.... and so the old gods stir

Basically everyone.. what I am thinking.. ok again this is MY CURRENT personal thought. All these gods came in times of turmoil with the exception of the Sumerians (IMO the first time AFTER they "created" them)
All these old gods came in times of opression and turmoil. It is my opinion thus far that, considering the opressive nature of the so-called illuminati, and the so-called Blakc/secret governments of the world, that we again are in a time of need, and they are either here, observing for a plan of action, and all that, or on their way.

Originally posted by stanlee
All these gods came in times of turmoil with the exception of the Sumerians (IMO the first time AFTER they "created" them)

And the Egyptians, and I'm sure there are more. Not all arose during chaotic times. Nun, the demiurge arose from the primordial waters and from here the family tree of the God's begins, with Atum (i may be mistaken) coming first, forming out of his own thoughts.

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i love the post and reading great but why did you leave out the so called christian god,bible states -that when the children of the world see the unleashing of the light and hells fire that will destroy the world that we were to lift up our heads and hearts and sing unto the high our praise and that he would answer our call.
as to the fey you are correct that only the worthy are allowed into their realm but this can only be achieved in the dream time -been there and done it right into the kings chamber.
but what would happen if he was already here as a man amongst men ,he said that we would not know him if he was standing next to us until it was time .
what would he be doing watching listening learning -WHY-.
was he sent here to spy or is he here to help us all as a species ?
we screamed bloody blue murder with these songs,
one tin soldier
help
war pigs
Armageddon

our praise was

in times of trouble mother Mary come to us and whisper words of wisdom
LET IT BE LET IT BE LET IT BE.

i wonder is he here or is 2012 the year he shows himself to the world or is this the year that we find out that we are not alone in the creation .
oh how i would love to see this happen .
everything that we were told to believe in becomes a lie and so does our churches millitaries ,governments and the banks .

HALLILOYA-

As a bit of criticism, at first glance, your use of Jupiter is a bit weak. I say this becuase the Romans didn't pronounce it as JU-piter they said it YOVe-pater or simply Jove (j is a y sound).

Still though, pretty interesting stuff man. I need to read up more on Celtic myth; I'm working my through some scandinavian myths right now actually.

s+f

Well, since you are looking for Gods. Let me offer a prophecy from the Jewish one. And this could explain why the gods left.

The prophecy is the book of Hosea. The story of the day of Jezreel. But I can summerize the main point of the prophecy with a couple of verses.

Hosea 5.

14 For I will be unto Ephraim as a lion, and as a young lion to the house of Judah: I, even I, will tear and go away; I will take away, and none shall rescue him.

Hosea 6.
1 Come, and let us return unto the LORD: for he hath torn, and he will heal us; he hath smitten, and he will bind us up.
2 After two days will he revive us: in the third day he will raise us up, and we shall live in his sight.
3 Then shall we know, if we follow on to know the LORD: his going forth is prepared as the morning; and he shall come unto us as the rain, as the latter and former rain unto the earth.

To decipher the codes here first off the point of 5-14 is that it is a declaration of a top level Leviticus 26 curse on the Jews and Israelites.

The point of 6-2 is the timeframe of the curse and the approximate date of the day of Jezreel. And the thing to know here? Those days are in the presence of God. Those days are thousand year periods of time.

The curse is 2000 years long. Followed by a thousand year day of Jezreel.

Combined with the prophecy of the "generation that shall not pass until all these things are complete" of Matthew 24 and you get an approximate date for the day of Jezreel.

No later than May of 2028. but could be up to 10 years earlier. 2018.

Just a thought for your thread.

And someday I may have to tell the story on how I was "shiny" for a while.

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well regardless of pronunciation, be it yu (pronounced yoo) or Ju. still sounds the same. lol. that and as stated its STILL A WORK IN PROGRESS. lol

Picrat, and Ntech. I did not mention jesus, allah, or emanuel for one basic and well known reason.
We all know the old testement is taken from the torah and talmud, and the quran is also based off hebrew teachings as well. THe book of genisis.. is an extremely and literally condensed version of the epic of creation from the sumerians. It came out when the hebrew people were being held captive by the babylonians. tthat and I myself, do not believe in either mohammed, or jesus. I dont believe either one was real. but Im not going to mar your religions beliefs either. I never said any of this was fact, even now as I read further I come across mistakes in my original paper. this is merely an idea, and I am merely trying to find a connection between the old religions that were based off historical happenings. that is all. this is not a message to say your god is not real, tnis is not an attempt to convert, or even suggest you are wrong in anyway. THose are your beliefs, that is fine. again I AM NOT ATTACKING ANY religion in this. with that stated.. cheers.

and on top of that, none of this (if its true) would prove the talmudic, traditions to be phoney. nor biblical, nor mohammedic. It would if anything accent them, and possibly prove them true, but in a different light altogether. THe case maybe, as the hebrew system of letters, is considered to be a sacred alphabet, as is the greek and the hindi that the authors of this were trying to convey a serious message anyway. the truncation of teh Epic of Creation, to make the book of genisis, could in fact have been done thusly intentionally. Maybe that is why the christians and the muslims took that book which is an offshoot of the sumerian texts.

Maybe there is just a little bit more to the stories than we see because we dont read between their lines.. I.... dont.. know..


but I intend to find out. and no.. even if it turns out all these gods, and jesus were related and DID IN SCIENTIFIC AND HISTORICAL FACT walk the earth that still does not mean I will become a jew convert, a christian, or a muslim. (By scientific and historical fact, I mean studied and proven OUTSIDE the religions scientists who are biased)

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Originally posted by stanlee
Picrat, and Ntech. I did not mention jesus, allah, or emanuel for one basic and well known reason.
We all know the old testement is taken from the torah and talmud, and the quran is also based off hebrew teachings as well. THe book of genisis.. is an extremely and literally condensed version of the epic of creation from the sumerians. It came out when the hebrew people were being held captive by the babylonians.

I was merely pointing out here with this prophecies from the Bible you have the reason why the world seems to have been god free since the first century AD.

A top level Levitius 26 curse on the descendents of Israel and by extension the world. See Genesis 48 and 49 for that.

it looks like it will be a very interesting 19 years ahead of us. But i'll tell you one secret. Of you had seen the version of the bible I did.

The supernatural study guide is quite interesting.

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Yeah, I was just trying to be constructive dude.


Yove is different from juve. But the etymology may be connected, I'm positive the etymology of Jove is connected to Jehova

The leader of the visitors from the new series "V" is named Anna. I don't know about you, but that name is strikingly similar to Anu, Nu, and Danu.

It seems to me that perhaps the OP is correct in that a "2nd coming" might be around the corner. Jordan Maxwell even hinted in his Project Camelot interview of the return of Anu.

seemingly this is going somewhere else. I quite possibly read something wrong. the response wasnt supposed to sound sso dick-ish. probabl the time .apologies. - oh. lol I dont think we're godless esp with the Tuatha de Danan stories and the druids , and the followers of Oding as well lol

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OOOOH THATSA where you were going lol no, to answer your question, no. i had not considered this but again, with the three mainstream and modern religions being so connected to the sumerians, and the way some people get up in arms about saviours and salvation i dont look at those ones so as to avoid people thinking i am trying to disprove the mainstream religions. i dont buy into them and i just dont want people think i am attacking them either. thats all. i do apologise as it is late and i read those last three posts as something else entirely. sorry guys and gals.

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well i only knew of three bible books out there. king james versiion, book of mormon and pearls of wisdom. yes i know the latter two are not considered biblical scripture by many. and no. im not, nor have i been a mormon lol. i just didnt know there were all these other versions of the bible. i guess that would make sense with the current one being called kj version that there may be other versions out there too. find the correlation. see what you come up with
But im looking at this 2012 thing, and the past then. I did find something amazing in it all. The more I read on the Anunnaki alone, the less I see how the people of today came up with lizard people. I am reading further into this because I am curious to see these lizard people beyond that of the guardians. who knows? maybe we will all turn green and grow scales on that 21st day of dec. or maybe the whole thing is a hoax as well. I would just like to get all this complete and present a complete and more accurate work than what I posted now. I think the greatest thing about doing work like this.. the rough draft presenting idea.. etc.. and then continuing research is that I am finding were my ideas were flawed by both researching more heavily and by people who know more about certain elder dogmas than I do currently. then you can ask yourself. wow how did I come up with THAT? lol

Originally posted by stanlee
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But im looking at this 2012 thing, and the past then. I did find something amazing in it all. The more I read on the Anunnaki alone, the less I see how the people of today came up with lizard people.

2012 has no association with Sumerian literature.

Originally posted by Mr Headshot
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Yeah, I was just trying to be constructive dude.


Yove is different from juve. But the etymology may be connected, I'm positive the etymology of Jove is connected to Jehova

They most probably are connected etymologically. But Jupiter itself though, is composed of dyeus, which is the Greek Zeus and pater which is father.

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Originally posted by Davidius
The leader of the visitors from the new series "V" is named Anna. I don't know about you, but that name is strikingly similar to Anu, Nu, and Danu.

Umm... maybe because the scriptwriter/director/producer/creator is familiar with Mesopotamian mythology?

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PIXIE. I can finally respond properly. THese ancient writings you speak of are what I am trying to find myself as well. the problem we face though, and on the same token the benefit we have, are both one.. the vast periods of time and certain religious fanatacism back in the day that went so far as to destroy all or most of the literature pertaining to these ancient travelling philanthropists. Not only do I want to either prove, or show a great deal that the POSSIBILITY that these things are true, and real, I want to also show how the various ancient people as well are relative. Right now in this version the humans are just passersby. thats it. I will not call them good or evil. I dont know what evolutionary stage they are in exactly starting with the Sumerians. (I start there because they seem to be the earliest, and secondly the 'visitors' seem to have been there twice, once to create and the second time to teach.. Im not 100% on this yet. I just need to find a concurrent statement. THat very theory could be the work of a quack. Im not sure yet) This whole thing focuses on the gods of old for right now. I want to see if they are infact relative to one another.

As for the various crimes you mentioned in relation to humanity today. I think there may be another explanation.

What is the one thing that NO living thing can live without?
ALso those that can manage without often have severe dyscfunctions.

the answer is space.

No living thing can properly live without enough space without severe dysfunction. Trees get all sorts of root problems and cankers, diseases, etc. Animals eat one another alive. (without the need to actually feed)
People.. do all the things you mentioned. I believe we are seriously over populated on a global scale. we can point fingers and say its the fault of every government on the planet but the bottom line is we need far stricter laws for these heinous crimes. We seriously need to cut back the amount of space we are taking as most of it isnt even our own. and also in my opinion, if we do away with a great majority of people out there, we would see how quickly crime drops. not necesserily kill them, but say colonise another planet even. something to give more room to othe rliving things on this planet. as it stands we are cramped and going mad. (those of us with ethics that is lol) thats my theory on that. Im not a psychologist mind you.. Im a chemist. (horticulture and arboriculture.)

thank you for your lovely insite miss.
\cheers
Stan

2012 has no association with Sumerian literature.

the funny thing is.... I thought I was the only one that thought that.. lol. thats a Mayan thing. well.. atleast I havent come across anything yet indicative of a sumerian 2012 equivalent

Originally posted by stanlee
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Very nice indeed. THere is one flaw though. lol Im not focusing on the male main gods.. just the main gods. Danu was female. SHe was teh all mother.. so to speak. lol. However.. you seem to know your stuff as well.. If you like.. U2U me, perhaps a second mind in this madness would be helpful. When all is said and done, Im not really going to be focusing on the main gods either. I want to bring them all in (as many as I can) and show the relative similarities that could link them even closer together in our history. and from there my goal is to possibly link them to all the sightings we are having today. I am also waiting for sightings that are presented by people that are not complete crack pots. My goal however though is to be thorough. if this turns into a book.. wonderful. if it turns into a dissertation for Erik vonDeniken.. even cooler. lol.

Stan

Ok. I didn't noticed that main gods are not always mail gods. I just want to appreciate your work. While you focus on main gods I just discovered that second main gods after gods you mentioned is always almost the same women shape goddess in all cultures. I could say that this person is just much more fascinating to me but together our knowledge is more complete. It would be useful if this topic become would become a database of ancient gods similarities. It's the only tool to deduce something about ancient civilization on earth before that civilizations which we known already.

And so the old gods stir and stir and stir and so the old gods go and stir.

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well man, like I said. U2U me. Im sure there are many other things I am not y et considering. which is why I love ats