PID - Motivations for the Murder of Paul McCartney

reply to post by someotherguy

It looks like he wanted to let the cat out of the bag way sooner than Oliver Stone. It is extremely dangerous to live ahead of your time, for you might die before your time has come.

When we consider that so many eyewitnesses on the grassy knoll at Dealey Plaza in Dallas met with a suspect untimely death, what would have stopped them from killing such a famous musician ? Well, how about the ensuing investigation ? Hence just REPLACE him with a doppelganger, and the trick is done ! Thus Sir Faul is not only aiding and abetting murderous criminals, he is an accomplice of those who assassinated JFK. Not bad for a wannabe celebrity lookalike.

GS

I have read the entire thread over the last 7 days, and I want to thank you all. Getsmart, Switching Yard, Someotherguy, faulconsnowjob, and others, great stuff.

I have done an analysis of sorts on the Beatles music by counting the number of chords for each original Beatles song. My observation was that “She Loves You” and “I Want to Hold Your Hand” are songs that are completely unique and have something special even today, and although called “bubble-gum” by George Martin, are fairly complicated and can be difficult to play (and everyone is too scared to cover early Beatles songs—because the Beatles did them best). The number of chords is definitely not related to quality, many #1’s often being simpler than average, but it is a concrete measure that reveal some aspects of composition.

I used the UltimateGuitar.com website, choosing the transcription version with the most 5 star ratings. I used a complete list of Beatles’ songs using the UK release date (the USA lagged the UK in the early years) and a list on Wikipedia “List_of_songs_recorded_by_the_Beatles” which attributes primary and secondary authorship as well as the singer/singer(s) of the song. This has some error as Nowhere Man (Rubber Soul) is shown as being sung by John Lennon, although watching the 1966 Munich concert, John, Paul and George are loving singing it together (the verses do only have John singing). Lennon-McCartney songs written for other artists were excluded.

Overall for 184 songs, I counted an average of 7.34 chords per song. The myth of 3 or 4-chord Beatles songs is strongly dismissed. It is very possible that the transcriptions, which are supplied by internet users, have errors, but these errors are likely to be randomly distributed among songs. I found a reference to a professional study on the internet (Harry Klassen and Piet Schreuders: KS (1977)), and they reported a mean of 8.24 chords per song for 46 songs in the early period up to 1964 (only original Beatles songs). My numbers were 7.28 chords per song up to end of 1964, a difference with KS of one chord per song. Overall, KS found 9 chords per song for the entire Beatles catalog while I found 7.34, so that chords on the later Beatles songs may be slightly more uncounted on UltimateGuitar as compared to KS. This makes sense to me, as who is going to bother to put much effort into the rubbish songs and song fragments that occur on the later Beatle albums, particularly the White album. (George Martin has stated that the White Album should NOT have been a DOUBLE album – but the doubles won). As an example, the article stated that “You Never Give Me Your Money” from Abbey Road had the most chords (20+) whereas I got 12, still among the highest in my list. I also excluded inversions, which relate to a changed order from high to low, as these still reflect the same underlying notes, and are often more important for piano, rather than guitar (notice how the piano comes to the fore after 1966).


Here is my little contribution to this group: Beatle Original Song Output (singles are included but only album titles listed apart from “Love Me Do”).


YEAR______ALBUM_______#SONGS____AVG_#_CHORDS___AVG_#_SINGERS
1962 Love Me Do____________1_______4.00__________2.00
1963 PleasePleaseMe/With___21_______7.24__________1.57
1964 HDNight/For Sale______24_______7.46__________1.33
1965 Help!/Rubber Soul_____30________7.27__________1.31
1966 Revolver______________16________5.88__________1.00
1967 Sgt.P LHCB/MMT_______23_______7.26__________1.04
1968 “White album”________32_______7.78___________1.03
1969 Abbey Road___________25_______8.36__________1.24
1970 Let It Be_____________12_______6.42__________1.33
TOTAL___________________185_______7.34__________1.23


Three noticeable things stand out. First, Revolver jumps out as the least complicated of any Beatles album, by far (1962’s Love Me Do is just one song). Second, the harmonies come to a grinding halt with, again, Revolver, and only reappear on Abbey Road. Third, 1966 is the least productive year.

George Martin in a 1971 interview said that Rubber Soul was “the last of the non-fabricated albums” meaning that Revolver was the first fabricated album. He also said that Strawberry Fields/Penny Lane (1967) was “when the two of them [John and Paul] became very separated in my mind”, talking about November of 1966 when SF, When I’m 64, and PL was recorded. Notice that George Martin really only likes Beatles songs released after 1966 (with “Tomorrow Never Knows” from Revolver and anything he put strings on being exceptions).

I have always been baffled over the names of the albums Rubber Soul and particularly Revolver. Revolver has the common usage, particularly in western movies, of a gun (anti-love). Also I believe Revolver was a relatively weak Beatles album with only “Eleanor Rigby”, and “Here, There, and Everywhere” making great song lists. It also includes the only notable political song ever done by the Beatles: “Taxman”.

So what explains the simplified (and, perhaps for the Beatles, ordinary) music on Revolver? Also, the lack of joint work. I think that the Beatles machine was getting too much for the original PM. There is a 1964 David Frost interview with PM (youtube), which clearly shows the sweetness and gentleness so lacking in Faul, where PM is asked about his future. He talks about “doing another movie”, "then retire, write songs for other people".

This makes the lack of production in 1966 interesting. Some of the lower production may be due to Rubber Soul coming out late 1965 (transfer 6 songs from 1965 to 1966, and get 24, 24, 22, 23 for 1963-1967). Perhaps, some of their better songs were being held back (so they could get paid for them in a new record deal).

The decline in production wasn’t due to more touring commitments, as 1966 was a typical year. They were a hard working band – the number of concert dates right up until 1966 is as much as any band ever did, and touring was relentless (you can check every concert date on Wikipedia).

Perhaps Paul was busy writing songs for other people. The Wikipedia page “Lennon-McCartney” lists zero songs for 1966 given to other artists, and zero unreleased songs for 1966. However, there are two other outputs from 1966: Peter [Asher, brother of Jane] & Gordon’s “Woman” Paul is credited as “Bernard Webb” (it sounds like a PM song), and McCartney is listed as composing most of the music soundtrack for the 1966 film “The Family Way” by the George Martin Orchestra. This is 25 minutes of music, soundtrack released January 1967. Movie: 7.6 out of 10 imdb.com. The song that goes “….Everyone knows it’s Windy!” (Windy) by the Associations is on the trailer. The soundtrack, which is on youtube, is completely classical music, but you can hear echoes of Penny Lane in the first movement. Strangely, it was originally attributed to George Martin (he may well be one of the ghost writers for the music of subsequent Beatles songs, knowing all their tricks.)

On December 18, 1966 a news article states that PM attended the film premier with Jane Asher who starred in the film (no pictures), and he sounds like Faul, talking about “if I you have the gift you should write music, blah, blah, blah,” whereas in his David Frost interview PM had been more than humble, talking about his songs as rubbish.

In any case, my little study demonstrates that 1966 was atypical due to the lack of vocal harmonies, complex chord arrangements, and amount of production. The vocal harmonies didn’t come back until 1969. Was revolver was a gun to the original Beatles heads to keep producing, and they seem to have run out of songs or were on strike? Also, was there a revolving door of new talent introduced on this album as a test run before the elimination of the original Beatles? It seems clear that Paul wanted out, and he got his wish.

[Aside, the UK album titles are revealing. First they wanted to be loved and pleased, then later the audience are “with” them. Then the Beatles are working like crazy, and later that year the Beatles are “for sale” (yikes, the buyers may have only been interested in the brand, not the employees!). Then they are asking for HELP! This leads to (a) rubber soul and then a revolver (either a gun or a door?). After that comes an entirely new band run by (Billy) Sargant Pepper and a magical mystery tour designed to confuse. Then there is no title (blank like many of those songs), then an album named after their studio and we must Let it Be (All Things Must Pass would have been a better title, George wanting out which he got in 1970).]


To get back on thread topic, what are the motivations for murder of PM? I believe it wasn’t just about the money, it was about the drug experiment, which ultimately failed (Bands like Rush in the 1970s had to hide their “___” use).

Some possible facts from a local psychic whom I asked a few questions. She says to not expect everything to be 100% correct, but she is fairly confident of the dates:

PM never took “___” and, at most, smoked a bit of weed. He never did “___”, and would not!
The car crash is a cover story, as PM never had a fatal car crash.
He died in captivity from a combination of factors so that a unique cause of death is difficult to determine, starvation may be as accurate as anything. Masons, CIA, Royal Family (not the MIs), non-humans were all involved. The location was some sort of non-human place/vessel.

Original Beatle Death Dates:

Beatle____DEATH__________MURDERED?_____LAST PUBLIC APPEARANCE
Paul______October, 1966_______Yes__________September, 1966
John______August, 1967_______Yes__________September, 1966
George____October, 1970______Yes__________September, 1970
Ringo_____December 1969__Not Really_______November, 1968

Comments: Paul and John appear to be consistent with earlier postings on the group, although where John was for almost a year (studio?) would be a mystery. Ringo, no idea, but something ambiguous in his death. George seems the least likely to be a double (Normal Mailer was quoted after 1980 saying that George is the only one that can sort out Beatle history as Faul “rewrote history constantly” and Ringo “just doesn’t know”) but he certainly did not remain the silent one. Perhaps Feorge’s role was to bring some credibility to the scam as the Fohns were nutty and without humor, and Faul an egotistical a-hole that turned off many. George seems to have disappeared before the release of All Things Must Pass (recorded 26 May – 10 October 1970). Perhaps the Feorge Harrison venture was getting all the musical help at that point.
I remember the Mariharishi (who had been wronged by Fohn) was asked about the Beatles, and he described them as Angels and talked about how the NYC crime rate went to zero when they played Ed Sullivan. What this thread has taught me: the evil exists.
RIP PJRG

Bill and Ted's (Paul and John's) Bogus Journey, wikipedia:


The film opens in the utopian future that results from the music of Bill (Alex Winter) and Ted (Keanu Reeves). Chuck De Nomolos (Joss Ackland), who detests this society, steals one of the time-traveling phone booths with the aid of two robots fashioned after Bill and Ted, and travels to the late 20th century, with the intent to prevent Bill and Ted from winning the San Dimas Battle of the Bands. Rufus (George Carlin) attempts to stop De Nomolos but becomes lost in the circuits of time.

In the present, Wyld Stallyns is preparing for the contest; though Bill and Ted's current fiancées and former 15th-century princesses Elizabeth (Annette Azcuy) and Joanna (Sarah Trigger) have become skilled musicians, Bill and Ted are still inept. Despite this, the organizer Ms. Wardroe (Pam Grier) assures them a slot in the contest as the final act. Bill's stepmother, Missy (Amy Stock-Poynton), divorces his father, in favor of Ted's, who still threatens sending Ted to military school, should they fail the Battle of the Bands. De Nomolos arrives and has the robots replace Bill and Ted, killing them by throwing the two over the side of a cliff at Vasquez Rocks. The robots behave rudely to the princesses and work to ruin the duo's fame.

Bill and Ted's souls are met by Death (William Sadler) who challenges them in a game for their souls. Bill and Ted escape after giving Death a "melvin". They attempt to alert their families but their ethereal forms prove difficult, and at one point, are cast down into Hell at a séance held by Missy. In Hell, they are tormented by Satan (voiced by Frank Welker), made to face their own fears, and realize their only escape is to take Death's offer. Taken to Death's chambers, the spirit gives them the option of what game to play. Bill and Ted, to Death's dismay, select modern games like Battleship, Clue, and Twister, easily beating Death. Death admits defeat and willingly becomes their servant. Bill and Ted recognize they need to locate the smartest person in the universe to help build robots to counter De Nomolos' evil robots. Death escorts the two to Heaven, and with God's help, are directed to an alien named Station who has the ability to split into two identical twins, and readily offers to help Bill and Ted.

Death brings them back to the mortal world, where it is the night of the Battle of the Bands. Bill and Ted take Station to a hardware store, and then race in their van back to the concert while Station constructs good robots. Just as the evil robots take the stage, Bill and Ted arrive, and Station's robots easily defeat the evil ones. De Nomolos appears in the time machine, ready to defeat Bill and Ted himself, and overrides the broadcasting equipment to send the video footage of this to everyone on the planet. The two recognize they can later go back in time to arrange events for De Nomolos to be trapped in the present, aided by Death and Station; though De Nomolos is able to do the same, Bill and Ted gain the upper hand, and De Nomolos is taken away by the police. Ms. Wardroe reveals herself to be a disguised Rufus, having assured Bill and Ted's spot in the concert, and urges them to play.

As Bill and Ted reunite with their fiancées, they realize they are terrible musicians, and the four use the time machine; though they return immediately, "an intense 16 months of guitar training plus a two week honeymoon" have passed for them, they have married the princesses and each is raising a young infant. They begin to perform a stunning rock ballad, joined by Death, Station, and the good robots. The worldwide broadcast set by De Nomolos continues, and Wyld Stallyns' music is played across the globe, creating harmony. During the end credits, fictional newspaper and magazine articles describe the worldwide impact of the Stallyns' music towards the Utopian future.

Hi, my names Stephen, i live in Liverpool and i am Jamie's son, my dad died in November 1966 eight months before i was born, he didn't even know of my existence. Mum married and was carrying me on her wedding day. I came to know the man she married as dad, i was six years old when mum told me Jamie was my father, she died less than a year later, one minute she was there the next she was gone, i suspect foul play, the local GP who treated her is now a big cheese with the bma, Ive wondered if his rise to the top of the medical profession was a reward for his services. I met John, George and Ringo briefly and remember saying to john you'll never get away with it, he looked at me smiled and said we already have, he was right it was 1973 now and they had gotten away with it, i said to them as they were walking away "was it God or the meanies who killed Jamie", john and Ringo never said anything but as i walked after them George turned around held his finger up and said " we have our suspicions ". So it was just before my seventh birthday and id lost both my parents. Luckily the man mum married was a nice kind man he brought me up as his son and we didn't once talk about any of this. i don't even know if he knew that i wasn't his son and after mums death i didn't talk about it as everyone in the know knew Let it Be was the order of the day. Who was i to go against there wishes. I came to this site trying to find were Jamie is buried, Even though i never met my biological father i would still like to visit his resting place. It gets me down when i see an interview with the man who replaced him and he claims to have written songs i know he had nothing to do with. Mum was only two months pregnant when Jamie died, i like to think they would of married if he would of lived. A few people know my story but not many, until the internet you couldn't even say Paul's dead, people would think you were crazy, I'm glad its all coming out. I don't hate Faul Ive got no space in my heart for hate, Love Ste

a reply to: pauljameson

I have been researching music industry and this is what I have discovered.

Anyone with a talent is used in the beginning, but only the ones who sign a contract to become famous and rich
become a prisoner and they cannot escape the contract.
What they sign is that they will work until they die. For controllers, that means that who ever decides to stop
working, the reason is not important, has to die because they have signed the contract.
We have examples of that today, Whitney Houston tried to get back to work, but she has lost her voice and she had to go.
Amy Winehouse decided she doesn't want to perform any longer, she had to go. MJ was killed for exposing the industry.
The problem is that those artists signed those contracts.
The Beatles story is interesting because we can see what happens to the ones deciding to stop working. Pete Best said that he was asked to spend the night with Brian Epstein, and after he refused, he was sacked. He definitely didn't sign any contract. Stu left the group and died. Maybe he did sign the contract.
The rest of the Beatles were doing just fine until they started to speak against the war and to reveal stuff about pedophilia and human sacrifice. Let's not forget that they were surrounded with homosexuals and pedophiles.
At the time, they could choose to kill them in a plane crash and finish that way their contracts, or to secretly kill them and use replacements so that they can still use their fame to further their satanistic agenda.

I compared live recordings before 1966 and after, what they did was to change the pitch of official recordings, voices do not match, and how far they will go is the video of the song "We can work it out". You can clearly see in the video that they changed Paul's face when he looks directly into the camera. The color of his face is different.

Why are controllers doing this stuff? Well, they are psychopaths and this is their game. They always leave clues to see who is awake and who is still under the spell. They lie to us all the time. Recently people started discovering that we do not live on a ball, that there is no cosmos and aliens. If we live on a flat plane, that means they are hiding land from us.

The original Beatles are not with us since 1966, I am not sure if they used doubles or clones, I mean, they have technology we do not know much about. Just look at the video of 9/11 where collapsed buildings disappeared into thin air. There was no debris, only dust.

Beatles training in Hamburg was no coincidence. Performing in a bar with prostitutes and homosexuals was planned. They gave them drugs and it is known that too many drugs influences your sexuality. Also, "Beatles for sale" actually means you can pay to spend a night with them. That is a code for rich homosexuals. The reason Pete Best was out of the picture is because he refused to spend the night with Brian Epstein. Not sure about Stu.

The video "Day by day" from 1963 is very telling. At 2.05 Paul is talking to someone behind John, he is looking at the wall and saying "Hello". It reminds me of a video of Britney, she did the same thing during an interview.

That is a sign of MK Ultra programming. Victims of MK Ultra have multiple personalities and certain trigger words to turn another personality on. In the beginning, Paul is smiling and normally talking, and then suddenly he changes. MK Ultra victims can also change color of their eyes and the way their face looks. I do not think they can change the size of their shoes.

It would make sense that Paul, while in Hamburg was under MK Ultra programming where they use drugs and rape to make a person have multiple personalities and also he had trauma in childhood.
That would explain why he lived in a house of Jane's parents, her father probably knew. He needed constant supervision.

Because of his looks, he was probably abused a lot by rich homosexuals. The way they do it with famous entertainers who are for sale is that all you need is a trigger word from his handler. For example, Marilyn Monroe was a presidential model.

I presume that in 1966 his program started to break down. Paul didn't want to continue, for example he didn't want to fix his tooth for months and didn't care how he looked on TV, so he had to be sacrificed.

For me is enough to see that they purposely tempered with his pictures and video and audio recordings prior to 1966, to realize that today's Faul is not Paul.

a reply to: Getsmart

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