PID - Motivations for the Murder of Paul McCartney

Thanks for the info, faulcon. I really liked that CIA trickery book with illustrations. I have no doubt that the use of doubles was perfected probably long before 1966 (as we've seen with Field Marshall Montgomery).

The thing called "chaos magic" that I found looking into Luciferianism reminded me of the story told in the Beatles Anthology book and video when they describe "Paul" showing them a sketch on paper outlining his ideas for MAGICAL MYSTERY TOUR. It was his drawing of a hub surrounded by spokes. The hub represented riding on the bus and the spokes were scenes of adventures encountered. The sketch would have looked quite similar to the symbol shown on the wiki page for "chaos magic."

There were more than ten hours of footage shot for the film MAGICAL MYSTERY TOUR. All that has ever been released to the public are the 54 minutes that the ten hours were cut down to. A chilling coincidence is that shooting began on September 11.

I've never heard of what happened to the other nine hours of footage. One would think there would be some value to some of the unused scenes featuring Beatles. The film that was released on British telly and now on DVD seems to me of a shocking low quality compared to their other early films (of course the last one, LET IT BE, is one of the worst directed and edited films of all time). Everything about MMT seems really odd.

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It just occurred to me that the poor picture quality (and poor everything) in MMT could have been to distract viewers from noticing the replacement. Viewers are so busy being revolted by the poor quality and attempting to figure out the non-existent plot that they don't notice the replacement thing. The other curious thing is that in retrospect the Beatles including "Paul" say that it was supposed to have been shown in color but was somehow mistakenly shown in black & white and this was partially to blame for the bad reviews, but then they go on to say that BBC didn't broadcast in color in those days. That's kind of confusing. They weren't aware it couldn't be shown in color? Wouldn't they have known BBC didn't air in color? It's very confusing. "Paul" says he meant it to be aired in color and when seen in color it's a much better film. To me, it's pretty bad either way, but I think MMT was created for a specific purpose and is loaded with clues.

In LET IT BE, once again we are distracted from noticing the replacement because of the beard thing.

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Just found out that BBC-1, the channel the film was premiered on (on Boxing Day) was black & white only. After the Beatles protested, it was re-aired on BBC-2 the next day in color. Bumbling around half-baked or was it all very planned that way for some unknown reason. Was MMT intentionally made to seem of poor quality as part of a larger social engineering experiment?

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Isn't it interesting how this thread is being parodied in the new thread...

www.belowtopsecret.com...

Some people will do stuff to ridicule the topic of this thread. Interesting! Is it important to ridicule the topic of this thread? If so, why?

Notice how the thread was started by

Doc Velocity
Disinformation Specialist

Oh, what a giveaway. Some people do not want this topic discussed. They will do pretty much anything to shut people up.

Well folks, since this thread wasn't moving along as expected, I decided to turn OFF all the Dinsinfo Goons placed on my Ignore list.


What I saw was not entirely pleasing. First, a level of immaturity which makes me wonder who has been running the nation's nursery schools for years. Second desperate attempts to derail the topic using arguments and their contrary without qualms, for example in the same posting "everyone disagrees with you so you can't be right... and... because people agree with you doesn't mean that you're right".


There is clearly a barrage of denial on the part of such entities who either have nothing better to do than spend their days polluting other people's investigations or have a vested interest in being denigrating shills for the groups involved.


The persistence of these attacks, the variety of identifiers which somehow have a common pattern of negative intent, and the regularity of their trolling action leave only room for the following conclusions.


1. The subject of this thread, CRIMINAL LIABILITY for the Assassination of James Paul McCartney bothers the culprits;


2. Given the date of his murder, Paul's murder was not by an individual but by an ORGANIZATION which can still be held accountable after the death of its acting members;


3. This organization is still ACTIVE and currently employs enough members to dispatch them to monitor the Internet and operate Disinformation such as in the ATS forum, and to derail threads leading to their culpability;


4. This leaves room only for a few major official Intelligence Agencies which use our tax dollars or tax pounds to monitor us against our own interests and even against our national interests.


5. Qui Bono ? Who stands to benefit? They either are protecting themselves directly as the perpetrators of this murder, or are servant organizations to a Satanic Elite who are the culprits for whom they have operated a cover up.


6. This also means that the groups which Assassinated Paul are still active and perpetrating similar acts. That other people are replaced is obvious. That entirely controlled agents are positioned in many areas of political authority and cultural leadership is evident. Their GUILT IS EXTENSIVE.



Beyond being a stream of tripe worthy of tissue paper, the attacks on this thread - - refusing to comply with its purpose stated several times over - - not only demonstrate the very low level recruitment by the CIA of uncultivated pre-teenage geeks unworthy an employment but also show their inadequate skill level to operate even the most elementary tactics of intellectual argumentation.


I hereby officially request that the CIA, NSA, MI5 or 6 please be forthwith and make an effort to dispatch to this thread ANYTHING less dismal to redress your reputation or stand the consequence of being the laughing stalk of the intelligence community. Do you consider it 'stealth' to use submoronic numbskulls hoping this will dissociate you from being involved?


Either raise the debate or desist. Paul Is Dead. This is a POSTULATE of this thread. Those who deny this: Get Out. If you refuse we know that you are part of the cover up. This thread has placed a large CRIME SCENE ribbon in its first post. Don't cross it unless it is to investigate THE CRIME.

Interesting article in which "Sir Paul" comments "I'm not the same guy" when asked about writing songs with Lennon in the early days...

entertainment.timesonline.co.uk...

That comment could have a couple of different meanings!

Originally posted by Getsmart

3. This organization is still ACTIVE and currently employs enough members to dispatch them to monitor the Internet and operate Disinformation such as in the ATS forum, and to derail threads leading to their culpability;

Some of us have been stalked & harassed on different forums for talking about PID. They are trying to intimidate people into shutting up, & of course, doing their best to discredit people at the same time. Whether they like it or not, people are figuring out something happened to Paul, & we are not going to be silenced.

Faul says in that article

With Wings I did that, didn’t even do three, even though promoters would say, ‘Can you just do Yesterday at the end?’ I’d go, ‘No’. I didn’t wanna crap up my second group by suggesting what was already in people’s minds: ‘Hey, the Beatles were better’.

Paul McCartney: in love and back on the road
entertainment.timesonline.co.uk...

He once said he couldn’t write Paperback Writer now because back then, in 1965, he was (sort of) the young guy in the song. “Yeah, you can’t. You try, you think, ‘Oh, it’d be nice to do another Eleanor Rigby, that was a good idea, taking a character, getting into a mini-play’. But you can’t really.”
entertainment.timesonline.co.uk...

No, of course, he can't write songs like that, b/c he's not PAUL.

“Oh, some of the songs from then were better. As you say, there’s this spurt, you don’t even know that you’re doing it until you look back later and think, ‘Bloody hell’.”

No joke. Paul's songs were much better. This guy is shameless in taking credit for them.

Heather Mills, I’m afraid, is off limits. What is clear, however, is that the McCartney of late 2009 is a world away from the suspicious, troubled figure interviewers described three or four years ago.

Oh, yes, of course. They just have to keep discrediting her, right? B/c she KNOWS.

Often he’ll just muck about on guitar or piano for hours on end, “then I’ll latch on to something, and it’s really bad, but somewhere in the middle, I’ll think, hang on, that’s a chorus, and I’ll start to do something more structured, because what I am is ... a songwriter.”

Uh huh. You just keep telling yourself that. Some of us know who the real genius was.

A couple of guesses as to what Heather Mills knows about her former husband...

1) He's not the original Paul McCartney

or

2) He's into Luciferianism and its secret rituals

or

perhaps both.

Either of the two or both would explain why she said "the world can't handle the truth"
about "Sir Paul" and she feared for her life.

Originally posted by switching yard
A couple of guesses as to what Heather Mills knows about her former husband...

I'm also guessing she knows what happened to Paul. She said the world would be devastated & couldn't handle the truth. She also seemed to be in fear for her life - probably for good reason.

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Some interesting coincidences surrounding John Lennon's death:

John Lennon was assassinated outside the Dakota Apartments in New York on Dec. 8, 1980.

The Dakota became a national historic landmark on December 8, 1976. tps.cr.nps.gov...

13 years to the day after the release of "Magical Mystery Tour" album (December 8, 1967), a man with the initials M.D.C was presented as his assassin. There is a sign in "Magical Mystery Tour" that says "The best way to go is by M&DC."

ludix.com...

The guy who shot him was Mark David Chapman. A guy named Mark Lindsay Chapman was cast to play John Lennon in a 2007 movie.

www.imdb.com...
www.imdb.com...

The Dakota was where "Rosemary's Baby" was filmed in 1968, which was a movie about Satanism and murder.

mind control video...

www.youtube.com...

Originally posted by someotherguy(aka: faulcoandsnowjob)

Some of us have been stalked & harassed on different forums for talking about PID. They are trying to intimidate people into shutting up, & of course, doing their best to discredit people at the same time. Whether they like it or not, people are figuring out something happened to Paul, & we are not going to be silenced.

A few facts:

1. You are from a pid forum. we are from a pia forum. You post your views, we post ours. That's not stalking. Oh the drama.

2. As far as harassment and intimidation. Get a grip. The verbal insults have been prevalent from both sides of the debate. Those who live in glass houses...

3. Like it or not, pid is not catching on. On every forum you've infected with the pid virus, there are a couple of your cronies from pid miss him with you. Nobody else is buying your 'theories'. The members of these other conspiracy forums haven't bought any of it. And every thread you have started has been shut down. It's not pid suppression. They just can't take any more. Why do you think this thread was moved to a little used,out of the way corner of BTS? They didn't want it polluting their main conspiracy board.

4. You are not a 4000 yr. old 9th dimensional cetacean light being. M'Kay?

Originally posted by The Gorn

Originally posted by someotherguy(aka: faulcoandsnowjob)

Some of us have been stalked & harassed on different forums for talking about PID. They are trying to intimidate people into shutting up, & of course, doing their best to discredit people at the same time. Whether they like it or not, people are figuring out something happened to Paul, & we are not going to be silenced.

A few facts:

1. You are from a pid forum. we are from a pia forum. You post your views, we post ours. That's not stalking. Oh the drama.

2. As far as harassment and intimidation. Get a grip. The verbal insults have been prevalent from both sides of the debate. Those who live in glass houses...

3. Like it or not, pid is not catching on. On every forum you've infected with the pid virus, there are a couple of your cronies from pid miss him with you. Nobody else is buying your 'theories'. The members of these other conspiracy forums haven't bought any of it. And every thread you have started has been shut down. It's not pid suppression. They just can't take any more. Why do you think this thread was moved to a little used,out of the way corner of BTS? They didn't want it polluting their main conspiracy board.

4. You are not a 4000 yr. old 9th dimensional cetacean light being. M'Kay?

Good points. I would add that williamcampbell (william) and orbandsceptre27 (ramram131) and one other I can't remember from PID Miss Him joined MFH to harass us. We aren't whining about it. They have not been banned and are still members.

As far as other forums like BTS, ATS, Icke and so forth, they are not PID or PIA forums and open to all. PIA people have as much right to be there as PID people.

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I'm afraid I've lost interest in this and have decided to spend more time with my loved one. It's the least I can do seeing as she is prepared to be with a kook like me.

Good luck all, play nice, try not to allow homophobia and malice to sink in and be prepared to at least entertain opposing points of view,for they help us question ourselves and will ultimately make us better people.

Originally posted by someotherguy(aka: faulcoandsnowjob)
people are figuring out something happened to Paul

Originally posted by aorAki
I'm afraid I've lost interest in this

PID is dead.

The Gorn, Edmond Dantes, and Dakudo are all from a forum called Macca's Fun House. They have stalked and harassed people for expressing their views on PID. They have engaged in personal attacks in an effort to intimidate people from posting about PID. They have managed to dissuade many people from discussing this subject. Ad hominem attacks are not supposed to be tolerated on ATS/BTS. This thread needs more attentive moderation so that contributors are not harassed.

reply to post by someotherguy


Rebutting your arguments is not stalking.

We have no way to stop you from posting whatever you wish.

Where we are from is not relevant. Everybody's from somewhere.

Stop blaming us for your theories not being taken seriously.

Originally posted by someotherguy
The Gorn, Edmond Dantes, and Dakudo are all from a forum called Macca's Fun House. They have stalked and harassed people for expressing their views on PID. They have engaged in personal attacks in an effort to intimidate people from posting about PID. They have managed to dissuade many people from discussing this subject. Ad hominem attacks are not supposed to be tolerated on ATS/BTS. This thread needs more attentive moderation so that contributors are not harassed.

"Stalked and harrassed"? LOL.

I thought you had us on ignore? How can we "stalk and harrass" you if you can't read our posts?



This is a public board. It is not a PID board. We are entitled to rebut your nasty, negative, hate-fuelled and groundless claims that the Paul McCartney we know today is an imposter.

You are trying to suppress the TRUTH.

Shame on you.

Paul is alive.













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Originally posted by someotherguy
The Gorn, Edmond Dantes, and Dakudo are all from a forum called Macca's Fun House. They have stalked and harassed people for expressing their views on PID. They have engaged in personal attacks in an effort to intimidate people from posting about PID. They have managed to dissuade many people from discussing this subject. Ad hominem attacks are not supposed to be tolerated on ATS/BTS. This thread needs more attentive moderation so that contributors are not harassed.

This is not off topic since I am responding to a post.

Again, we have as much right to be here as you do. We have as much right to express our views as you do. People from PID Miss Him have joined MFH to express their views. We let them do so, and we have not banned them. We even offer links to PID sites. It is you and the other pidders that try to suppress the PIA point of view. And you are on no moral high ground when it comes to personal attacks and intimidation.

What part of this don't you understand? From Getsmart's very first post on this thread:

This thread is ONLY FOR CONVINCED PIDers who by cross-checking evidence, through testimonials or musicology, or even by virtue of their own reliable deep seated intuition, realize that the person posing as Sir Paul McCartney is an impostor.

The purpose of posting here should ONLY be to discuss possible motivations for this crime, as any proper investigation must address the fundamental issue:


For what motive ?

Qui bono ? *

This was stated at the very beginning of the thread. If you don't understand, then let me explain. This thread is not for discussing *whether* Paul was replaced or killed, it is a basic assumption of the thread. We are here to discuss theories about what happened to him. If you do understand, then we can only assume that you have no respect for the intent and purpose of this thread, and that your only aim is to disrupt and derail it.