What I see in the Racial/collective unconscious...

Originally posted by Death_Kron

Hello RokNinja,

It isn't DragonriderGal's concepts that I have a problem with, I've told her before that I'm not as closed minded as she believes and I have also mentioned that I am interested in the possibility of a Collective Unconscious that is being access globally without us being aware of it.

It's the mythical creatures and the lack of being able to provide any substance to what she says that bothers me.

And again, just what 'should' an alien look like???

Some of the things she has come out with I find absolutely ridiculous but at the end of the day its a free board I suppose.

I'm doing what she is doing, expressing my opinion.

Yes it is a free board and as always you are entirely welcome to express your OPINION, but that is all it is, your opinion. So you have doubts, that is fine. But often you attempt to discredit ME versus the information. Now that isn't nice, eh?

That is more like NWO-trained 'troll' behavior which attempts to disqualify the individual if attacking the information fails. Not saying you are, but you do make me wonder.

[edit on 6-10-2009 by DragonriderGal]

Originally posted by Death_Kron

He couldn't out maneuver me over on 'violent encounter with an alien being' which for some reason he seemed to feel was his personal mission to criticize and belittle anyone who dared say they believed DanT might have actually had that encounter, and now that that thread has dropped off, I guess he was getting bored so he wandered over here. But he won't out maneuver me here either

Us people in the real world have something called common sense, ever heard of it?

And with regards to your little quip about being out maneuvered I'm pretty sure it was you who stopped posting in the previous thread not me?

After all the replies I got backing my case and tearing down yours.

Man, that is a fantasy world you live in! One or two people post who you probably begged to come over and stick up for your side and all of a sudden you had all these 'replies' backing your case and tearing mine down. *shakes head* All I can say is WOW.

[edit on 6-10-2009 by DragonriderGal]

reply to post by xds777


Exactly my point, someone "expressing" themselves isn't nescessarily telling the truth. As I said you seem to be interested in the same ideas that I am, but the difference is I will not believe in fish alien men just because someone thinks they exist.

reply to post by DragonriderGal


As adorable as you are I really wish you would condense your replies!

That btw, was mostly because of the NWO bunch trying to make us forget them (because we liked them a LOT better than the NWO bunch), and when they couldn't, they tried to trivialize them by trying to make us believe that they were just made up beings. Sadly, you are walking, talking proof of how effective their propaganda was, eh?

Have you got proof of this?

And just because YOU choose to believe someone else's opinion over getting inside yourself and learning to trust your own inner voice, doesn't make it true either. Really, if you saw how spun current 'science' was, it is quite likely you would be poo-hooing yourself as well, for being so gullible.

Correct opinion not fact

And not many elves currently are on earth. Only about 15 or so, plus some lesser elves to help them. I told you they mostly left when the rescue ships got here at the turn from B.C to A.D.

Could you prove this? Where abouts do these little elves live? Ever seen one? Didn't think so...

Well, they had the chance when I was getting my double masters in systems counseling. I am guessing they might have mentioned it, since this program is all about giving feedback about how you impact others, from the others themselves ie classmates, faculty, even admin people if you want it from them. And gee, funny how most thought, that while I was a bit less social than I could be, they also said I was one of the smartest emotionally aware people in the class. *shrug* I am sure they were all lying, because only you know the 'truth', right?

Considering your that emotional aware I wouldn't think you would need to resort to using *shrugs* to get your opinion accross, no?

Actually if you watch the chemtrails, sometimes they get smudged and sorta go sideways. While you might think it is the wind, often times some are smudged, some aren't. That is usually the sylphs, clearing the toxins out of the chemtrails. They try to get all of them but sometimes the NWO has sooooooooo many of them, I don't think they can get to them all. I have seen days where there are 3 to 4 planes flying back and forth across the sky here.

It's contrail hun. Although the theory interests me, Sylphs however do not.

Huh. Cloud eating dragons??? Boy, talk about making things up! Maybe that is why you are so suspecious of me, because you yourself have such a hard time rememberng the 'truth', and so spin stuff to try to make your point more 'valid'. Oh and btw, YOU were the one who stopped posting over on 'violent encounter'. You gave up, saying there wasn't any reason to keep posting because I never gave you proof or answered your questions. Both of which were lies as well. The only problem is YOUR interpretation of 'proof'. As to why you kept insisting I didn't answer your questions when I did, several times over, *shrug* I have NO idea what that is about other than you might be hoping no one would go back to read what I wrote and see for themselves.

Cloud eating dragons yes, see your post above, Sylphs.

You are also correct, no point in arguing with someone who can't back up their statements.

Well, laughing is good for you. I think you basically just can't hang with the idea of aliens, period, for some reason. What DO you think they should look like, in order for them to be 'real'??

Laughing is good DragonriderGal and for that I thank you, because you make me laugh alot! I'm not sure what they should look like to be honest, I've never seen one, I guess they could look just like me or you...

Because he isn't as spun by the NWO crap as you are. Spinning spinning spinning. And you don't even see it. Kinda sad, really.

So the government is trying to hide the fact that aliens, elves, sylphs and fish aliens exist?

You can say what you like, but your lying is far from accessing and reporting out what is seen in the racial unconscious. Listen for the inner voice, like xds777 does. My impression of him is that he is far more spiritually awake and aware than you.

If you consider being gullible then yes your probably right!

My only mystery is why you don't use the brain you have; all of it, not just the left part. Wake up

I'm using it now and its obviously working since you can't give me a straight answer. Oh wait, there are no straight answers are there?

And again, just what 'should' an alien look like???

You tell me, your the one who sees them...

Yes it is a free board and as always you are entirely welcome to express your OPINION, but that is all it is, your opinion. So you have doubts, that is fine. But often you attempt to discredit ME versus the information. Now that isn't nice, eh?

Unfortunately what your saying is only your opinion, you can't prove it to be information

Man, that is a fantasy world you live in! One or two people post who you probably begged to come over and stick up for your side and all of a sudden you had all these 'replies' backing your case and tearing mine down. *shakes head* All I can say is WOW.

Thats all I can say really when I read the crap you spout, WOW!

One of the biggest issues at hand is the lack of responsiblity people are willing to engage in to find truth for themselves. The longer many of you scream "I want proof" the farther away you get from anything remotely resembling any sort of truth. You have to experience, yes, EXPERIENCE it for yourself. That is what she, and many others on here have done, only to have it thrown back in our faces and called crazy.

If you want proof, if you want understanding, if you want to see and experience the vast amount of realities that truly exist, then you have to do the work. You have to want, and embrace it, for yourself, not for anyone else. Do some meditation, partake in a drumming circle, go on a vision quest, talk to the indeginous cultures, do something, anything, that takes you out of your comfort zone, and something that will help remove boundaries. Start up a dream journal, work on lucid dreaming, Astral projection, out of body experiences. Something, the choice is yours, and thats exactly the point.

Nobody is saying you have to believe anything she or anyone else says, thats for you to decide, but you aren't do yourself or anyone else any good telling us how crazy and how much nonsense this is. This current reality is more nonsense than anything else. Look around you. FEEL, don't sit in a state of mind about, don't try to continually intellectualize and conceptualize it all. Expand outwards and inwards. Find a good heart space to do it in.

There is such an unbelieveable amount of lifeforms out there, and in the spaces between spaces, that most people would probably would be terrified, which is unfortunate because thats exactly how the TPTB want us to be. The longer we afraid to explore and learn on our own, the longer we stay controllable, and stay asleep to our true potential.

We aren't alone, we never have been, and we never will be.

Be In Peace.

[edit on 6-10-2009 by Asmus]

Originally posted by Death_Kron
reply to post by DragonriderGal

 

As adorable as you are I really wish you would condense your replies!

I bet you would. And I am still as cute as ever.

Have you got proof of this?

*shakes head* Aren't you ever going to get why 'proof' is irrelevant?

Correct opinion not fact

Opinions are opinions. None are 'correct' or 'incorrect'. They are simply what you believe based on what other opinions you believe. Actual 'Proof' doesn't exist because it is only someone elses opinion. Period.

Could you prove this? Where abouts do these little elves live? Ever seen one? Didn't think so...

Hum, well if you think 7' + is little, you do have a bit of a warped sense of size. *lol* And I talk to Michael out in the spirit realm regularly. If you don't or can't believe such things are possible, well that is sad, but not my problem, eh? I think they still live up on the top of mountains to get away from us at time pesky humans. Of course they take care to make sure that they aren't detected, because the NWO bunch would try to go after them if they thought they could get away with it.

Considering your that emotional aware I wouldn't think you would need to resort to using *shrugs* to get your opinion accross, no?

No. *looks at you like she might a retarded brother* That I am emotionally aware, is irrelevant. I prefer to make my communications as clear as possible and that includes adding elements that provide insight into my emotional state as well.

It's contrail hun. Although the theory interests me, Sylphs however do not.

I am talking about chemtrails, poopsie pie. Contrails are the things normal airplanes leave behind which dissipate after a few seconds, not linger all day and leave a slimy haze that ends up filling the whole sky by the end of the day. Might want to do some research into that, eh?

Cloud eating dragons yes, see your post above, Sylphs.

Sylphs aren't dragons. They are air elementals. See, that is the type of thing you do. You say something that YOU misunderstood and try to make it sound like I said it. *rolls eyes* Lame, very lame.

You are also correct, no point in arguing with someone who can't back up their statements.

No point in YOU arguing with someone. And your opinion of what is required to 'back up their statements'. Only your opinion, yet again.

Laughing is good DragonriderGal and for that I thank you, because you make me laugh alot! I'm not sure what they should look like to be honest, I've never seen one, I guess they could look just like me or you...

Nope, then they would be human. Why in the world would they look like us?? Are you that species-centric that you can't fathom them looking like anything else??

So the government is trying to hide the fact that aliens, elves, sylphs and fish aliens exist?

I really have a hard time believing you are this naive, for all you say that you are so 'wise' and in the know, simply because your opinion matches a bunch of other NWO spun stoogies opinions. THe NWO so hides any information about this stuff, but hey if you are a NWO flunkie, then you already know that.

I'm using it now and its obviously working since you can't give me a straight answer. Oh wait, there are no straight answers are there?

Huh. All I see is you still only using the left half. I can't even get a sense of you knowing what the right brain does, much less let it do it's thing. You probably squash any and all 'hunches' and feelings right out of your awareness.

You tell me, your the one who sees them...

I have told you. Do you all see what this person does? It is just like this over on the violent encounter thread. First he says, oh, you are making things up, and now he says, you tell me, you're the one who sees them. He is inconsistent and obviously just trouble mongering. I vote 'troll' and possibly NWO affiliated.

Unfortunately what your saying is only your opinion, you can't prove it to be information

Your opinion is only your opinion as well. And anyone you quote will only have been expressing their opinion too. So your opinion isn't any more or less information than mine. Sorry.

Thats all I can say really when I read the crap you spout, WOW!

You know, you can go elsewhere and NOT read what I write. That would be fine with me. Obviously you are on some kind of control trip here and you're not going to succeed where better trolls than you have failed. I would refer you to a thread over on Myspace, but that troll (and he was a NWO stoogie, I am certain by some of the things he accidentally posted that weren't meant for the thread) ended up looking so bad he had to have one of the mods erase the whole thread so he could 'win', or at least not look so much like an idiot.

I don't think you can top Heathen Hammer, but go ahead, if you must. You too will probably end up looking like a manipulating control freak, just like he did. I am on to your little games, eh? *lol*

[edit on 6-10-2009 by DragonriderGal]

Originally posted by Asmus
One of the biggest issues at hand is the lack of responsiblity people are willing to engage in to find truth for themselves. The longer many of you scream "I want proof" the farther away you get from anything remotely resembling any sort of truth. You have to experience, yes, EXPERIENCE it for yourself. That is what she, and many others on here have done, only to have it thrown back in our faces and called crazy.

If you want proof, if you want understanding, if you want to see and experience the vast amount of realities that truly exist, then you have to do the work. You have to want, and embrace it, for yourself, not for anyone else. Do some meditation, partake in a drumming circle, go on a vision quest, talk to the indeginous cultures, do something, anything, that takes you out of your comfort zone, and something that will help remove boundaries. Start up a dream journal, work on lucid dreaming, Astral projection, out of body experiences. Something, the choice is yours, and thats exactly the point.

Nobody is saying you have to believe anything she or anyone else says, thats for you to decide, but you aren't do yourself or anyone else any good telling us how crazy and how much nonsense this is. This current reality is more nonsense than anything else. Look around you. FEEL, don't sit in a state of mind about, don't try to continually intellectualize and conceptualize it all. Expand outwards and inwards. Find a good heart space to do it in.

There is such an unbelieveable amount of lifeforms out there, and in the spaces between spaces, that most people would probably would be terrified, which is unfortunate because thats exactly how the TPTB want us to be. The longer we afraid to explore and learn on our own, the longer we stay controllable, and stay asleep to our true potential.

We aren't alone, we never have been, and we never will be.

Be In Peace.

[edit on 6-10-2009 by Asmus]

Thanks for saying it so clearly, Asmos.

And I agree. Don't just trash me without doing your own research DK. And that means not just taking some other NWO spun yahoos opinion as 'fact' either. Find your own 'facts' thru your own experience. .

[edit on 6-10-2009 by DragonriderGal]

reply to post by DragonriderGal

Opinions are opinions. None are 'correct' or 'incorrect'. They are simply what you believe based on what other opinions you believe. Actual 'Proof' doesn't exist because it is only someone elses opinion. Period.

Incorrect, proof exists in the form of evidence. If someone videos someone killing another then that is classed as proof, a digital medium such as a DVD recording isn't opinion petal...

Hum, well if you think 7' + is little, you do have a bit of a warped sense of size. *lol* And I talk to Michael out in the spirit realm regularly. If you don't or can't believe such things are possible, well that is sad, but not my problem, eh? I think they still live up on the top of mountains to get away from us at time pesky humans. Of course they take care to make sure that they aren't detected, because the NWO bunch would try to go after them if they thought they could get away with it.

I talk to Santa quite a bit aswell, he's a lovely bloke.

No. *looks at you like she might a retarded brother* That I am emotionally aware, is irrelevant. I prefer to make my communications as clear as possible and that includes adding elements that provide insight into my emotional state as well.

It's a shame for someone so emotionally aware that they can't convey their emotions or intentions without resorting to teenage IM speak.

I am talking about chemtrails, poopsie pie. Contrails are the things normal airplanes leave behind which dissipate after a few seconds, not linger all day and leave a slimy haze that ends up filling the whole sky by the end of the day. Might want to do some research into that, eh?

I'd check Contrails, you seem to be missing common understanding here.

Sylphs aren't dragons. They are air elementals. See, that is the type of thing you do. You say something that YOU misunderstood and try to make it sound like I said it. *rolls eyes* Lame, very lame.

Oh air elementals are they? Not cloud eating dragons? But they eat the toxins and are invisible? How convenient...

Nope, then they would be human. Why in the world would they look like us?? Are you that species-centric that you can't fathom them looking like anything else??

Yep, just dealing with known species.

I really have a hard time believing you are this naive, for all you say that you are so 'wise' and in the know, simply because your opinion matches a bunch of other NWO spun stoogies opinions. THe NWO so hides any information about this stuff, but hey if you are a NWO flunkie, then you already know that.

Yes I work for the CIA/NSA/NWO and rockefeller group

Huh. All I see is you still only using the left half. I can't even get a sense of you knowing what the right brain does, much less let it do it's thing. You probably squash any and all 'hunches' and feelings right out of your awareness.

Since when did you become a neural psychologist?

I have told you. Do you all see what this person does? It is just like this over on the violent encounter thread. First he says, oh, you are making things up, and now he says, you tell me, you're the one who sees them. He is inconsistent and obviously just trouble mongering. I vote 'troll' and possibly NWO affiliated.

I vote sad individual who likes to believe fantasy but don't let me stop you.

Your opinion is only your opinion as well. And anyone you quote will only have been expressing their opinion too. So your opinion isn't any more or less information than mine. Sorry.

100% correct DragonriderGal, the fact that seperates our opinions is common sense. Like I have already told you, believe what you want. But lets stop the coming on here telling people your opinions and making them out as the truth?

You can't prove a thing you have said and you know it, its all in your mind.

Do you know whats really funny?

In 5/10/15/20 years time nothing will have changed and anything you believe won't have happened

Edit to add:

And I agree. Don't just trash me without doing your own research DK. And that means not just taking some other NWO spun yahoos opinion as 'fact' either. Find your own 'facts' thru your own experience. .

I don't take hallucinogens hun.

[edit on 6/10/09 by Death_Kron]

reply to post by Death_Kron


I don't think anyone mentioned anything about hallucinogens. You are being extremely dismissive.

I tried to address different ways in which you can begin to find things out on your own.

Be In Peace.

i think that death korns problem isn't that he completly agaisnt what your saying, its that you don't attempt to provide croberating and comparative evidence to support.

its alot harder to acept extrordinary cliams when the only thing you give people for them to accept is your word.

and to be honest bickering with a person and insisting that your right with out giving further points the help them understand your views isn't the most convinsing to prove it

Well, you may be right, but not all evidence can be shown in the way people would like. It has to be found, and experienced, for themselves. I know it isn't easy, and not everyone should or needs to buy into everything. But thats sort of where I see things stagnating right now. I just had a similar episode about this with someone on myspace who is saying there is no way the soul exists because science doesnt have evidence for it. Well, darn, we're in trouble aren't we?

I just like to see people getting along and at least being kind to each other, regardless of what they agree/disagree on.

Be In Peace.

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Well, you may be right, but not all evidence can be shown in the way people would like. It has to be found, and experienced, for themselves. I know it isn't easy, and not everyone should or needs to buy into everything. But thats sort of where I see things stagnating right now. I just had a similar episode about this with someone on myspace who is saying there is no way the soul exists because science doesnt have evidence for it. Well, darn, we're in trouble aren't we?

i'm not saying that she has to prove it 100% to beyond a doubt with evidence, but she herself said that they should research it. i mean even showing external sorces about the type of medition or spirit journey she used to get the information or even info on the mythos creatures that she talks about.

I just like to see people getting along and at least being kind to each other, regardless of what they agree/disagree on.

i certainly agree and feel the same way, but both side are required to comprimise nad find a midle ground.

Peace

Originally posted by Asmus
reply to post by Death_Kron

 

I don't think anyone mentioned anything about hallucinogens. You are being extremely dismissive.

I tried to address different ways in which you can begin to find things out on your own.

Be In Peace.

I mentioned Hallucinogens because DragonriderGal said I should find out this information through my own "experience"

Well without further explanation the only route I know of seeing elves, "Sylphs" and fish aliens is by way of Hallucinogens.

And yes I have meditated before and had strange experiences but DragonriderGal talks as if she has spoke to aliens in real life!

Originally posted by RokNinja
i think that death korns problem isn't that he completly agaisnt what your saying, its that you don't attempt to provide croberating and comparative evidence to support.

its alot harder to acept extrordinary cliams when the only thing you give people for them to accept is your word.

and to be honest bickering with a person and insisting that your right with out giving further points the help them understand your views isn't the most convinsing to prove it

Thanks for that RokNinja, I've starred your post.

While in previous threads I have been mocking towards DragonriderGal, I have in later attempts tried to dull down my "ignorance" and ask for facts, evidence or further explanation in an attempt to understand her beliefs.

I usually then get told I'm not smart enough to understand anyways or that I'm an NWO flunkie.

The only thing I see DragonriderGal providing is her word, nothing more.

When I question her she gets very defensive and tells me shes right and that I'm wrong.

Maybe if she could at least present some sort of logic to her views then she would look just that little bit more credible?

ok, if taken the liberty of puting some links in mythology that i beleive atleast show the conitinous apearance the elf/nordic beings in mythology. i'm only going to use wikipedia for now because i'm not a very good research in that i memorise what i learn about myth and don't keep source but atleat wikipedia has links to other refernces and sources.

so if we start with the elfs (elves is a modern pronounceiation )

An elf is a creature of Germanic mythology. The elves were originally thought of as a race of minor nature and fertility gods, who are often pictured as youthful-seeming men and women of great beauty living in forests and underground places and caves, or in wells and springs. They have been portrayed to be long-lived or immortal and as beings of magical powers.

Elf - Wikipedia

you could also extend this to the greek deities although they were depited with dark hair although both are shown to be a powerful race of beings.

Greek Deities - Wiki..

if these beings were indeed real then their "magic powers" would have been based in technology that early humans would have no consept of and indeed would apear magical.

at the end of the roman empire there was major changes in culture and the transition from spirit and worshiping whole races of god like being to the mono-theistic views of Judaism, Christanity and Islam.

my belief is that these beings that were once seen as gods still apeared but with the common people having etheir dissmissed or forgoten about the old gods had to come up with a new explanation for what they were, this being in the form of angels and demons. the elf beings would have been seen as angels who were still seen as a race of beautiful, magical and immortal beings.

The earliest known Christian image of an angel, in the Cubicolo dell'Annunziazione in the Catacomb of Priscilla, which is dated to the middle of the third century, is without wings. Representations of angels on sarcophagi and on objects such as lamps and reliquaries of that period also show them without wings,[17] as for example the angel in the Sacrifice of Isaac scene in the Sarcophagus of Junius Bassus.

Angels - Wiki...

with the decline of religion in the modern era and most notablity this century the recognision of these beings have again changed.

Nordic aliens (Aryan aliens) is a name given to what are said to be a group of humanoid extraterrestrials. They are so named because they are said to resemble Nordic, Scandinavian, or Aryan racial images.

Nordic Aliens - Wiki...

so there you have the continous apearance of the same type of being under diferent names in diferent eras and cultures. In my searches i also belive that their are links with other reported alien beings.

Igigi (the Annunakis servents) - the Fae - the Greys

The Annunaki/Nephilm/Giants(greek myth) - Demons/Incubi/Sucubi - Draconian

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Thanks for that RokNinja!

A little bit of substance goes a long way, so it can be said with accuracy that a similiar type of creature has been depicted throughout history and although different names and terms have been used to describe it, more than likely we are talking about the same thing.

That doesn't go any near to proving everything DragonriderGal has to say is correct but its nice to establish something as fact.

The fact in this case being that a creature throughout history has been described and different eras have used different names for it but from descriptions it appears to be the same thing.

This unfortunately still doesn't prove whether it did exist or not, however it does lead to the question; well if it didn't exist why are there so many drawings and stories about it?

I would then start to question well obviously something existed if it been described by so many people...

See DragonriderGal, I'm not an "NWO flunkie" as you call me and I do have an open mind. However, its nice to look at things logically and not just tell me to believe things simply because you have told me them.

[edit on 7/10/09 by Death_Kron]

Originally posted by Death_Kron
reply to post by DragonriderGal

 

Incorrect, proof exists in the form of evidence. If someone videos someone killing another then that is classed as proof, a digital medium such as a DVD recording isn't opinion petal...

Well, my little dandelion, all evidence must be processed thru the viewer's brain. After that it is still just their opinion based on their interpretation of what they saw, aka an Opinion. You don't catch on very quickly, do you?

I talk to Santa quite a bit aswell, he's a lovely bloke.

Doubt it, but you might be talking to one of the archangels. They will play roles when they feel like it. And we already know you have NO clue about the spirit realm or the collective/racial unconscious, so to make such a statement is obviously something you just made up.

It's a shame for someone so emotionally aware that they can't convey their emotions or intentions without resorting to teenage IM speak.

In your opinion, and like I said over on 'violent encounter', I have NO idea how teenagers speak online, but it still makes me wonder what YOU are doing there, hanging around teen age girls.

I'd check Contrails, you seem to be missing common understanding here.

Nope, check chemtrails. They are being sprayed by the NWO to weaken and sicken us. Sick people don't resist take over bids as much, eh?

Oh air elementals are they? Not cloud eating dragons? But they eat the toxins and are invisible? How convenient...

Why would they be dragons to eat toxins and be invisible? You know you were just stretching there.

Yep, just dealing with known species.

Like I said, it is very clear you don't have any clue about the racial/collective unconscious or the spirit realm. Hence your glaring limitations. Sad, really.

Yes I work for the CIA/NSA/NWO and rockefeller group

Of course. I knew it! *lol*

Since when did you become a neural psychologist?

Doesn't take rocket science or neural psychology to see the limited manner with which you process information. The power of observation alone does the trick with something this obvious.

I vote sad individual who likes to believe fantasy but don't let me stop you.

Still voting you're a troll and probably at least being encouraged by NWO stoogies to keep trolling me. But hey you are also and always entitled to your opinion and your belief in NWO spun opinions they try to pretend are 'facts'.

100% correct DragonriderGal, the fact that seperates our opinions is common sense. Like I have already told you, believe what you want. But lets stop the coming on here telling people your opinions and making them out as the truth?

You can't prove a thing you have said and you know it, its all in your mind.

*looks at you again like that retarded brother* Everything is all in our minds. Everything you perceive is just your interpretation of what your senses are telling you. It is what you interpret that 'makes' the world around you, aka all in your mind. You are really slow to get that, aren't you?

Do you know whats really funny?

In 5/10/15/20 years time nothing will have changed and anything you believe won't have happened

Sure, and that is fine with me. I will keep doing my personal growth work because that is the one thing that really needs done, even without enlightenment at our door step. But when stuff starts happening, *shrug* well, don't say I didn't tell you so. Not that you wouldn't lie about that too.

I don't take hallucinogens hun.

Well, poopsie pie, neither do I. No excuse to not do your own exploration and gain your own experiences, eh?

Although you probably won't ever do such things because then you would see how outta whack your NWO spun opinions are, and you would probably rather chew off your own arm than admit that. *rolls eyes*

Originally posted by Death_Kron

Originally posted by RokNinja
i think that death korns problem isn't that he completly agaisnt what your saying, its that you don't attempt to provide croberating and comparative evidence to support.

its alot harder to acept extrordinary cliams when the only thing you give people for them to accept is your word.

and to be honest bickering with a person and insisting that your right with out giving further points the help them understand your views isn't the most convinsing to prove it

Thanks for that RokNinja, I've starred your post.

While in previous threads I have been mocking towards DragonriderGal, I have in later attempts tried to dull down my "ignorance" and ask for facts, evidence or further explanation in an attempt to understand her beliefs.

I usually then get told I'm not smart enough to understand anyways or that I'm an NWO flunkie.

The only thing I see DragonriderGal providing is her word, nothing more.

When I question her she gets very defensive and tells me shes right and that I'm wrong.

Maybe if she could at least present some sort of logic to her views then she would look just that little bit more credible?

Nope, sorry DK. All you did was keep asking the same questions over and over and over again and after about the third time thru, I figured it didn't matter how I explained them, you still wouldn't get it, so I stopped trying to answer them and told you, obviously if you hadn't gotten the idea by now, you must be too slow to figure it out so why waste my time any further?

And always I say you are entirely entitled to believe as you will and that your views are limited. YOU are yet again lying to try to make yourself look better. It is always YOU putting the 'right' and 'wrong' labels on stuff, poopsie pie, not me!

And your definition of logic? Somehow I don't think you really know either what that means. The information from the racial/collective unconscious is very logical; everything fits together and explains a LOT of why things are the way they are. *shrug*

So, go do some of your own explorations and gain some of your own experience, instead of trying to 'prove' mine is invalid. It is like you are using a topographical map with no roads on it and are accusing me of lying because I use a map with roads marked on it. You just don't have enough information, period.

[edit on 7-10-2009 by DragonriderGal]

Originally posted by Death_Kron
reply to post by RokNinja

 

Thanks for that RokNinja!

A little bit of substance goes a long way, so it can be said with accuracy that a similiar type of creature has been depicted throughout history and although different names and terms have been used to describe it, more than likely we are talking about the same thing.

That doesn't go any near to proving everything DragonriderGal has to say is correct but its nice to establish something as fact.

The fact in this case being that a creature throughout history has been described and different eras have used different names for it but from descriptions it appears to be the same thing.

This unfortunately still doesn't prove whether it did exist or not, however it does lead to the question; well if it didn't exist why are there so many drawings and stories about it?

I would then start to question well obviously something existed if it been described by so many people...

See DragonriderGal, I'm not an "NWO flunkie" as you call me and I do have an open mind. However, its nice to look at things logically and not just tell me to believe things simply because you have told me them.

[edit on 7/10/09 by Death_Kron]

I don't need anyone else's opinion aka something they wrote down in a book somewhere, to see what I see. Now that they also see this and interpret it as they choose and write it down, is fine. Or if they read someone elses opinion of what happened and add that to what they believed happened into a more multi-person opinion, well that is fine too. But it is to be understood that all of this is just opinion, period.

I still see the elves as the ancient gods of Greece, Rome, Norse mythology and the reason that Christianity was able to take over the 'religion' venue is because about that time frame was when the rescue ships arrived and took the elves back to their home world. So christainity filled the vacuum left by the elven departure.

The greys are entirely different and are our creators. And no matter how many times you ask me, I will say this, because that is what I am seeing thru the memories in our racial/collective unconscious.

So if you do believe in the racial/collective unconscious, what exactly do you think would be in it, but the actual history of humanity??? Do you really think we are being told the truth by the NWO bunch??

And as always, believe as you will, but by the same token, it is my right to believe as I will. It is YOUR insistence that because I don't believe like you and don't consider anything you might consider proof to be necessary for me, that I am 'wrong'. I however, don't think you are wrong, just limited.

[edit on 7-10-2009 by DragonriderGal]

reply to post by DragonriderGal


Haha, your an absolute fruit cake!

So the "NWO" is spraying the clouds with chemicals to weaken us while the "Sylphs" are eating the toxins out the air but at the same time fish aliens are using their EM sleep fields to investigate human babies but yet evidence is only a persons perception and you know from the racial unconscious what your saying is true because you saw the old indian man on your journey and alien DNA is among us but also the archangels are playing tricks on us but I don't know that because I'm narrow minded? But even so the elves and Unicorns are still alive however the NWO flunkies are still trying to brain wash people?

Jesus christ, listen to yourself. It really does sound like your the brain washed one...



[edit on 7/10/09 by Death_Kron]