Never Underestimate The Stupidity Of The Masses

Really and Truly you see the exact same thing on ATS. Most of the posts/replies are about me, me, me selfishness. If the average person got their share they would gladly play along with the slaughter of others so long as their is even the faintest rational they can live with.

Seems like the day will come when a person will walk down the street and sneeze and later get a notification that their bank account has been debited for the sneezing fine and fore two days they'll be upset. But the day before they heard on the news that the sneezing fine has reduced the # of colds and they thought that's great, we should have had a sneezing fine years ago.

thank you, Op, for your post. As I see, there still is in America some free thinkers who are not afraid to labelled commies.

However, when you see Pearl Harbor and 9/11, 3000 dead people are worth 50 years of world domination aren't they ?

reply to post by Donkey_Dean


Sorry to distract from the thread, but here is the answer to your question.

Spirit Warrior, what does the 1111 mean? I see this number all the time, as well as 616. Does it have any meaning?

What do you want it to mean? Seriously think about that before reading the rest of the post.

The numbers have significance to many people for just the reason you mentioned. Many people see it all the time. In numberology 11 is a master number with a spiritual connotation. This is called a syncronicity. This number represents an awakening for humanity. The rest will be hard for you to grasp if you are just beginning your spiritual quest. On the other side of the veil are your other selves including your Higher Self. Some people call them guides or higher beings. They are tapping you on the shoulder when you see these numbers.

When you see 11:11 on the clock, stop and think about what is going on right then. In my case most of the time I just had a thought about something spiritual. I usually feel a pull to look at the clock at this time, seemingly out of nowhere. Yet when analyzed, I usually had a very positive thought or idea just then. 11/11 also happens to be my birthday, which is also significant. It is also Veterans Day. This is a triple syncronicity for me.

Here is a quote from numberology about it.

Master Number represents rare and exceptional energy originating from outside mundane reality, far from the norm.

The 11 is also known as the psychics number, it's the most intuitive of all numbers and it represents illumination and deep insight ...those with heavy 11 may possess illumination, unparalleled spiritual awareness....Artistic talent is common, as are big ideas, high standards, strong interest in metaphysics and holistic healing, humanitarianism, and public service, often through their work. 11 pertains to heightened awareness and those with plenty of 11 tend to get regular shocking insight about their life and other people. The 11 is also very sensitive, charismatic and inspirational. One of the major challenges of 11's is to develop confidence in their abilities and that's also the key to unlock their enormous potential.

What always amazes me is that there are so many willing to point out the stupidity of others without first looking into themselves and their own lives. I don't deny that many are simple sheep going through life with blinders on. But do not forget that there are just as many who, with the support of those of like thought would truly be willing to do something rather than sitting back and pointing blame.

You know, I really only just started posting here on ATS, and what I've noticed is that the only time someone quotes someone else or has a discussion of any sorts, is when everyone is bashing each other. Why?

ALSO...ignorant isn't such a bad word...it just means you dont know...most Americans don't know...or care....THAT'S obstinate

This thread and its title dont anger me or sadden me to any extreme,
what it does do is show me that forums and sites like this are working to bring together and expose all of us to the conditions whether they be past or present, that WE as a people are waking up to, in mass.
The frustrations that we all share, the hopes for our country, and yes the fears are becoming less contained within ourselves and are looking for action, for true unification, for results.
Some here cast insults and vulgarities that are just their frustrated emotions at each other and attach no options no ideas no plans,
These contributors feelings, be they only emotional and reactionary are just as real as those who DO have ideas and DO take actions,
"Not" as an insult to them, I would say theyd be good followers, good troops, not everyone is a leader, not everyone can formulate a plan.
Yet it seems we all have the ability to be as equally mad and upset about our current state of affairs.
I "do" attend and participate in my local township meetings, I "do" write my local and state representatives, and I "do" write my federal representatives as well.
If I were to attach percentages against their replies I would have to give them as 90% response, 1% results.
I am convinced without any bias that the greed, self interest, lies, and corruption have now saturated our nation from the local all the way to the federal levels and I see nothing short of a total chaotic collapse, or a revolution bringing any return to what was once founded as the USA.
Either of those scenarios are going to have us in a position of severe vulnerability from outside attack.
Yet that is just my opinion, and its only my opinion on affairs of this nation.

My American flag waves from my home every single day of the year,
I dont equate or relate to our current governing body nor have I for the last few decades, but i do hold close the original documents and beliefs on which we were founded, and yes I have them close and read them often so I dont lose my bearings.

Who will rise up?, who will act and perform the needed deeds and sacrifices?
In my opinion, it will be the awakened old, the informed and aware aged, as the revolting majority.
And they will be attacked and erased and made silent, and it will be watched from the sidelines by the conditioned, medicated, entitled, lazy, brain dead, non thinking, non questioning, unmotivated, uneducated, list of excuses and waste of space citizens we share this country with.
So in closing my 2 cents worth,
Dont bash the people who are complaining, they evidently see the troubles, and maybe they could benefit from your guidance, your plan?
My Plan,?
It will no doubt, be viewed from the sidelines.

Gosh aren't we smug!
Me = awake and aware
Everyone else = asleep and stupid
You may have escaped the matrix (or at least be able to see over the edge) but some have just clean toppled over into the conspiracy matrix - you know, the one where everyone and everything is seen as a threat and youtube videos are passed around as gospel - without even engaging a brain cell. Ah but it's alternative so it must be right. Wrong...
In fact some are no better than those they call sheeple - except maybe they are a whole lot unhappier....
I just think we could all do with a bit more humility.




[edit on 8-10-2009 by unicorn1]

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Confident, Sure, Genuine, do not equal smug.

Originally posted by mikerussellus

Originally posted by Emerald The Paradigm
People need to think for themselves for a second, and see that the whole world we live in today is a theatrical play.

There's no victory, and no wars to win.

It's a bunch of rich industries pulling the strings, and doing whatever they feel like it because they are above the law. They bend and shape the laws according to their needs.

The real enemies are sitting there laughing as they make the American population think they are actually fighting a war with a purpose.

I strongly disagree. Why not just give up right now? -sheesh- There will always be a victory as long as there are people willing to fight. To have such a defeatist attitude is. . . . un-American.

Want to end the war? WIN IT! Want to stop being poor? WORK! Want to live in a crime-free environment? MOVE!

The war against terrorists cannot be won. for every terrorist we kill we create at least one more. That person was a father, brother, son, and/or some other form of faily to someone. killing them only makes them a martyr and only breeds more hate. These people hold ideaology that has been SO perverted and twisted that it is view like catholics view baptist and vice versa. example cahtolics pray to saints and the virgin mary, many (not all and keep in mind there are many types of baptist so please dont say "well noone in my church/county/start/in the south or whatever i am speaking generaly) baptists would view this as Idol worship because they aer not GOD. So who is right they both follow more or less the same scripture, but understand it diferently. These people belive they are rightous and fllowing the ways of Allah, or some are just revenge. The only way to stop most of the hate is to get out. One things that needs to be understood is they view things very diferent form other people, even muslims not from the region. It is more cultural then religious but they in order of importance see themselves the most important, then imidiate family then family then clan/tribe/ect, the religous sect (ex: sunni or #e) THEN muslim, and then possibly as a country but not really and not many. Americans and westerners things totally different. Someone who places themselves first above everything else is considered selfish, if it is his/her family first can still be sometimes be considered selfish but people understand, The stuff that is beat into us daily is WE ARE AMERICANS THE GREATEST NATION ON EARTH (i disagree with this fact btw) BE PROUD, HAVE RELIGIOUS FREEDOM (as long as it is some form of christianity) AND YOU ARE ENTITLED TO THE PERSUIT OF HAPPINESS. It is all nearly reversed. and it is these diferances in ideology that make this war mpossible to win w/o killing more innocent people then guilty.

A little history on me is i am a intel analyst for the US military, which would probably tell you that i am more or less forced to learn as much as i can about the people and the way the think and act. I enjoy my job too so i really do take personal interest and use alot of open source information, and classified as well. I read interrogations, and interviews, read books, and read their literature. Although i think this should probably be a seperate post and i should have linked, because i can go on forever on this subject, i have made 20 comments yet so now i am one more closer. lol. I do agree with alot of things in this site, i also know "leaking" a story, that happens to be false, frequently make it harder for the few real ones to be sifted out and discredits those who believe. Back to work now but i do encourage that the best way to fight some thing is to understand it. and i mean undersand really understand, you dont need to agree but to understand is 90% of the fight, when it comes to anything. After you do that you can now fit your facts, information and views to suite the other person/group/buisness or ect.

reply to post by unicorn1


At least i have never committed a crime, never harmed anyone. If that makes me less than the 95% of scum who are out there destroying anyone they want, than fine.

Always i think the world deserves scum, and the people running it in local level and higher level prove it every day.

95% of people = scum, if that ok with you than so what. Who have you trampled on today, in your obsession with ruining life's.

Are you sure it's not the other way around?

Those who get the Swine Flu vaccine and die off will be better for humanity as a whole. It is nature's way of getting rid of stupid and gullible people. There's no one to blame but yourself if you get the vaccine

Those who don't get the Swine Flu vaccine and die off will be better for humanity as a whole. It's nature's way of getting rid of paranoid and delusional people. There's no one to blame but yourself if you don't get the vaccine.

Most of these "gullible" people live in America

Most of these "delusional" people read ATS

The reason America is the main focus of this thread is because what I've said is true.

Are you sure you've considered every possibility?

Everyday, I see very gullible and dumb people that follow everything they hear and see on TV, internet, or main stream news.

Everyday, I see very paranoid and delusional people that follow everything they hear and see on conspiracy sites

Remember, Never Underestimate The Stupidity Of The Masses.

Remember, never underestimate the paranoia of the theorists

PS. This thread is not to say everyone in America is stupid. It's just talking about that big percentage that is. The big percentage that operates like a bunch of mindless robots who do as they are told.

PS. This post is not to say everyone on ATS or conspiracy sites is paranoid. It's just talking about the many that are. The many that operate like a bunch of mindless robots who do as they are persuaded.

PSS I do not endorse any of the views or opinions in my post

[edit on 8-10-2009 by ItIsWhatItIs]

reply to post by ItIsWhatItIs


AMEN!!

Americans are not homogeneously stupid and lazy. I understand pessimism about the direction of the country, but that goes too far.

The average American has no real influence over the grievances cited by the original poster -- even those Americans who vote intelligently and frequently are often times left with nothing but poor choices. This is not a justifiable reason in my opinion to condemn the populace of an entire country. I do, however, understand the frustration.

OP should do the world a favor and go play in traffic
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First I have over 20 years in construction and pipe trades in NYC,and did 2 years in college in ROTC with the army corps of engineers learning how to blow things up(reason I went in).
I saw the second airline hit the south tower WTC2 76 floor (where I have worked)and then later was part of a joint trades(iron worker,pipefitters,mechanics) group who went to ground zero while it was still very hot and full of asbestos dust to help examine the debris and to help with recovery efforts.
I saw no evidence of explosive or thermic demolitions on any beams,columns,pipes or debris I saw and I was there for 15days.
I have worked in the World Trade center towers up in the ceilings and in pipe areas and structural areas for 18 months before 9-11 and saw nothing that would indicate any demolitions.
The NYC fire department regarded the WTC as a disaster just waiting to happen,that is why 2 fire companies were stationed there at all times.
So no there was no planned demolitions of the WTC,buildings built on the cheap and solely so you could have open office spaces and less elevators where hit by 2 (747) planes full of fuel, burned and collapsed when the cheap structure failed,killing several of my friends.
So never underestimate the ability of stupid idiots to see conspiracies where there are none

reply to post by wfaherty


If everything you say is true (which I am willing to accept at face value, for the time being, with the qualifier that I am telling you about it.) then I would genuinely like to know what you believe happened to WTC7.

You seem to be in a fairly unique position to understand several important aspects of what happened on that day, and I'd like to hear your input on what I personally believe to be an inadequately explained event.

Originally posted by WisdomInChains
OP should do the world a favor and go play in traffic
....

Normally I'm not a fan of these types of statements however in this case, I whole heartedly agree and have given you a star !

The OP is nothing more then an American hating, ignorant, TROLL who is only trying to inflame us so he can enjoy his little power trip and collect his little points.

So I agree, I'd like to see a human version of frogger starring the op !

Originally posted by wfaherty
First I have over 20 years in construction and pipe trades in NYC,and did 2 years in college in ROTC with the army corps of engineers learning how to blow things up(reason I went in).
I saw the second airline hit the south tower WTC2 76 floor (where I have worked)and then later was part of a joint trades(iron worker,pipefitters,mechanics) group who went to ground zero while it was still very hot and full of asbestos dust to help examine the debris and to help with recovery efforts.
I saw no evidence of explosive or thermic demolitions on any beams,columns,pipes or debris I saw and I was there for 15days.
I have worked in the World Trade center towers up in the ceilings and in pipe areas and structural areas for 18 months before 9-11 and saw nothing that would indicate any demolitions.
The NYC fire department regarded the WTC as a disaster just waiting to happen,that is why 2 fire companies were stationed there at all times.
So no there was no planned demolitions of the WTC,buildings built on the cheap and solely so you could have open office spaces and less elevators where hit by 2 (747) planes full of fuel, burned and collapsed when the cheap structure failed,killing several of my friends.
So never underestimate the ability of stupid idiots to see conspiracies where there are none

Very well said.
Sorry to hear about your friends.
Hopefully your health is well after being at ground zero so long.

I myself have been in the construction industry for quite a while and it's very easy to tell by your statements that you do indeed have knowledge of your trades so you should be taken seriously by others on this thread.

We both know that the reality of how a building is built and maintained is much different then what is shown on the blue prints,etc..

The unfortunate thing about your post is that now you will be labeled by the conspiracy nuts as a government plant, agent, etc....

Great post though !!!

Emerald ive been reading this forum for quite long now and ive not yet come across any evidence that the official 9/11 story is not true so can you please show me the evidence

Originally posted by Wifiwupding
Emerald ive been reading this forum for quite long now and ive not yet come across any evidence that the official 9/11 story is not true so can you please show me the evidence

He can't because frankly there isn't any. It's just diarrhea of the mouth.

If there was actual PROOF as claimed, people would be in jail and WE THE PEOPLE would be up in arms.