Moon: 19 58 48.31 N 21 11 35.57 E

Originally posted by mcmauro
reply to post by Arbitrageur

 

Quote you:
"I think this should have been case closed back on page 5"

So all the subjects must bend to your opinion Mr Arbitrageur and Mr Phage?

[edit on 23-10-2009 by mcmauro]

Boy, am I glad my name was not added to the above 2, this time.

reply to post by Tifozi


I don't need to refute anyone. I truly believe I have the answer to everything in this life. So I may not exactly have great knowledge about how geology causes fractals or whatever, but I'm quite secure in the beliefs that I have come to view as fact from not only scientific proof, but my own two eyes.

I do get sick of these so called "experts" trying to disprove every single photo or attempt to further evidence of possible extraterrestrial anomalous formations/activities on our close planets or in the skies.

Originally posted by Unity_99
I agree, and there was a project that took abductees and children to bases on the moon for several decades at least, and a hybrid program along with psi groups. It seemed to have a Vrill related component, for I recall nazis in connection with that project as well.

Weren't the Raelians and Scientologists connected with this? I think Jim Jones was getting a large packet of people ready to make the trip but they suffered from acid reflex or something like that.

I don't know, as the only things I know about Scientology, or even the mystery schools are links on threads on forums, or things my friends allude to in their general knowledge. I do have memories of the program I mentioned though.

I had to go and check out the platform looking thing on the moon myself. While looking around for an hour I ran across a crater with something in it. Will someone who knows what there doing look at it and tell me what you see. Strange! (or either my screen had a pile of ants on it)
61 33 57.07N 107 47 15.26E Thanks Vickie

Really strange Vickie, and it's like a "fogging" in the middle , sure it's just... ants

Originally posted by Jb0311NY

Originally posted by donkey86
reply to post by nomadros

 

My pic
[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/1c8992f4d809.jpg[/atsimg]

it looks like a command and conquer terrorist base.

can we have some shoe?? okay!okay! i will work!

If only we could spot a field of tiberium, we'd make a hell of a case.

But pun aside, I don't care what it is anymore (OK that was a big lie), but I am trying REAL HARD not to see, at least, these basic shapes in the image:

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/7a60e9acd457.jpg[/atsimg]



See full image here: files.abovetopsecret.com...

Originally posted by Soboro
I wasn't going to bother posting this but whatever i guess lol

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/304c39787efd.gif[/atsimg]

That's starting at your location and using the ruler following a heading of about 104-105 degress every 21 miles or so.

That whole giant strip image across the moon is filled with similar anomolies that repeat over and over again and slightly differently each time. I was going to post a long time about such a thing along the top edge of the map until I noticed the repeating and then more all over the place doing the same thing. I figured it was just debris floating around in the satellite between the lens and a protective piece of glass.

Nice moves... works for me. Thanks for clearing this up

reply to post by vickie_35758


Now thats' pretty interesting. Good find. Looks like a bunch of penguins on an iceberg or something.

By attacking the person posting rather than their reply is an attempt at derailing the discussion. It triggers an automatic defense response and the only correct way to respond to that is to not respond. How does this help further the discussion?
Someone adds something to the discussion in a reply, gets personal attacks then replies no more. This is not skepticism, a different word is used to describe this action.

Perhaps questions to Arbitrageur, Phage or Soboro should pertain to the images. I read somewhere in this thread that Google Moon is a collective of Apollo pictures, I would assume also Clementine pics as well.
Is this correct?
Can we locate the original pictures, Apollo or Clementine?
How about different pics of the same location to compare with?
I think marking the locations of these anomalies on a larger map of the Moon would also help a lot and replying with a bunch of numbers (coordinates) is worthless IMO.

I would say that out of the thousands of images I have looked closely at of the Moon over the years I have seen enough to know that there are many anomalies there. I have not seen enough, however, to know exactly what they are (artificial construction or natural occurrence) but over all I understand the Moon to be a very weird and interesting place. All of this has forever changed the way I look at the Moon.

reply to post by mcrom901


I have read much about the Carolina Bays in the past but it was the connection to the
"Younger Dryas",
"Black Mat"
and
"Clovis Comet" that really caught my attention.

The yet to be recognized cause for these events is linked to other odd geological formations like;
Fulgurites.
Concretions.
And other
Enigmas in Stone.

All of this is just the tip of the ice berg and it does have a connection to the Moon anomalies. To understand this connection requires a lot of reading, some imagination and the ability to accept that, scientifically, we don't know very much about Astrogeology.

Originally posted by Devino
By attacking the person posting rather than their reply is an attempt at derailing the discussion. It triggers an automatic defense response and the only correct way to respond to that is to not respond. How does this help further the discussion?

Skeptical Ed: "SOP"

Can we locate the original pictures, Apollo or Clementine?

Skeptical Ed: "Apollo images can be found if you use google, but here's a quick fix: www.apolloarchive.com... IMO, Clementine images are inferior."

Originally posted by Devino
By attacking the person posting rather than their reply is an attempt at derailing the discussion. It triggers an automatic defense response and the only correct way to respond to that is to not respond. How does this help further the discussion?
Someone adds something to the discussion in a reply, gets personal attacks then replies no more. This is not skepticism, a different word is used to describe this action.

Perhaps questions to Arbitrageur, Phage or Soboro should pertain to the images. I read somewhere in this thread that Google Moon is a collective of Apollo pictures, I would assume also Clementine pics as well.
Is this correct?
Can we locate the original pictures, Apollo or Clementine?
How about different pics of the same location to compare with?

Thanks for asking questions Devino. You're right that's more productive than making attacks. We should be discussing the subject matter, not each other. I also don't see how attacking Carl Sagan in my signature adds to the discussion.

Well reading the thread helps too, I believe Phage has already answered the questions you just asked to some extent several pages ago, but his answer is reposted here as it's quite an informative post:

reply to post by Phage

Originally posted by Phage
reply to post by fieryjaguarpaw

 

How could it be caused by the Clementine browser? Not only does Google not use the browser, the image is not from Clementine at all.

The image comes from the Apollo Image Archive at Arizona State University. It is a scan from an image taken on Apollo 15 (AS15-M-1120). You can see the speck that Google's fiddling has "enhanced". There are, as has been pointed out, a lot of specks on this series of scans.

As a consequence of this precaution, the cleaning process only removes those debris that are loosely adhered to the film stock (e.g. dust and lint) but any strongly adhered debris are simply left on the film and noted during subsequent digital image processing.

apollo.sese.asu.edu...
[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/3618bb05cf24.png[/atsimg]You can get the original scan here (it's big, really big):
apollo.sese.asu.edu...

Here's the same location taken on Apollo 17 (AS17-M-0454) with much better lighting conditions (and scanned with a cleaner scanner).[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/aad868702e29.png[/atsimg]

Correction: What we are seeing here may not be from the scanning process but may be present in the original images:

Subsequent analysis during image reprocessing has revealed that during the missions foreign debris are present in the optical path of the camera system and can be seen in the seen in the photographic exposures.

I don't expect anyone to just accept what Phage or I or anyone else says without question, but rather, look at this evidence , and the just reposted movie by Soboro and it points to a quite compelling explanation that there is no anomaly on the moon in this location, and you have a pretty good explanation in the movie of where the "anomaly" comes from. It appeared in the Apollo 13 photos but not the Apollo 17 photos, and we can see what the source is in the Apollo 13 photos in Soboro's movie. I also looked at this location in the Clementine 2.0 image browser but even zoomed in to the max the resolution is not as good as we have from the Apollo 13 and 17 pics.

Note Phage also answered the question about why the black speck doesn't look black, it's been fiddled with by Google, but it has the same shape. There is other evidence of this earlier in the thread too but I think this is enough re-posting for now.

So look at the evidence, and let's debate the evidence. If you see something about it that's not convincing, we can discuss aspects of that. Or if you have counter evidence to present feel free to do that. But let's please focus on the evidence and not each other, thanks.

A "real" Moon Bug or a "digital" Moon Bug?



[edit on 25-10-2009 by Imagir]

[edit on 25-10-2009 by Imagir]

what if ET's actaully live inside the moon? what if the moon is actually a bit hollow? this could be a like a highly advanced elevator on the moon. and the bottom of this elevator leads to a HUGE civilization of a random and diguised race sounds far fetched but, whats real anymore? but on the flip side it could of been placed there by google to keep us guessing...