Moon: 19 58 48.31 N 21 11 35.57 E

I didn't read any replys past the first page but what I am about to say is obvious to abnyone that will think about it.

PLEASE STOP CALLING IT A ROCK!
How many rocks have you seen with 90 degrre angles and perfectly straight sides on it? Nature and natural geological process doesn't create anything like this. So if it is not a flaw in the imaging (an artifact) then it was created by someone or something artificially.

But since it's resolution is crap, we'll never know. Your tax dollars at work.
We just can't say what it IS. But we can say it's not a ROCK.

[edit on 22-10-2009 by Enigma Publius]

i guess google is facing some tough questions.... as to how that one slipped through.....

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No angles? No straight lines? Really?







[edit on 10/23/2009 by Phage]

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Speaking of the moon,where in the heck is it?!
I've been looking up towards the sky,but haven't been able to locate it anywhere!
It's been like this for the past week now,no moon,it has seemed to vanish.

Also of interest is this area.

20° 9'59.51"N 19°48'48.93"E

Looks like. . .well, I am unsure.

[edit on 23-10-2009 by Divine Strake]

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phage, I think you would have to agree that what caused those geological formations on earth (erosion due to action by wind and water) is absent on the moon...

why wasn't this on the circa '60s photos?

can we rule out vulcanism? they said the last active volcano on the moon was a billion years ago...

could a moonquake cause a rock to be exposed like that?

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Hmmmm 18°38'50.47"N 27° 4'52.11"E

This one WILL blow your MIND!

[edit on 23-10-2009 by Divine Strake]

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upload the picture...some ATSers aren't handy with google moon, you know

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No.
Those formations on Earth are not caused by erosion. I was just pointing out that there are plenty of straight lines and right angles in nature.

But what we are looking at is not natural, it is something introduced by Google, as has been demonstrated in these posts:
www.abovetopsecret.com...
www.abovetopsecret.com...

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[edit on 23-10-2009 by Divine Strake]

Originally posted by Phage
But what we are looking at is not natural, it is something introduced by Google, as has been demonstrated in these posts:
www.abovetopsecret.com...
www.abovetopsecret.com...

Really!?

I thought for sure you would say these are caused by glitches in the Clementine browser!?

I seriously doubt it is anything introduced by Google. I also doubt that it is dirt inbetween the lens... Why is there a bunch of dirt floating around? Wouldn't that potentially get in the equipment and jam it up? No, I think the dirt explenation is unlikely.

Isn't there a pretty popular Clementine image of a base similar to this but when viewed with the latest browser it dissapears? I thought this might even be made from that image. I was certain this would be the "explenation" and am suprised this thread has gone on as long as it has without any mention of this possibility.

If Phage's best debunk is dirt introduced by Google then I'm beggining to belive it really is a Moon base, because it certainly is not the former.

After 8 pages there has been no real good debunk evidence worthy to be honest and I go with a graphic anomaly or a structure.

Phage even if its a strata anomaly its a strange one for sure and how can we compare to the earths rock formations to the Moons?, and I agree nature can make some wild way out rock formations but it depends on the atmosphere, weather, volcanic activity etc. Ok some strata may have been pushed up here and there and has a different light signiture than the surface.

I know you can do better than this Phage

Considering the Moons general land scape of surface dust, craters and the odd rock here and there in that area well it seems a bit strange?

Hi people of ATS. Im new but have read threads everyday on ATS for almost 2 years now and because of this thread have decided to become a member so that I can comment on this. Now as far as the picture the OP has posted I just cannot see it be debunked so easily as to say its dust in between lenses or even a pixelation anomoly because if you look at the touched up version of the photo I cannot explain away the simetrical and exactly precise circle with the number 5 in the middle.

Google Moon isn't the only source of artificial looking structures on the Moon. I had downloaded some pictures awhile ago from the Selena Moon mission and thankfully labeled them.

Oppenheimer Crater (edited). Observation date : 2007.12.03
[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/2b26e3f1a21f.jpg[/atsimg]

Oppenheimer anomaly (cropped image).
[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/b24857e9cf02.jpg[/atsimg]

Jackson Crater (edited) Observation date : 2007.12.03
[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/b9a8791f0759.jpg[/atsimg]

Jackson Crater Pyramid (cropped). I know, "Moon Pyramids?!", but this one I couldn't refuse.
[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/b9b0d1e3cf2d.jpg[/atsimg]

Jackson Crater Pyramid (edited).
[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/f36c41668a1d.jpg[/atsimg]

It reminded me of a Maya Pyramid [atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/da2cf66dc830.jpg[/atsimg]

All of these images have been either re-sized/shaped, cropped or edited (adding text and highlights).

The Kaguya web site with the original images from the JAXA space program has been updated since I downloaded them. The original images can be found at this link using the "Observation Dates".
Kaguya Image Gallery.

Oh, I almost forgot....
These are just weird looking rock features, nothing to see here so move along...

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How could it be caused by the Clementine browser? Not only does Google not use the browser, the image is not from Clementine at all.

The image comes from the Apollo Image Archive at Arizona State University. It is a scan from an image taken on Apollo 15 (AS15-M-1120). You can see the speck that Google's fiddling has "enhanced". There are, as has been pointed out, a lot of specks on this series of scans.

As a consequence of this precaution, the cleaning process only removes those debris that are loosely adhered to the film stock (e.g. dust and lint) but any strongly adhered debris are simply left on the film and noted during subsequent digital image processing.

apollo.sese.asu.edu...
[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/3618bb05cf24.png[/atsimg]You can get the original scan here (it's big, really big):
apollo.sese.asu.edu...

Here's the same location taken on Apollo 17 (AS17-M-0454) with much better lighting conditions (and scanned with a cleaner scanner).[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/aad868702e29.png[/atsimg]

Correction: What we are seeing here may not be from the scanning process but may be present in the original images:

Subsequent analysis during image reprocessing has revealed that during the missions foreign debris are present in the optical path of the camera system and can be seen in the seen in the photographic exposures.

[edit on 10/23/2009 by Phage]

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I don't have Google Moon/Earth and wasn't sure what images were used,(I guess I should get it) I just assumed it would end up being a Clementine image because I've seen similar looking stuff on those images.

I still don't think the "base" is dirt though. Maybe the black specs, but the other thing I just can't rationalize as dust.

Thanks for posting the link to the real image though Phage

Sorry people, but am I the only one who looks at the first picture of the thread and thinks this is as fake as a pornstar's breast? You can clearly see the tampering around the object with the naked eye...

Originally posted by Devino
Google Moon isn't the only source of artificial looking structures on the Moon. I had downloaded some pictures awhile ago from the Selena Moon mission and thankfully labeled them.

Oppenheimer Crater (edited). Observation date : 2007.12.03
[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/2b26e3f1a21f.jpg[/atsimg]

Oppenheimer anomaly (cropped image).
[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/b24857e9cf02.jpg[/atsimg]

Jackson Crater (edited) Observation date : 2007.12.03
[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/b9a8791f0759.jpg[/atsimg]

Jackson Crater Pyramid (cropped). I know, "Moon Pyramids?!", but this one I couldn't refuse.
[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/b9b0d1e3cf2d.jpg[/atsimg]

Jackson Crater Pyramid (edited).
[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/f36c41668a1d.jpg[/atsimg]

It reminded me of a Maya Pyramid [atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/da2cf66dc830.jpg[/atsimg]

All of these images have been either re-sized/shaped, cropped or edited (adding text and highlights).

The Kaguya web site with the original images from the JAXA space program has been updated since I downloaded them. The original images can be found at this link using the "Observation Dates".
Kaguya Image Gallery.

Oh, I almost forgot....
These are just weird looking rock features, nothing to see here so move along...

Thanks! now this can be just a strata post reflex meteorite strike or a structure designed to blend in with the terrain?

Its in the eye of the beholder?

Well thats certainly something strange, if it is dust then that piece of dust just so happens to look like a structure with what seems to be a landing pad and buildings.