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Originally posted by DaisyAnne
reply to post by IgnoranceIsntBlisss
Sure, I understand that, but eventually it will even out. Think about home computers. Or microwave ovens. It's not an easy transition, but it does eventually even out.
If we, as a species, can improve the quality of our lives, surely that isn't selfish? Things aren't exactly peachy at the moment, and I would love to see some progress.
Originally posted by SpaceMonkeys
Great...lets not evolve our species in fear that we might be heading ourselves into a NWO
Dont people see that the elites are trying to slow down our advancement in every way possible?
Look at the economy, designed to enslave us with self generating debt, witholding technology so it can be kept for themselves and keeping outdated fuel such as oil because its easily taxable, breaking up society so we're divided and ruled, taking away our abilities to even bring up our children the way we should to keep them from turning into menaces, starting wars for their own personal gain, forcing mindless entertainment down our throats so we dont do too much thinking. If there was a revolution and the people rose up against the elites then what do we do after that? We cant stay living in the same system because that system was designed by the elites to enslave us, its a corrupt system, so the way civilisation would function would have to be drastically changed for the better.
Originally posted by DaisyAnne
One could argue that society is already dominated by chat rooms and TV dinners. Neither of which are anywhere near as beneficial to us as a species as Transhumanism will be.
Originally posted by dalan.
If Jacque Fresco or anyone in the movement program their computers to force an RFID chip, H1N1 vaccine, or fluoridated water into me...then I will believe that it is NWO propaganda.
Originally posted by Aliensun
reply to post by IgnoranceIsntBlisss
Think of it as the extreme that most people would reject out of hand. Think of it as a NWO disinformation ploy that wants to show folks that the standard variety of NWO is not so bad after all as compared to what it could be in other hands. Those fledglings that flocked to it eventually get disallusioned or overwhelmed with the proposed changes and fall back to some lesser lever of the same thing.
Don't think that gimmick will work? Obama got elected. The next person of "change" will be less radical about and the flocking will be even stronger.
Originally posted by IgnoranceIsntBlisss
Can anyone answer for me the views of the heads of the ZM in regards to guns and private property? I tried finding this info awhile back, in particular I looked for their quotes on private property, but had no luck.
It should be rather obvious really. Maybe in the first few years youcan keep what you have, but eventually with ai computers rationing everything and prescribing equality you'll all end up in the same spot. Better hope its a good one. Judging by the closest example of the system we have to compare it to historically, it should be an easy guess where you'd all be after a couple generations.
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whats the problem in replacing humans with robots if we didnt need to work ... we could use our time to do creative things, whatever
Originally posted by Jussi
This has got to be the most far off topic ever..
..will not say any more..
There can be 2 differences, in pushing for any agenda.
1. other does it without telling the truth about what the F*ck is going on
2. other does it so, that all aspects of what is going on is shared..
..now which does the NWO fall into, and which does the Zeitgeist movement fall into?
You can look for any similarities, in ants and humans if you wish, (both have legs, and a head) and try to convince anyone that ant is a man, but that does not change the fundamental basics, by which they operate.
You can also find similarities in fighting and lovemaking, but there is allways that fundamental difference in the intention behind both..
Case closed.
Originally posted by IgnoranceIsntBlisss
Let me ask again: How can it be transistioned in without tyranny?
This is the the 'resource economy' question (I would have said million dollar but um ya). I say tyranny would be needed to maintain it, but if it could be answered how to even implement it without tyranny or other undue human suffering we might have somewhere to go.
[edit on 28-11-2009 by IgnoranceIsntBlisss]
Originally posted by TrueTruth
whats the problem in replacing humans with robots if we didnt need to work ... we could use our time to do creative things, whatever
aside from the fact it's impossible?
machines can't do my job, or my wife's job (me - acupuncture. her - behavioral therapist for autistic children)
the problem of differential reward for things like, advanced degrees, and actually doing something so others can do nothing, will not go away.
personally, if you decided to just be a sponge, i'd say you have no right to access any service by any person who actually does something useful
Originally posted by IgnoranceIsntBlisss
Let me ask again: How can it be transistioned in without tyranny?
This is the the 'resource economy' question (I would have said million dollar but um ya). I say tyranny would be needed to maintain it, but if it could be answered how to even implement it without tyranny or other undue human suffering we might have somewhere to go.
[edit on 28-11-2009 by IgnoranceIsntBlisss]