An attack on America by Europe

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This is a very relevant post to the world we now live in. I too wonder like the late George Carlin, what is it about "brown people" that makes white people want to "bomb the **** out of them"?

If you think that in this day and age, however, that any ethnic minorities are the only targets for the power elite, take a look in the mirror. I also suggest you take a look at this article:

The Mask Slips

Originally posted by GypsK
reply to post by nenothtu

 

I admit, I didn't know that
thanks for clarifying

You get a star for that. See? We CAN play nice, when we get past the tantrum throwing stages.

Originally posted by poedxsoldiervet
reply to post by mr-lizard

 

No America did not blow up the twin towers, Bin Laden’s henchmen did. No we have not won any territory nor do we get any spoils of war from Iraq... Believe what you want to believe but you are wrong in your observations ( my thoughts)

The whole point of this thread was to point out to Europe that you blame America for the troubles of the world when In doubt you two are the problem. But typical stuff here that people ignore one thing and connect it with something random.

I Don't blame the American people, I blame the American Govt, I blame the UK Govt, I blame the Iran Govt, I blame every Govt around the world because they are all to blame. They all want power, raw materials etc etc.

Also you say that America has got nothing, no spoils of war from IRAQ, Have a look at what companies won the major oil contracts there. There are many spoils for America from the war in Iraq, some directly, some not so directly.

An attack on America by Europe.

Yes we admit it! We are secretly doing this at all fronts! Even When you are not aware of this, when you see a friendly post of another European poster being friendly at you..smiling..making jokes.. the thing is he might only be trying to get you of guard.. before getting in for the kill..

Although I must confess that it was not our initial thought of doing this..We are not to blame. Others are the masterminds behind this huge and covert operation. Cherchez_la_femme my dear friends!

Yes yes! Your American women talked us in to this...

Look here if you don't believe me..

It's a conspiracy site right? So I offer another conspiracy to the board..

(that thread tittle was actually asking for it)

Originally posted by poedxsoldiervet
reply to post by Dermo

 

again What? No million Iraqis died there and show me some proof the Ron Paul said that... And incase you are not aware and need a recent history lesson the war is not Illegal the US Congress authorized use of force to remove Saddam. nuff said.

LOL it is illegal my friend from across the pond,The UN would have to authorise the use of force against Iraq-If you cast your mind back to just before the war the UN was bugged by certain goverments shady intel people to see how they would vote.Tony Blair was trying his hardest to tell Bush that the UN would allow it,but when they found out there was no way they didnt bother to wait for the UN and dropped the bombs for fun

I think some of you yanks are wrapped too tightly in your stars and stripes to see the real world,and fall for the media brainswashing and revised history lessons

OF topic slightly,Blair was confronted by parents of the poor brave british soldiers about this disgusting lie of a war and he said getting rid of saddam was the right thing to do!
BS-He himself is on record saying that Saddam could stay in power as long as his WMD were destroyed.The deluded fool lives in a bubble of reality so far out of sync to what we all live in on this board

You are right about Europes bloody past,shame my country tarnished its modern image with this dispicable theatre of war.

It looks like the rest of europe learnt its lessons,hopefully our two countries can do the same one day

So let me see if I can keep score here... for the sake of thread space, we'll start somewhere around the time of the Caesars...

Rome conquered most of Europe, bloodletting everyone from the Norman-Saxons on down... then the Visigoths (or was it the Goths?) sacked Rome, killing thousands upon thousands... Europe engaged in the 1st and 2nd Great Crusades to defend (or retake) Jerusalem from the Moors, both sides killing tens of thousands... the Spanish had their Inquisition, the Roman Catholic Church had people excommunicated or burned at the stake for daring to believe things like the Earth wasn't the center of the Universe... the 100 years war, the War of the Roses, the sinking of the Spanish fleet by the British, the French Revolution which is why we know what a guillotine is, millions of South American natives slaughtered at the hands of the Spanish, the French and Indian war in which smallpox riddled blankies were used as siege weapons, the American Revolution which all but destroyed the British military as well as the East Coast of the current U.S., the war of 1812, Napoleon's genocidal idiocy, Mexican-American war, the virtual elimination of Native Americans, the Spanish-American war, some piddly little Archduke gets his head blown off in Austria-Hungary which brought us Mustard Gas and trench warfare, World War II, the Korean War in which even the U.N. had to pick a side which resulted in China getting pissed and kicking the U.N. and McCarthur clean out of Asia, the French bite off more than they can chew in Viet Nam, so the U.S. goes in and makes an even bigger mess, The Falklands, the Iran Revolution of '79, Grenada, the first Gulf War started by a lunatic despot and ended by the U.S. with a lot of U.N. backing, which lef to Iraq part deux, an Afghanistan which couldn't be taken by neither the Soviets nor (now) the Americans... that about it?

Okay, all that typing may have been for nothing as this post may be deleted, but I think it's safe to say after re-reading the above that historically, we're all a bunch of douchey jackasses that need to learn from past mistakes. Don't think any one nation can claim the prize on this one.

A funny thread about literally nothing aka much Ado about Nothing.
No one is better the the other be it cherokee, canadian, bavarian, spanyard or basque or whatever nation you want to point out.
No nation on this earth came to "fame" without rape, manslaugher or to be more precise, terror.
Maybe Europeans terrorized the New World until 1776, but the New World continued it until now.

reply to post by sharps


I can agree with your post for the most part, Nowhere did I mention that we are perfect (America) I have mentioned that are foreign policy needs to be revised... and as far as big business there not going to stop there crap until the government tightens down on them... But why would they do that considering the get millions in donations from them...

I will give you this example.. I am poor (money wise) I ran for Congress in 2008 I lost. Want to know why? Not because of my ideas, but because my Dem opponent and Repub opponent out spent me. Who both happened to be backed by Big labor and Big Business. As a matter of fact those two were more afraid of me then they were of each other. They ran attack adds against me and try to keep me out of the debate. even though at the debate my poll number were bumped up because people liked what I had to say...-) unfortunately though I lost because the ran adds like I like to eat puppies and such and there big Union work force who get paid to go get voters. So I know all to well about Americas Political Corruption-)

Originally posted by SLAYER69

Originally posted by Merriman Weir
*which don't really go anywhere near offsetting the anti-European or 'USA is #1 and the rest of y'all are looooooooseeers!' type posting that I've seen over the years.

Interesting perspective.

As an American I see the US being put under the microscope and judged all day everyday by the world. We get our actions thrown in our faces all the time here on ATS.

You do realise this is as a direct consequence of America taking centre stage in world affairs don't you. If you want to stand in the spotlight (and reap the applause, oil, whatever) then you've got to expect the negatives too.

When somebody simply points out what others have done now all of a sudden somebody starts saying we are claiming the following?????

[USA is #1] ?

You're taking this out of context. This thread is in reponse - no matter what the OP claims - to a couple of recent threads about American posters on ATS. Part of the reasoning behind those threads is due to what I mentioned above and you've quoted. Over the years, the 'USA OK!' cheer-leading has been rife, and more often than not, it's quickly followed up with comments about how great America is and how # it is everywhere else because we don't have American [insert variable from a long list]

And of course they throw this crap in there.

[Y'all]

Talk about generalizations

Sad really.

That's a bit rich considering the basis of this thread is about the lumping together of dozens of countries with different cultures and even languages as one single body that's, apparently, all the same.

And you've got the gall to talk about "generalisations"?

reply to post by poedxsoldiervet


You seem to forget that all americans, but not the natives, are just European luck seekers, convicts etc.. your not different then us, maybe just more European than us.. lol.

Great thread!

I heard that in Germany they deny anything that shows their involvement in World War II or something like that. Like they don't teach the kids in school about the Nazi party and what it did; pretty much they censor their shameful past from present generations. Someone know anything about this?

If this thread illustrates anything its that if two groups of people, who are so freaking similar, cant see eye to eye. What chance do we have with..........wait for it.........Arab people (gaaasssspppp)

Originally posted by colec156

Also you say that America has got nothing, no spoils of war from IRAQ, Have a look at what companies won the major oil contracts there. There are many spoils for America from the war in Iraq, some directly, some not so directly.

BP, China oil firm to control development of major new Iraq oil field

BAGHDAD — The Iraqi Oil Ministry has signed an agreement with British Petroleum and China's CNPC to develop the Rumeila oil field.

Oil companies accept Iraq bid terms

A consortium led by Italy’s Eni has agreed to develop the country’s 4.1 billion barrel Zubair oil field for $2 per barrel produced based on a target production level of 1.125 million barrels per day, he said.

Two other consortiums, one led by Russia’s Lukoil and ConocoPhilips, and another by Exxon Mobil with Royal Dutch Shell, have agreed to develop the 8.6 billion barrel West Qurna Stage 1 oil field for $1.9 per barrel, al-Shahristani said.

Originally posted by Merriman Weir

And you've got the gall to talk about "generalisations"?

Have I made any generalizations?

Originally posted by grrrrt
Great thread!

I heard that in Germany they deny anything that shows their involvement in World War II or something like that. Like they don't teach the kids in school about the Nazi party and what it did; pretty much they censor their shameful past from present generations. Someone know anything about this?

You have been mis-informed, they have publicly apologized for their role in the Holocaust and as recently as the last UN convention, a month ago was it, gave Blueprints from Aushwitz to the Israeli President.
I have to say though very refreshing that someone asked before making crazy statements!! Big ol Star.

Originally posted by grrrrt
Great thread!

I heard that in Germany they deny anything that shows their involvement in World War II or something like that. Like they don't teach the kids in school about the Nazi party and what it did; pretty much they censor their shameful past from present generations. Someone know anything about this?

Where did you hear this absolute nonsense?

Stupidest thing I have ever heard.

Of course they are embarrassed over what happened and act accordingly but pretending it never happened?

Please tell me you are not American, saying this in a thread where your general intelligence is being questioned

Originally posted by grrrrt
Great thread!

I heard that in Germany they deny anything that shows their involvement in World War II or something like that. Like they don't teach the kids in school about the Nazi party and what it did; pretty much they censor their shameful past from present generations. Someone know anything about this?

You must be kidding! Have you read a history book that is used in Germany? It is FULL of stuff about the Nazi time and noone except radical parties deny the involvement of german people in the Nazi Party or the denyal that the atrocities of WW2 never happened. Goolgle for Willy Brandt bow Warsaw.

I'm not darwinist, evolutionist, creationist or racist, but I think you're all just bunch of monkeys.

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I don't really mean that you're a monkey. Just that most of the time we act like monkeys, sleep like monkeys, look like monkeys, even think like monkeys.

Just kidding, of course you're not stupid filthy hairy creepy-looking beast. Or, are you? Can't be. Maybe, you're an alien! No wait, I know, you're a reptile! A bird? Superman! Batman, Spiderman?? Are you American, or European, or from Planet Krypton?

Silly Americans and Brits... and Europeans, not to mention Africans or Russians. Good thing Chinese are still normal... well, not according to Japan though, but Japs are crazy everyone knows that. Well... there must be a tiny corner on our planet where those Original™ Best of the Best People® dwell?

[edit on 20-10-2009 by SassyCat]

Originally posted by poedxsoldiervet
reply to post by Ulala

 

Did i say it wasnt or that wall street was right?

No, you obviously didn't ; I wish you would.

Why do you consider it so wrong for European settlers to exploit native races ... yet you have no opinion about present day American corporations which financially rape developing nations ? What happens when the Man from Delmonte says "No" ?

Making out as if you're all morally superior when you're in the gutter like everyone else.

What do you want me to do about European colonialism in the 17th & 18th C ? Send a letter of protest to Ye Olde Worlde New Amsterdam Times ? I wish I could ...

You meanwhile can do something about the wrongs of your nation. Get yourself off your PC, go and demonstrate, organise a tea party, set fire to yourself outside the White House or blow the President's brains out. At least you can do something ; I can't do anything about King Alfred burning the cakes.




*I do not advocate either setting fire to yourself or blowing the President's brains out*
*both would be baaaaaad*
*but would make for great tv*

[edit on 20-10-2009 by Ulala]

Originally posted by poedxsoldiervet
reply to post by sharps

 

I can agree with your post for the most part

What? hey! umm....we agree? how did that happen

Big respect for your Congress attempt. I too have been tempted, and the worse the world gets the more I want to take up public service. I've got two problems with it though, first I would hate to be 'known' I like anonymity. Also I have had to use 'herbal' pain relief for my disabilities over the years, and those skeletons always come out, and in the UK it's still an absolute no no for public service.