Number of victims to unknown virus growing! State of emergency to be imposed in Ukraine?

reply to post by asen_y2k


So it's full quarantine now, airports shut down? How about the borders?

Thanks for the info ..keep us updated and take care!

reply to post by dreamseeker


Yes we stay in if not absolutely necessary to go out. Only reason we go out is to get food or medicines...Oh i forgot to mention...markets have no lemon or garlic in store.

double post...

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Originally posted by asen_y2k
reply to post by dreamseeker

 

Yes we stay in if not absolutely necessary to go out. Only reason we go out is to get food or medicines...Oh i forgot to mention...markets have no lemon or garlic in store.

why is there no garlic or lemon in stores? Do they have some sort of medicinal use?

Damn triple post...

[edit on 31/10/09 by asen_y2k]

reply to post by asen_y2k


Just a thought ..but if I were you ..I would really stock up with food and fresh water right now. If it's going to hit up real hard, soon you don't have them in stores.

So food which lasts long without spoiling, warm clothes, lots of fresh water to drink and such ..stock up and stay put and safe if it looks that bad. If what you're saying is true, it is not going to be over soon, be ready for it.

reply to post by asen_y2k


So you're stuck there with the borders closed, and the airports shut? My best wishes are with you...please stay safe. I'm know I'm late to this thread, but I've been reading it since page one, and it's very worrying. We all appreciate you keeping us up to date...thank you so much.

Meanwhile...I'm wondering what the mail service is like in the Ukraine...we have strikes here in the UK just now, but maybe some bright spark somewhere in the EU could mail you some meds if that would help? No-one would need to know if they just go in an envelope....just thinking out loud so apologies if it's a rubbish suggestion.

Cait x

Originally posted by dreamseeker

Originally posted by asen_y2k
reply to post by dreamseeker

 

Yes we stay in if not absolutely necessary to go out. Only reason we go out is to get food or medicines...Oh i forgot to mention...markets have no lemon or garlic in store.

why is there no garlic or lemon in stores? Do they have some sort of medicinal use?

Yes we have been told by the doctors to use lemon and garlic. Thy say it helps.

I wnet to google and typed in a search for "Ukraine outbreak". Quite a few results came up so if someone who is not at work, as I currently am, Would like to investigate further maybe some good information there. I am monitoring this thread like crazy as it could have implications for everyone.

Stay safe everyone and OP best of luck to you.

reply to post by asen_y2k


One thing, you're med student right? Just wondering did you get any info about it when still in uni? Do they have any idea is it bacterial or is it virus based?

Does anyone else have any information if this is in fact Pneumonia Plague? I've already got a couple lbs of vit-c, but am thinking now is a good time to stock up on vit-d & a as well. If 150,000 are already infected, and it's course lasts only a few days, we should be seeing if the mortality rate is high as suspected very soon, correct?

I realize that the number of infected are rising rapidly, but still, hundreds would be dead within the next 48 hours, if the mortality rate is >5%. So far I see 48 deaths.

MOSCOW. Died in Ukraine are already 48 people in the flu, tens of thousands have been infected. Dies erklärte der ukrainische Präsident Viktor Juschtschenko am Samstag auf seiner Website. That said, the Ukrainian President Viktor Yushchenko on Saturday on its Web site. Juschtschenko sprach von elf Ukrainern, die an den Folgen der Schweinegrippe starben. Yushchenko spoke of eleven Ukrainians who died as a result of swine flu. Gesundheitsminister Wasili Knjasewitsch erklärte dagegen der Agentur RIA Nowosti zufolge, eine Person sei an der Schweinegrippe gestorben, 13 weitere hätten sich infiziert. Health Minister Vasili Knjasewitsch said, however, the agency RIA Novosti said a person had died of swine flu, 13 more were infected. Seit Freitag sind die Schulen in der früheren Sowjetrepublik geschlossen, Kino-Vorführungen und Konzerte wurden abgesagt. Since Friday, the schools in the former Soviet republic are closed, cinema screenings and concerts were canceled. So soll die weitere Ausbreitung der Grippe gestoppt werden, an der laut Juschtschenko schon 150.000 Menschen in der Ukraine erkrankt sind. Thus the further spread of the flu is to be stopped, which affects an already 150,000 people, according to Yushchenko in Ukraine. Die Arten der Grippe unterschied der Präsident nicht. The types of influenza did not differ by the President. Der Ausbruch startete in der westlichen Region Ternopil. The outbreak started in the western region of Ternopil. Laut Medienberichten gibt es inzwischen in der Ukraine eine erhebliche Knappheit an Anti-Grippe-Mitteln und Atemschutzmasken. According to media reports there are now in the Ukraine is serious shortage of anti-influenza agents and respirators.

48 flu victims in the Ukraine - Eleven people killed by swine flu

reply to post by Luppakorva


Yep I have enough food stocked up for about a month. Warm cloths also. Only thing we don't have are medicines....the med stores are all empty

reply to post by caitlinfae


I am really amazed at how much people care. Thanks a lot. Right now i am still ok. If the situation gets worse I will have no other choice other than request someone to help me out. Thanks again so much.

Since the speculation is around Pneumonic Plague, I wonder if this is the same one as hit china a few months ago?
Source

Asen, do please take care...

Originally posted by Luppakorva
reply to post by asen_y2k

 

One thing, you're med student right? Just wondering did you get any info about it when still in uni? Do they have any idea is it bacterial or is it virus based?

We are foreigners here, so we don't really read the news or anything. 1st time I heard it was from my teacher in the Uni. I posted it right now, i think its in this page or the previous.

My guess its viral. Teachers tell us it kills in 3 days and has a much more mortality rate....

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No information about this in the Norwegian media either!

I find it somewhat strange that Norway is hit hard the last couple of weeks with higher deathrate then most countrys,and now this happens in other countrys as well, and NO massmedias are adding som News about other countrys with simmular outbrake!

Wouldnt it bee wiser to share info across the world...and try to cooporate with eachoter?

Something doesn't add up, THAT i know!! And somehow I dont like it, I do not fear what ever treath this is, what worries me the most is peoples reactions to it!

reply to post by unityemissions


There's bound to be more deaths , they are just yet not reported yet....must be people at home dying ...people who live alone or whose families have only just reported the death, homeless people dying, people dying and death not being reported as H1N1 related, etc , but still the fatalities seem low so it doesn't seem to be something to panic about as yet

Medics in Ukraine to sign information nondisclosure agreements: no information on the "pneumonic plague" can be revealed to the public.

ovod-ussr.livejournal.com...

reply to post by dreamseeker

Lemon is good source of vitamin C. Garlic is one of strongest natural antibiotics. Garlic will probably not help you with virus, but can stop bacterial infections which are real death threat (pneumonia atc..). Virus weaken your imunity system and bacterias have than better chance to successfully colonize your body.
I'm not doc, so take my info as is.

another link

fluboard.rhizalabs.com...

Originally posted by cosmicpixie
reply to post by unityemissions

 

There's bound to be more deaths , they are just yet not reported yet....must be people at home dying ...people who live alone or whose families have only just reported the death, homeless people dying, people dying and death not being reported as H1N1 related, etc , but still the fatalities seem low so it doesn't seem to be something to panic about as yet

This is the same thing I was wondering. About how accurate these reports are. And the fact that there are so few media outlets reporting this at all strikes me as rather odd.

Good luck asen_y2k and stay safe! And thank you for this thread, I have been watching it like a hawk.