Has Baxter International Released a New Biological Weapon in the Ukraine?

reply to post by MajorDisaster


seriously... i came back from Lviv (western Ukraine) last Tuesday after visting some freinds and I passed some guy in the airport who was 'blue'... i looked at the guy and thought ' dude looks dreadful, looks like Yushenko looked when he'd been poisoned' and then thought nothing of it... reading this now, i'm begining to be a little concerned

Seriously freaky.

So what have we got?

Baxter files for swine flu patent August 2008.

In November 2008 they are forced admit to delivering live bird flu as vaccine.

Regardless of this, they where given the swine flu virus in June 2009 to develop the vaccine!! INSANE!
They are under investigation but are charged with this leading role?

Apparently Baxter has a facility not but 50 miles from the ground zero point in Mexico.

By the end of July 80 million doses ready to ship!! so quick? it's like they foresaw it coming or something.

I also heard they made quite large profit projections in 2008? anyone confirm.

And now this little gem. What the hell is going on?

I also have trouble conceiving of intentional mass murder, but consider this, if that bird flu contamination wasn't picked up then perhaps it would have been exactly that.

Also have to mention the intentional infection of AIDS to hemophiliac sufferers. INTENTIONAL!!

Does any reasonable person think they can be trusted with anything?

reply to post by kiwifoot


Hmm.. 'we've been here before'..yes we have, but either this guy said this two months ago, and there is evidence of the date he said it, or there isn't.

If there is, and as we are seeing now in Ukraine, was correct...then it matters not what you think of the reliability of the source, the information is either correct or it's not...and it's looking like it is correct isn't it?

Unfortunately.

Ukraine's desperate pleas for help fell on deaf years today, as EU and USA refused any help to this nation. Sources in administration of the president's office told under the condition of anonimity that both US President Obama and President of the European Commision Barroso refused to take calls from President Youschenko. Yesterday night, desperate prime minister of Ukraine Yulia Tymoshenko called Prime Minister of Russia Putin asking for mediation. Putin immediately called to Prime Minister of Sweden Fredrik Reinfeldt, which is currently chairing the European Union, however, he got a stark refusal to offer any help to dying Ukrainians. It seems that the Illuminati, who totally control EU and western mass-media had written a death warrant to the Ukrainian nation.

Originally posted by squiz

I also heard they made quite large profit projections in 2008? anyone confirm.

yep..i had the pdf download from their site..the 2008 financial report and the outlook and projections for 2009...they ESTIMATED a 530% increase in sales due to 'increased uptake of our products by governments worldwide'....

This has unfolded fast, here's some summarized incident updates from RSOE.

hisz.rsoe.hu...

Definitely sounds like something different.
From seven fatalities on the 29th, now currently at 67 and 190, 000 infected. H1N1 or otherwise.

Ivano-Frankivsk Oblast: All the six dead young people had symptoms of severe hemmorhagic pneumonia. The disease starts slowly, with temperature rising to 37.2 – 37.3 degrees, slight cough and pain in joints. Nasal catarrh developed at the end of the second or third day. Autopsy revealed that the lungs were soaked with blood, the oblast chief specialist said.

Now we are seeing the mainstream media begin it's reporting, except of course it's all swine flu and no mention of the other reports or unconfirmed results.

And thanks alienesque.

Just edited this post as the death toll has jumped 7 since.

[edit on 2-11-2009 by squiz]

For those having trouble governments and corporations could commit mass murder in the name of power and money: yes they can. Take it from a Native American.

Originally posted by tothetenthpower


There is obviously proof of something going on.

I do not think this word means what you think it means.

I am sorry but this Moshe guy had said there was RNA from the 1918 Pandemic but the thing is the 1918 pandemic was H1N1 aka swine flu. And as many know RNA can be used to create a vaccine. pathmicro.med.sc.edu...

My point is, if the vaccine has RNA from the 1918 pandemic then it is a legitimate swine flu vaccine and his point proves nothing.

Nice try guys but this conspiracy just got beat.

NEXT!

edit: this is the link shows that the spanish flu (1918 pandemic) was in fact H1N1 www.recombinomics.com...

[edit on 2-11-2009 by sharandhan]

I would like to add a personal touch to this story.

My 30 yr old son has been sick for weeks with some nasty flu like crap.... he sounds like hell on the phone.

At the end of last week, I read a few blips about this happening in the Ukraine and I started thinking.....

My son works at Pittsburgh International Airport....remember the recent G-20? Well, during that week, he saw (and was in close proximity to) people from all over the world, but his most noteworthy story was the time he spent with the Russian pilots. Somehow the ENTIRE crew on that particular flight missed a customs inspection completely. So much for security. BUT, when customs realized the error (some 4 hours AFTER the crew had gone off to their hotel) they were asked to return to the airport for the inspection. Guess who went to get them? Yes, it was my son. And he spent his time with them in a van...I think it was 45 min to an hour each way in transit. And then, less than a week later he got sick. And he's still sick.

Coincidence??

You decide.

Originally posted by dnvrliz
Professor Moshe had called into a live radio show by Dr. A. True Ott, broadcast on Republic Broadcasting claiming to be a microbiologist who wanted to supply evidence to a States Attorney regarding tainted H1N1 Swine flu vaccines being produced by Baxter BioPharma Solutions. He said that Baxter’s Ukrainian lab was in fact producing a bioweapon disguised as a vaccine. He claimed that the vaccine contained an adjuvant (additive) designed to weaken the immune system, and replicated RNA from the virus responsible for the 1918 pandemic Spanish flu, causing global sickness and mass death.

You state this like it's a fact, but ... Dr. Ott has said that he THINKS Joseph Moshe might have called the show the day before.

Let's stay with the truth please.

Originally posted by Nichiren

You state this like it's a fact, but ... Dr. Ott has said that he THINKS Joseph Moshe might have called the show the day before.

Let's stay with the truth please.

I THINK most people remember the jist of what happened the day before. Especially when it involves documentation of an engineered virus on a medical radio show.


[edit on 2-11-2009 by wanderingwaldo]

Originally posted by MajorDisaster

Originally posted by Nichiren
reply to post by MajorDisaster

 

Can you point me to a link where I can see that J. Moshe really called Dr. Ott's radio show? As far as I know Dr. Ott only thinks that a caller might have been J. Moshe.

Your theory is plausible, but we need facts. Thank you.

Link

educate-yourself.org...

The interview in question may be this one. I don't have time to listen to it right now but if anybody can pinpoint the part where Moshe calls in that'd be great

[edit on 2-11-2009 by MajorDisaster]

Thank you for your speedy reply!

There was no mention of Joseph Moshe in your mp3. The article you linked me to claims that he is a Mossad agent, but it stems from a blogger and there is no evidence that it's true.

Again, I think it's plausible that Mr. Moshe was trying to expose something, but all the wild claims about his connection to the Israeli Mossad are only rumor-based and there is not even evidence that he actually called any radio show.

Originally posted by ahemot
Ukraine's desperate pleas for help fell on deaf years today, as EU and USA refused any help to this nation. Sources in administration of the president's office told under the condition of anonimity that both US President Obama and President of the European Commision Barroso refused to take calls from President Youschenko. Yesterday night, desperate prime minister of Ukraine Yulia Tymoshenko called Prime Minister of Russia Putin asking for mediation. Putin immediately called to Prime Minister of Sweden Fredrik Reinfeldt, which is currently chairing the European Union, however, he got a stark refusal to offer any help to dying Ukrainians. It seems that the Illuminati, who totally control EU and western mass-media had written a death warrant to the Ukrainian nation.

Please provide the source for your information as I am unable to find it. Thanks in advance.

Originally posted by alienesque

Originally posted by squiz

I also heard they made quite large profit projections in 2008? anyone confirm.

yep..i had the pdf download from their site..the 2008 financial report and the outlook and projections for 2009...they ESTIMATED a 530% increase in sales due to 'increased uptake of our products by governments worldwide'....

Can you provide a copy for the record. Would love to save it for the future.

Originally posted by sharandhan
I am sorry but this Moshe guy had said there was RNA from the 1918 Pandemic but the thing is the 1918 pandemic was H1N1 aka swine flu. And as many know RNA can be used to create a vaccine. pathmicro.med.sc.edu...

My point is, if the vaccine has RNA from the 1918 pandemic then it is a legitimate swine flu vaccine and his point proves nothing.

Nice try guys but this conspiracy just got beat.

NEXT!

edit: this is the link shows that the spanish flu (1918 pandemic) was in fact H1N1 www.recombinomics.com...

[edit on 2-11-2009 by sharandhan]

Whats your point again?

acronym for ribonucleic acid, a type of nucleic acid that performs various roles in the replication and functioning of living organisms. RNA takes part in the transcription (transfer) and replication of hereditary information that is stored in DNA (deoxyribonucleic acid) and in the expression of this information through protein production. Some types of RNA, called ribozymes, serve as enzymes, or catalysts of biochemical reactions. RNA also is the main genetic substance in certain kinds of viruses and is the constituent of viroids—tiny infectious particles that cause disease in higher plants. In eukaryotes, or organisms whose cells have a nucleus, RNA is found both in the nucleus and in the cytoplasm outside it (see Cell).
www.history.com...


The impact of this pandemic was not limited to 1918–1919. All influenza A pandemics since that time, and indeed almost all cases of influenza A worldwide (excepting human infections from avian viruses such as H5N1 and H7N7), have been caused by descendants of the 1918 virus, including "drifted" H1N1 viruses and reassorted H2N2 and H3N2 viruses. The latter are composed of key genes from the 1918 virus, updated by subsequently incorporated avian influenza genes that code for novel surface proteins, making the 1918 virus indeed the "mother" of all pandemics.
www.cdc.gov...



[edit on 2-11-2009 by liveandletlive]

[edit on 2-11-2009 by liveandletlive]

Oh , another catastrophe?... great LETS GRAB POWER !!!

updated by subsequently incorporated avian influenza genes that code for novel surface proteins, making the 1918 virus indeed the "mother" of all pandemics.
www.cdc.gov...
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if this is the mother.... we're better looking for the father instead :-)

Originally posted by wanderingwaldo

Originally posted by Nichiren

You state this like it's a fact, but ... Dr. Ott has said that he THINKS Joseph Moshe might have called the show the day before.

Let's stay with the truth please.

I THINK most people remember the jist of what happened the day before. Especially when it involves documentation of an engineered virus on a medical radio show.


[edit on 2-11-2009 by wanderingwaldo]

Since when is an anonymous caller on a radio show "documentation"? You and I could say anything on that show.

BTW: Please post a link so I can listen to that caller. I've been trying to find a recording (documentation LOL) of this alleged caller, but haven't found a thing on the web. This would be big news and any show would have posted that part by now ...

Originally posted by ahemot
Sources in administration of the president's office told under the condition of anonimity that ...

Anonymous sources = fairy tale. Also any links to that story?