, yet the roots of its dedication would have lain ultimately in the far older cult of the Pole star. Essentially, this was the religion of the shaman, the wizard, the medicine-man and other wonder-workers in touch with the spirits of nature.

Thus the swastika, thought to be the exclusively Aryan symbol of sun-worship misappropriated by the Nazis,7 and found depicted on many of the clay pots unearthed in Arkaim, is an older religious and metaphysical symbol than that attached to the Aryan Sun God, its roots lying in totemic shamanism. René Guénon, the eminent French esotericist, points out that the swastika, symbolising eternal motion around a motionless centre, is a polar rather than a solar symbol, and as such was a symbol central to the Pole star cult, originally dedicated to a planetary deity connected to Ursa Major, the Great Bear. This centre, Guénon stresses, “constitutes the fixed point known symbolically to all traditions as the ‘pole’ or axis around which the world rotates…” The swastika is therefore known world-wide as the ‘sign of the pole.

The world, many researchers, many organizations, the very nature of evil that all the leaders share along with memberships in these dark saturn worship mystery schools, all point to your opinion being in a minority about masons.

And on that one, no need to even find a link. They're everywhere, look yourself.

So you saying that it does not exist you want to say that to millions of people on forums and real life. Who had physical contact and sighting also crafts and abilities. You want to say that to millions Scribe. I guess not so you say they do not exist or not real.

You twist and mistaken my words, Shadow. A common attack from one who cannot defend their views. Instead of answering the questions your quote-mine, and cherry-pick things I've said to demonize my account.

Then Why are you here Scribe on an ET experiences and craft sighting forum???

Because I believe in the existence of extra-terrestrial biological entities.

What I don't believe in are your specific extra-terrestrial biological entity encounters. Or that you are an extra-terrestrial biological entity from another dimension/planet yourself.

I've never said that there is no alien life in our Universe. I've never even said that it is unlikely that there is no alien life in our Universe. I've only said that your depiction of alien life in our Universe is wrong; and I've said that because you have made a few glaring historical and spiritual inaccuracies in your claims.

I think I have a hint now as to why.

Fair enough. The table is yours for the moment. Tell me all about myself, Shadow. O'Messiah, use your telepathy skills and your remote-viewing capabilities to tell me all about myself.

You have not experienced that much

Strike one.

so you are here to torment those that have

Strike two.

Pushing people here to start doing things.

I'll call this one a ball. I'm not here to "push" it. I'm here to ask it of the people who claim they can do it on a regular basis. There's a difference. My hand is not forcing you, it is asking you to do so because you talk about these abilities as second-nature to you.

2 strikes, one ball. Let's see how you do with the next pitch.

What will you say to those who survived the comet and placed into Fema camps??

First I'd say "where's the comet at?" I don't see any comet, and if you can see it, NASA can too. NASA hasn't said anything about a comet. So maybe you're just seeing Jupiter sitting out there in the evening sky.

What will you say to the kids that will be tormented and killed??

You mean like in Darfur, Africa? Where they're being tormented and killed right now, as we speak? Or in the Civil War ravaging India, where children are also being killed now, as we speak?

I'd say the same thing I always say: this is why it's bad for a people to blindly follow the ideals and faiths of those who do not prove their claims first.

Like you, Shadow.

You want that kind of future??

Strike three. Yer' out!

It's not a "future", Shadow. Children are suffering now. Men and women are dying now. People are killing people, right now. There's no comet coming to separate those who follow the Beast from those who follow the Lamb.

There is only right now, this moment, and it is forever. We need to fix now, not prophecy doom for later. Doom and gloom are upon us already.

Take your eyes off the skies for a minute and maybe you'll see the real condition of the world we live in. Take your head out of the clouds for a minute, and maybe you'll understand your fellow man a little bit better.

I hope you do not want this for Earth.

Want what? Pain, suffering, unhappiness and destruction? How can I "not want" something that I've already received? It's already happening, Shadow. You are just blind to true suffering. Content in your belief that no one's really suffered until your scientifically-impossible-comet crashes into us.

We need to awaken and help each other. Do you want my help or not? Many others can help you awaken and give you tips. We are meant to help each other.

Yes, Shadow. Wake me up. You know how to wake me up? Show me that your extra-terrestrial biological entities are real. Show me that your psychic powers are real. Show me that the technologies these extra-terrestrial biological entities have put in your hands are real. Most of all though, show me that your love can heal us. Show me cancer thrown into remission by your love. Show me a bullet stopped mid-flight by your love. Show me a starving child made full and whole again by love alone.

Wake me up, Shadow, wake me up with evidence of your glory.

~ Scribe

Anyone who knows anything heh? Really! You think they're all that. The swaztika is an older symbol linked to solar or sun worship and polar shifts.

Please learn to thoroughly read that which I write, Unity. I said:

The Svastika/Swastika is a symbol representing the consistency of the sun and moon in their orbits around the Earth.

Which means it IS a pole-star related symbol. Tracing the sun and moon's rotation around the Earth. The Maypole. The "axis mundi", the bindle. I'm not stupid and I know my religious and metaphysical symbolism.

We've both finally agreed on something!

The world, many researchers, many organizations, the very nature of evil that all the leaders share along with memberships in these dark saturn worship mystery schools, all point to your opinion being in a minority about masons.

Oh wait, no we don't.

From Conspiracy Theories and Secret Socieites by Christoher Hodapp (best-selling author of Freemasons) and Alice Von Kannon (historian):

The Freemasons are arguably the world's best-known and least-hidden secret society, and they've been portrayed as an object of ridicule as well as a dark and sinister force since the 1700s. The modern fraternity of Freemasonry began in Scotland and England throughout the last half of the 1600s, but it's legendary origins go back to the stonemason guilds of the tenth century in the English town of York. And it's mythical beginnings are said to date to 1,000 BC with the building of King Solomon's temple at Jerusalem.

Boiled down to it's simplest philosophy, the modern day Freemasons are based on the cathedral builders of the Middle Ages, and they use the terminology of the stonemasons to teach their members allegorical lessons about morality, charity and honor. Instead of building cathedrals out of stone, the Masons say they are building cathedrals in the hearts of their members.

Very briefly, Freemasonry is a great big club, primarily for men, that uses symbolism and ritual to initiate its members and to teach them allegorical, moral lessons. The stated goal of the fraternity is to take good men, and improve them morally, spiritually, and emotionally, by encouraging them to cultivate brotherly love, charity, honesty and integrity. Masons believe they can improve society by making men better husbands, fathers, sons, and citizens.

Freemason lodges can be found in nearly every country on Earth. Certainly there existence is no secret. In the United States Masonic lodges are listed in the phone book, and their activities are frequently covered by local newspapers. Masons wear rings, hats, and belt buckles sporting the organization's well-recognized symbol: the square and compasses, usually with the letter "G" appearing in the middle (which stands for the combination of Geometry and God, referred to as the Great Architect of the Universe). They have websites, and blog sites, and have recently started advertising for new members on television.

Worship of Saturn? Nope. Evil? If morality, chivalry, spirituality and being a better husband is evil, sure. It's not though. So nope. "Historians" say they are evil? That was one historian right there, who has written two books on the Masons, and she said nope. So nope.

Instead of believing every two-bit whack-job with an internet connection, why not read some history lessons?

* Edit = putting the book's words in a quote box = Edit *

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reply to post by ShadowNinja

The struggle the deaths of some around you. The general sight of not understanding how it is possible. But yet you shut your self off fully. The expirinces you had visits and yet you did not fully take it in.

Way to be vague!

I'm 21 years old. Anyone who is 21 years old has lost a family member to old age. Or a traffic accident. Or a life-threatening disease.

Struggle? You mean like the struggle that every human born faces when they reach certain ages? Like becoming an adult, starting a new school, first years in college, getting their first apartment, moving out from their family? Those kinds of struggles?

What am I not understanding the possibility of? Time to turn off the "vague glasses" and put on the "specific glasses" and tell me what I do not understand.

I only shut out the experiences that I've determined are bunk. And I determine that by waiting for the evidence of them. The only "bunk" I've had lately is your "special" powers claims and "advanced" technology claims.

Please tell me what has visited me that I have not fully taken in. After telling me what the visit was, tell me what part of the visit I did not fully take in.

Way to be vague!

Too much to tell too little time

Translation:I ran out of vague things to say

Im off to meditating and that is what you should do as well.

Translation:Run! Before he responds to my vagueness!

I meditate three times a day, mate. Every day.

Anyone can find the information. Just simply look for a giant white room with files and people going through files and charts and plans.

The Great Hall of Akashik records, Shadow? Getting into Hindu theology now too? I'd be surprised if you didn't tell me that Astral Projection is how you reach the Records. Because it's not the way. It's only here, in America, where we don't bother reading the original texts of the works which we translate that people believe the Akashik records are reachable during life. They're not though, you have to die, and on your way through the Bardos you visit the Akashik Records.

Way to try and fake knowledge of something.

reply to post by Wandering Scribe


Now, i don't want to turn this into a full on discussion of the Akashic Records, but i think you should open your mind to options.

I mean, you really think you can only visit them when you're in the Bardos? You sound pretty convinced that the only way you can reach this unproven place of existance is if you die. You sure about that?

I've never been (and you'll say thats because i'm not dead) but i'm sure you don't actually have to die to go there. Well, obviously you can't take my word for it, but if this place really does exist, then i'm sure the only people that have been there aren't dead.

Oh, and also, just out of interest, how long do your meditations last?

Thanks.

reply to post by OrionTri


well you can visit it if you can access 4d and higher and even 3d beings can too. I just do not understand why he brings in religion into it. This was all ET made they decided to compile knowledge into holographic pads. For us to study things and understand better of what is happening also what has happened. I mean death who in gods name came up with that seriously. The living can visit the records hall as well. Just learn a little bit about projection and you are there. So no you don't have to be dead.

I am surprised Orion hmmm how long exactly have you been feeling and experiencing things around 4 years or 4 years + ???

Simply that you have some general knowledge about ET things. Maybe it is time for a discussion off ATS.

If it is ok with you??

Anyway have fun and chat soon.


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reply to post by Wandering Scribe


I mean the whole thing is just hilarious and way out of the park. The comet will come but yet many do not pay attention to the signs.

Also when you say you have to be dead to visit the hall of records. Am I dead??

Scribe you remind me of this guy I called on this site One,14 or was it Tim. But in general the vibe of a Black Op is there hmm but is it an ex-Black Op. What you need Scribe is a giant hug and a pat on the back.

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reply to post by ShadowNinja


I'll look into this "white room" of yours in my next meditation, and see what expands from there.

Well, i've been feeling and experiencing things since birth, if that's what you were asking. I walked on my first birthday, my first word was door and my first girlfriend was when i was four. These are all experiences if you are interested.

But on a serious note, not long. If feeling and experiencing things refers to how long i've lived my life by a more "spiritual philosophy" then about a year, maybe a bit longer. I'm new to all this, but that does not mean my words are not as credited as others, such as Scribes, who seems to know alot about everything; my aim is to learn as much as i can, someday reach and further that level of knowledge Scribe has. Or just become a very fast googler, for all those times that i am not familiar with something.

Now, i don't want to turn this into a full on discussion of the Akashic Records, but i think you should open your mind to options.

I'm open to the options. I never completely close my mind to any experience or information until after it has been proven fraudulent, or a hoax.

I mean, you really think you can only visit them when you're in the Bardos? You sound pretty convinced that the only way you can reach this unproven place of existance is if you die. You sure about that?

The Akashik records are a memory of all of the lives lived by any sentient being in the Universe. On your way through the Bardos to be reborn again you visit the records to learn of the life you just lived and those you've lived before. At the end of the Bardos sits the spectre of Death who counts out your Karma with white and black stones. Based on the Karma of your current and past lives (housed in the records) your new life is determined.

This is all Hindu and Buddhist theology though. So there's a certain amount of faith that one needs to take when delving into theological concepts. The records though, are of Hindu origin since the Doctrine of Reincarnation ties directly into them.

Maybe you can visit the records if you're skirting the edge of death, but, why would someone who is still living be allowed to study their current and past lives Karmic values? It goes against the purpose of the records if you're allowed to see the charge of your life before you've lived it.

I've never been (and you'll say thats because i'm not dead) but i'm sure you don't actually have to die to go there. Well, obviously you can't take my word for it, but if this place really does exist, then i'm sure the only people that have been there aren't dead.

All religious philosophy comes from figures who have transcended death and returned to teach of their learnings. Odin, Jesus, the Buddha. All great religious figures, like those who brought us knowledge of the Akashik records, have gone to the Afterlife, whether dead or not, and come back changed. They then teach us of what they have seen.

So why do people "go there" all the time? Because it gives them more believability to base their claims in a concept grounded in a world faith. No one talks about sitting before Ma'at in the Duat, or crossing the Bridge of Truth, or descending to Hades and skirting the gorge of Tartarus anymore.

You know why?

Because Egyptian, Persian and Greek religions are no longer the mainstream religions. Now that Hinduism, Buddhism, Christianity, Judaism and religious cults are the mainstream faiths, all that you ever hear about are concepts from these religions.

Oh, and also, just out of interest, how long do your meditations last?

My standard is an hour. I never do less than an hour. But, if the right state is reached then my periods can extend for several hours. During which time no one sees much of me, ha ha. Usually though I will spend an hour working through Asana, Pranayama and the Chakras if I so desire in my endless attempt to reach Dhyana.

You're welcome mate.

~ Scribe

wow. u are crazy. seriously? u need help.

reply to post by theweapon


Thank you for the comment already checked that theory hahaha. Well experiencing the same thing with other people was enough to prove your comment wrong. Still thank you for the comment and welcome to the thread.

reply to post by ShadowNinja

I mean the whole thing is just hilarious and way out of the park. The comet will come but yet many do not pay attention to the signs.

A comet does not have "signs", Shadow. This is not Wormwood we're talking about. A comet is a giant chunk of space-rock combined with ice that is hurtling around our solar system, and possibly galaxy, on an extremely long orbit, usually shaped like an oval. They typically fly into our system from the asteroid belt, or beyond, and burn up in the sun / another sphere's atmosphere, or they complete their rotation and recycle their orbit to pass us again in another X amount of years. Like Haley's Comet.

Also when you say you have to be dead to visit the hall of records. Am I dead??

You're absolutely right, Shadow. You're not dead. And that is exactly why you haven't visited the records. If you had, you'd be able to look me up in there and learn all about me. Your countless failures to provide even one scrap of my life is all the proof necessary to demonstrate you've never been to the record hall.

I just do not understand why he brings in religion into it.

Seriously, Shadow? Do you want to know why I bring religion into it? Here's why:

• Psychic powers - Greek paganism, specifically the Greek Gods. Also, all pagan cults and religions taught that sorcerers were capable of such feats. Not alien. Religious.

• Hall of Records - Hinduism, Doctrine of Reincarnation. The Hindu philosophers thought of this thousands of years ago. Not alien. Religious.

• Visions - Shamanism and every other type of religious sorcery. Greek seers, sybils and prophets could see "visions" of the future. Cassandra to name one.

• Ancient advanced technology - the Greeks again. Hephaestus built robot servants, and designed machines with gears and cogs to control them. Not alien. Religious.

That's why. All of your "precious" alien stories are just a pathetic rehashing of ancient religious stories. However, because you're not quite intelligent enough to know about religions, you believe that David Icke, or whoever else you've lifted your fantasies from, has told you some kind of gospel truth unknown to mankind before now.

reply to post by ShadowNinja

Well experiencing the same thing with other people was enough to prove your comment wrong.

• A couple million African's believe that AIDS is not a sexually transmitted disease.

• Millions of people believe the Priory of Scion existed. But it doesn't

• Millions of American's believe the Old West was littered with gunfights where bandits were killed all the time. The deadliest Old West towns has an average of 5 deaths a year. Total. Many relating to natural causes or accidents. Not gun-duels.

Just three cases of "other people believe/experience it, so it must be true!" that are downright wrong. Nice try Shadow. But maybe you are in need of some counseling to differentiate between reality and fantasy.

Hahaha yeh the funny thing what stories from the person I do not even know him. Wow you are way of the track matey and I find it funny. I was present when the human DNA was altered and changed to make you guys more advanced. But instead it went into wars and humans going all greedy dark and power hungry. I mean you will never pass the test if you people do not realize properly to start loving and respecting nature and things around you. You shoot each other over couple dollars a peace of paper with ink on it.

Do you know why humanity was altered and helped by the alien races???

To help you guys grow and prosper dam it. You would have became the most amazing thing in the Universe. We gave you hope,love and knowledge to help you onto the path of greatness. But you scraped it all and just shredded it all by turning dark power hungry.


Do you know why we still watch you over and wanting to help???

Because we still see the light and the spark inside each and every one of you. You give us hope for you that we should not regret helping you. We see you live your life's for some pathetic jobs and money. Tearing families apart,killing and starting wars killing each other. You must realize you are all killing each others family in wars. Brothers kill brothers, sisters kill sisters and yet you do not realize that this will effect you leaving this vibrational dimensional plane and advancing on.

Scribe realize this Karma is real but it is not us who make humanity suffer it is you. Humanity creates this and gives it life and birth to exist for the suffering they receive is their own. You must all stand up and say no to this to make this all stop. We see you do this to your self and we want this to stop but we are not allowed to interfere. Unless a huge number of you will want us to step in and help you. To teach you the Universal learning and everything that is known to all the races not on Earth. It is the peoples choice to do this and we just hope it will not be too late. For you all to realize that you want us to help.

reply to post by Wandering Scribe


Do you realize I already experienced things with many people at least like 50 as far as I know. I even get random people I meet telling me things and that they know me.

So this is not a fantasy and if so then why l are you here Scribe. That means you are in fantasy world as well. First think before discrediting people and doing things to them because you are working for the other side.

reply to post by ShadowNinja

I was present when the human DNA was altered and changed to make you guys more advanced.

Our DNA was never "altered", Shadow. Evolution changed our DNA through natural processes. Which is why we still share so much of our DNA with other mammals and animal-life present on our planet.

Also, you're an alien? Then come and visit me to prove the existence of your alien lineage. Instead of standing these saying you're not allowed to, come and visit me. You just admitted to the entire world that you are an alien, so now it doesn't matter what you say. You either come and visit me, or you're a liar.

As for the rest of your post: David Icke is a liar.

reply to post by ShadowNinja


You know full well why religion is brought in, its control and annanuki. Just learn not to react when you're being trolled. Freedom and waking up, takes persistence and believe in yourself. Always search in your heart.

Love & Light!

reply to post by Wandering Scribe


Keep spreading your ideas, but this is his thread about his experiences and he's not on the same mindset as you or your agenda. He believes in himself and is free. Not only that but he is going to follow the path he came to do. So will I and you have to make your own choice. But its not right to keep stating your mindset over and over. Not tuned into that station.