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Originally posted by ElectricUniverse
Originally posted by nik1halo
You are right that the National Health Service here in the UK isn't working, but it is not the system that has caused this, but the beaurocracy of the government that is to blame. There are now twice as many beaurocrats and pen pushers in the NHS than there are beds in the hospitals, nurses on the wards or doctors in the country. THIS is the problem. The government keeps throwing money at the NHS, but it doesn't go to the patients, but to the managers etc.
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ooohhhh...riiiight... it is not that the NHS in itself doesn't really work...let's blame it on politicians instead...that must be why most NHS are bankrupt, and are not working....
But hey, having a healthcare that doesn't work, and at the end causes bankruptcy is supposed to be "civilized" now-a-days.....
Originally posted by Izarith
reply to post by nik1halo
You my friend are completely under the illusion that you will never fall on hard times and will always be able to afford that good old health insurance or have that job that gives it to you. I wish you all the luck with that because the day you do fall on hard times, which is very probable during our stressing economic calamity, and you get slapped with that 2.5% tax on your yearly earnings......it's going to hurt like a son of a gun.
Wise men no not what it's like to be thick as a brick, luckily for you life has an interesting way of keeping us all humble.
TA!!
Izzy.
Originally posted by defcon5
What the hell, you don’t get jail time if you don’t have car insurance!?! You only lose your license and tags. You only go to jail if you drive without insurance or on a suspended license, and even that varies from state to state.
Maybe they should make it a crime for companies to refuse to provide health insurance for their employees. Ah, but our government only ever looks out for the corporations anyway. After all, if our representatives put all the big business owners in jail, who would they have to go golfing with?
Originally posted by Izarith
reply to post by nik1halo
Oh I thought you were in America sorry.
I meant over here if you fall on hard times and loose your health insurance or a bit you forced to pay a tax.
Honestly the system in the UK is much better than this bill that might pass. Socialism is socialism it sucks but it's better than "corporate communism" that really, really sucks.
It's like paying for your own slave chains.
Originally posted by j2000
Originally posted by Izarith
reply to post by nik1halo
Oh I thought you were in America sorry.
I meant over here if you fall on hard times and loose your health insurance or a bit you forced to pay a tax.
Honestly the system in the UK is much better than this bill that might pass. Socialism is socialism it sucks but it's better than "corporate communism" that really, really sucks.
It's like paying for your own slave chains.
First off, if you like it there, I am sure we can make arrangements for you to go and not come back.
Second, why don't you wake up to the fact that you are just transferring the power swing from Corporations to the Govt. The Corporations got their power from the Corrupt Govt to begin with. They did not regulate them like they are suppose to do. In fact Corporations were not to exist at all to begin with. You can thank that Assh@le Rockerfeller for that one.
Taking back the power through the states is the only thing to do. If you want tax payer paid healthcare, their are already a couple of states that have it, MOVE TO ONE OF THEM!
“What I think is appropriate is that in the same way that everybody has to get auto insurance and if you don't, you're subject to some penalty, that in this situation,if you have the ability to buy insurance, it's affordable and you choose not to do so, to buy insurance, if you have the ability to buy insurance, it's affordable and you choose not to do so,,
forcing you and me and everybody else to subsidize you, you know, there's a thousand dollar hidden tax that families all across America are -- are burdened by because of the fact that people don't have health insurance, you know, there's nothing wrong with a penalty.”