Largest Sun Spot EVER found Today 7/7/09 - 60 to 80 times size of Earth!

reply to post by brokenheadphonez


I respect your opinion. You have been one of the more helpful people on here these last few days. I haven't really had a chance to read the entire 28 pages of this thread. What do you think about this thread? Should it be changed because it gives people(like myself) the wrong idea about whats really going on?

The claims were "Major Solar Storm", "Impacting Earth", "CMEs".
Not sunspots.

I haven't been keeping up too much on the circles, did any of them depict sunspots rather than a "major" event? (never mind there was no major event)

The claims were not nessecarily exactly what the CC was depicting.

It seemed to point towards a solar/magnetic event on the 7th of July.

There is no denying that there was such an event on that day. There was a class c flare on the 7th, there was a sunspot.

After a period of months of no activity.

There is correlation right there.

There is only correlation if you buy the translation from a guy that already fear-mongers about solar storms. Why do you take his translation at face value? Really now.. the slightly curving arc of this CC *proves* without a shadow of a doubt in your mind, that some alien (or incredibly obtuse terran) mind decided that a depiction of a magnetic field would "inform" of us a sunspot and flare? Both of which are incredibly common events in the grand scheme of things. NOTHING irregular occurred.

You are accepting with no proof whatsoever, that not only this CC was "not made by man," but also that one guys hasty "translation" was spot on, AND it only nebulously pertained to a sunspot and flare that had no impact on our planet at all?

You honestly can't see where the many reaches towards bad logic makes many people just shake their head in disbelief? Wow..

read that already

reply to post by fleabit


It doesn't really matter who, or what made the prediction. There was a solar event on the 7th, after months of no activity.

Could you have predicted that? Tell me, who could've.?

Originally posted by Point of No Return
reply to post by fleabit

 

It doesn't really matter who, or what made the prediction. There was a solar event on the 7th, after months of no activity.

Could you have predicted that? Tell me, who could've.?

I will tell you of at least on person that could do that. The guy that said that is what the crop circle meant.

reply to post by grapesofraft


Really? And you don't find that remarkable.

How do you suppose he was able to pick this date?

Originally posted by Point of No Return
reply to post by grapesofraft

 

Really? And you don't find that remarkable.

How do you suppose he was able to pick this date?

He probably pulled it out of his ass, where he got the rest of the information. Nothing really happened on July 7th so really he could have picked any date. First it was supposed to be a solar storm, but when that didnt happen you all decided that a flipping sunspot was a big deal. I suppose if there wasnt a sunspot you would have all said you feel a little hotter that day then you did before then. Whatever you guys need to tell yourself to keep believing a bunch of BS.

[edit on 8-7-2009 by grapesofraft]

reply to post by grapesofraft


You just can't see it. There was no solar activity for months. Noone could have known that on the 7th of July there would be a sunspot and a class c solar flare.

Yet a solar/magnetic event was predicted for that day.

How do you explain this?

There were class B flares on the 4th and 5th. As far as I know there were only class A yesterday, but I could have missed something.

Even a class C solar flare from the Sun is a non-event. That would be like making a crop circle that said I was going to take a nice crap on July 7th after I had been constipated for a couple of weeks. Wouldnt alien beings capable of traveling the universe have something better to do with their time then tell us about some trivial event that has happened on the Sun for Billions of years.


[edit on 8-7-2009 by grapesofraft]

Originally posted by Point of No Return
reply to post by fleabit

 

It doesn't really matter who, or what made the prediction.

What prediction?? Are you referring to ONE of the multiple interpretations/opinions of what these CC's mean?
Have you not looked at what some of the other "contributors" on CCC.com have interpreted from these CC's?

Have a look, but remember their disclaimer:

Disclaimer. Given the wide variety of interpretations of any given Crop formation, please note that the opinions published by the individual contributors to this site do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the Crop Circle Connector.

www.cropcircleconnector.com...

www.cropcircleconnector.com...

www.cropcircleconnector.com...

^^^ Somewhere near the bottom of the page on that last link, was another completely different interpretation/opinion (kinda cute & creative, maybe my favorite):

On May 30 this year 55 pilot whales beached themselves on the shores of Cape Town, South Africa. See story: pilot-whales-shot-near-cape-town-rescuers-couldnt-save-them . On May 29 the “jellyfish” crop formation appeared at Waylands Smithy, perhaps relating to the warming of and pollution in the oceans, which gives rise to an unhealthy overabundance of jellyfish, and perhaps an omen about the whales beaching themselves just one day later. At least one respected animal communicator was told by the whales that they beached themselves due to getting sick from the pollution in the oceans. (See quote below.) Then on June 2, the formation at Milk Hill appeared, which to me resembles a group of whales swimming in circles, in an abstract sort of way. This seemed to me to be a fitting tribute and honouring of our whale friends’ extraordinary “group” passing. It is hard to see the details of the formation from the photographs, but if you look at the diagrams, you can see the details very clearly, which to me fairly accurately reflect the image of many whales, with their eyes, mouths and fins, as they all swim in circles, one inside another. One for all and all for one. Information and message from the beached whales, as communicated by Anna Breytenbach (www.animalspirit.org): “The majority of the whales were sick and dying… as a result of swimming in some sort of chemical effluent in the ocean, to the northwest of Cape waters. This invisible toxic stream affected them internally in such a way as to cause slow die-off. With that their immune systems also crashed, making them very susceptible to and ill from parasitic infections. A few of them were physically fine, having withstood this - but they weren’t going to leave their family members. So they swam ashore with the dying ones. One for all. They beached because they wanted to die. They chose the Cape beach so as not to have to navigate the stormy, rough seas around Cape Point in their weakened state, and because they want humans to witness (the) whales’ dying. On the bigger/planetary level too. They said “the Mother” (the ocean) is being poisoned, and so are they. It’s time humans woke up to this and witnessed the effects. They predicted that there will be more strandings in the next moon cycle (which I found interesting given that the International Whaling Commission sits again in the last week of June apparently.)

PS: You may notice that the pilot whales have a slight resemblance to dolphins in some aspects, and it is very interesting to note that the “whales” depicted in the Milk Hill formation of June 2, milkhill2009 , resemble a sort of a cross between a dolphin and a whale.

Submitted with love and respect for the whales

Brad Laughlin

reply to post by grapesofraft

Nothing really happened on July 7th so really he could have picked any date.

Yes something did happen on the 7th, from the 4th to the 7th.

However, one thing is clear: the new solar max does appear to be intensifying after a long period of quiescence, and the sudden emergence of the huge sunspot did indeed startle solar scientists.

[edit on 8-7-2009 by Point of No Return]

No you are completely missing the point. IF solar activity was predicted for that day it would of just appeared out of the blue, not started days before said date, not only that in the week before there were smaller events you know the numbers leading up to 1024, 1021 was around in june as were others it is only a small leap to say 1024 will show up soon but it did not show up on the 7th, yes it was there but it was nothing new by that stage.
And again this leads me to say not one single thing about this thread is reliable, HOAX it now, this is affecting google searches, 11 year old kids might be putting this in their homework. At the very least can a Mod explain why this wont be moved when everything in it is wrong. Show some spirit guys.

reply to post by Point of No Return


Yeah a couple of solar flares happened on the Sun, is that really something new? Have there never been SMALL solar flares on the Sun before July 4th?

reply to post by pazcat


Your logic is full of fallacies. If the kid used ATS as a reference for homework, they deserve an F.

I'd rather kids think about crop circles and the SUN than ... the crap spewed out by pop culture these days, and for the record - I'm a 20 something myself..

Anyways, when I was in grade school, I was skipping class and hiding out in the library, until it got to a point where I realized that the education system was not set up to "educate" me, rather the opposite..

reply to post by fleabit


There was no Class C flare on the 7th.

For a short time, the strength moved into the B-class range, but if anything the activity on the 7th was DOWN.

Here's the graph for the last two days:

(this image will update every 5 minutes, so eventually the 7th won't be visible anymore)

On the 8th
X-ray Solar Flares
6-hr max: A3 2330 UT Jul08
24-hr: B3 0530 UT Jul08

On the 7th:
X-ray Solar Flares
6-hr max: B1 2205 UT Jul07
24-hr: B1 2205 UT Jul07

On July 6th:
X-ray Solar Flares
6-hr max: A3 2035 UT Jul06
24-hr: B8 1705 UT Jul06

On the 5th:
X-ray Solar Flares
6-hr max: A6 1745 UT Jul05
24-hr: C1 0710 UT Jul05

On the 3rd:
X-ray Solar Flares
6-hr max: A9 2305 UT Jul03
24-hr: A9 2305 UT Jul03

Nothing out of the ordinary happened on the 7th. As for predictions, there's some kind of logic going around here that these things are somehow out of the ordinary, BUT: sunspot 1024 formed on the 3rd, and it followed the formation of the unnumbered sunspot (short lived) on June 30th, which followed on the heels of 1023, on June 22nd which formed while sunspot 1022 was still active...

The longest period we've gone without sunspot activity since the first of June 2009 has been FOUR DAYS.

Don't believe me? Go to any of the spaceweather links I've posted and check their archive.

In that climate, is it really so hard to "predict" anything? Especialy when you're taking an event that happened THREE DAYS BEFORE and saying it happened on the day you've predicted?



[edit on 8-7-2009 by vox2442]

Originally posted by Point of No Return
reply to post by grapesofraft

 

Really? And you don't find that remarkable.

How do you suppose he was able to pick this date?

Actually the sun's has a cycle of time periods when it does these things. It is actually a bit behind schedule and was pretty quiet at first. As such, the odds got higher and higher every day.

Furthermore, the sun had already started up again, so the odds are actually pretty high that someone could be right about a sun spot on such a date.

However, that is not even what the OP stated about the crop circle to begin with. The OP said that the crop circle was showing the magnetic field of the earth and was a warning that the earth would be in danger on that day. No such thing happened, nor was it even close to that.

That the OP can't be honest about it, and is continuing on with it has pretty much destroyed any credibility with me. I'm putting them in my chicken little club.

Originally posted by grapesofraft
There were class B flares on the 4th and 5th. As far as I know there were only class A yesterday, but I could have missed something.

Even a class C solar flare from the Sun is a non-event. That would be like making a crop circle that said I was going to take a nice crap on July 7th after I had been constipated for a couple of weeks. Wouldnt alien beings capable of traveling the universe have something better to do with their time then tell us about some trivial event that has happened on the Sun for Billions of years.


[edit on 8-7-2009 by grapesofraft]

A non event? It sure was for months, meaning they didn't happen for months.

Now they were picking up again in a predited timeframe.

You still haven't explained how they got the date right.

I don't know if it are aliens, that's your assumption about me.

I think there might be some consciousness trying to get us to pay attention.

I think it's just the beginning. There's stuff you clearly don't think about, well I do.

Originally posted by grapesofraft
reply to post by Point of No Return

 

Yeah a couple of solar flares happened on the Sun, is that really something new?

Of course not. I submitted/provided photographic evidence of this back on page 21:

www.abovetopsecret.com...

reply to post by brokenheadphonez


You miss my point, type in to google 'largest sunspot in history' the 3rd option is linked to ATS, now a young kid wouldnt be looking at ATS they would take the first few google options read the first part, copy/paste, job done, kids are lazy and if just one person googles this and comes to this laughable thread the world is just a fraction dimmer for doing so.
That is why it needs to be stopped right now.

Not to mention Solar cycle 24 has hardly been dorment.





[edit on 8-7-2009 by pazcat]

Originally posted by Point of No Return

Originally posted by grapesofraft
There were class B flares on the 4th and 5th. As far as I know there were only class A yesterday, but I could have missed something.

Even a class C solar flare from the Sun is a non-event. That would be like making a crop circle that said I was going to take a nice crap on July 7th after I had been constipated for a couple of weeks. Wouldnt alien beings capable of traveling the universe have something better to do with their time then tell us about some trivial event that has happened on the Sun for Billions of years.


[edit on 8-7-2009 by grapesofraft]

A non event? It sure was for months, meaning they didn't happen for months.

Now they were picking up again in a predited timeframe.

You still haven't explained how they got the date right.

I don't know if it are aliens, that's your assumption about me.

I think there might be some consciousness trying to get us to pay attention.

I think it's just the beginning. There's stuff you clearly don't think about, well I do.

Again, they didn't get the date right and the didn't predict what happened. the Original prediction was that the earths magnetic field would suffer somekind of weird things, not an actual sunflare.

A sunflare happened on the date, had no real effect on the magnetic field - which the crop circle was about.

Reminds me of the movie Sgt Bilko where they blow up the wrong target and get credit for it anyway. Sorry, I'm not some military boob in a comedy.