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Originally posted by Death_Kron
Okay well I could be even more to the point if you wish?
Have you ever seen a "Sylph"?
The term originates in Paracelsus, who describes sylphs as invisible beings of the air, his elementals of air
Oh thats a shame, theyre invisible...
As I said, just because someone says something doesn't make it true and DragonriderGal speaks as if what she says is 100% fact when in reality its only her (misguided to say the least) opinions and beliefs.
Edit: Considering your the one supporting DragonriderGal and you mention consistent facts, could you supply me with one consistent fact that proves Sylph's exist?
Cheers,
[edit on 5/10/09 by Death_Kron]
In Rape of the Lock, Pope satirizes French Rosicrucian and alchemical writings when he invents a theory to explain the sylph. In a parody of heroic poetry and the "dark" and "mysterious" literature of pseudo-science, and in particular the sometimes esoterically Classical heroic poetry of the 18th century in England and France, Pope pretends to have a new alchemy, in which the sylph is the mystically, chemically condensed humors of peevish women. In Pope's poem, women who are full of spleen and vanity turn into sylphs when they die because their spirits are too full of dark vapors to ascend to the skies
Originally posted by Death_Kron
reply to post by DragonriderGal
Couldn't resist, you know I have an obsession with you
And depending on what you were, you might be able to 'eat clouds', like some of the sylphs that are helping clear our skies of toxins that the NWO is spewing out of those unmarked white planes. They are absorbing the toxin aka eating the 'clouds', eh?
But...
Sylph (also called sylphid) is a mythological creature in the Western tradition.
Definition of mythological:
fabulous: based on or told of in traditional stories; lacking factual basis or historical validity; "mythical centaurs"; "the fabulous unicorn"
I don't think its correct or very fair to lead the gullible by stating things of which you have no proof.
Unfortunately DragonriderGal, just because you believe something doesn't make it true. Unfortunately for me, theres people who will believe you regardless.
Hey, did you know I can leap through black holes?
Oh wait, I'm sure you can come up with another fictional possibilty where this can happen...
Edit: Regarding the will power I wish I had some, maybe then I could stop smoking
Originally posted by Death_Kron
reply to post by xds777
In Rape of the Lock, Pope satirizes French Rosicrucian and alchemical writings when he invents a theory to explain the sylph. In a parody of heroic poetry and the "dark" and "mysterious" literature of pseudo-science, and in particular the sometimes esoterically Classical heroic poetry of the 18th century in England and France, Pope pretends to have a new alchemy, in which the sylph is the mystically, chemically condensed humors of peevish women. In Pope's poem, women who are full of spleen and vanity turn into sylphs when they die because their spirits are too full of dark vapors to ascend to the skies
The term Sylph originates from poetry and fictional writing, need I say any more?
Without proof what DragonriderGal is presenting is simply opinion.
It's not fair to talk about something as if your a subject expert when whats being said is simply someones ideas, opinions or "experiences"
Originally posted by xds777
Originally posted by Death_Kron
Okay well I could be even more to the point if you wish?
Have you ever seen a "Sylph"?
The term originates in Paracelsus, who describes sylphs as invisible beings of the air, his elementals of air
Oh thats a shame, theyre invisible...
As I said, just because someone says something doesn't make it true and DragonriderGal speaks as if what she says is 100% fact when in reality its only her (misguided to say the least) opinions and beliefs.
Edit: Considering your the one supporting DragonriderGal and you mention consistent facts, could you supply me with one consistent fact that proves Sylph's exist?
Cheers,
[edit on 5/10/09 by Death_Kron]
Read the disclaimer, she says where the alleged information comes from in her first post, the "Original Post" aka. OP.
Never did she state that she had physical evidence for the type of work she's posting conclusions on. Nor is the work of that type of nature. Which comes obvious.
About Sylphs, yes I guess they're invisible. "We" also don't know if Sylphs is a misguided subject, a correct subject or a subject at all. What we do know, is that psychic phenomena is a common and getting more "commoner", alleged phenomena today. Have the majority of the cases been proven wrong, or been properly debunked? No.
I'm not in collaboration with DragonriderGal.
I just like to keep atleast one thread from what has already been said a thousand times over.
[edit on 5-10-2009 by xds777]
He couldn't out maneuver me over on 'violent encounter with an alien being' which for some reason he seemed to feel was his personal mission to criticize and belittle anyone who dared say they believed DanT might have actually had that encounter, and now that that thread has dropped off, I guess he was getting bored so he wandered over here. But he won't out maneuver me here either
Originally posted by Death_Kron
reply to post by xds777
On the contrary I understand exactly the sentiment of your posts and replies. You obviously find it hard when someone questions your belief from a scientifical point of view, I know you find that difficult - as shown in your lack of responses to my countering posts.
As I said to DragonriderGal, who am I to judge what you want to believe?
I can have my own opinion, just as you can yours, and I'm sorry but like it or not I think your both pretty deluded.
But as always the my offer still stands, prove to me Elves, Unicorns and cloud eating dragons exist then I'll happily stand down.
If you can't prove it then I guess I'm correct again, just because you believe something doesn't make it true.
On the converse just because I don't believe in something doesn't make it untrue.
However I have scientific, logical and factual reasons for disbelief when the pair of you have none to prove the opposite.
Originally posted by RokNinja
reply to post by Death_Kron
hey Death Korn
i know that DRG puts forward a lot of mythical creatures that in my opinion don't exsist and i have debated that with here before, but don't dissmiss the whole concept the alien/myth link coause not all of it matches.
i came to the conclusion on a few of these my self even before reading any of her stuff.
IMO the early acounts of the norse elves are almost identical to nordic type beings people describe. the greys also match the early medieval period description of Fae(fairies) to the point of being only distigused by what they are said to be. (if you into the secret sociotie coverup stuff i always find it amussing that the depiction of fairies changed to the modern pixie stuff in the same period that the illuminatte poped up )
Originally posted by Death_Kron
reply to post by xds777
Now we are talking! Although you have slightly disappointed me in one sense...
I have heard of every single thing you mentioned in your post and just like you they absolutely fascinate me, I also disagree with the big bang theory and laugh when people suggest anything other then creation.
The human body is perfect and so is the natural world mathmatically.
There are hundreds of thousands of mysteries waiting to be solved and its one of my passions reading about and debating these marvels.
You have desribed alot of the things in your post that I too are interested in and I'm pretty sure we could have a good debate however you've disappointed me when you even begin to even wonder about "cloud eating dragons"
I don't have a closed mind, in fact I'm very open minded but I also use common sense. Some doors in my mind need proof to open and at this moment in time I find the idea of fish aliens and cloud eating dragons completely laughable!
Judging from your post you have a healthy intellect and some sort of scientific grounding, why then do you believe some of the fantasy tales that DragonriderGal comes out with?
Reading some of her posts it looks like she's simply picked up a couple of Sci-Fi/Mythology books, picked out various terms and then strung them together.
If I told you I've spoke to Santa Claus would you believe me?
By the way the only thing in your post I don't think alot of is remote viewing although I'll admit its probably one of the things that I know the least of.
Finally, yes the mysteries of the mind are something that I'm very interested in.
Originally posted by xds777
Well I hope it endavours into learning some lessons for everyone reading this thread. I just feel he was very very shell-like and didn't reciprocate my concepts in his posts like he had an understanding of what I meant at all.
This was commoner before, I think a few peope got the hung of reality so to say, and there seem to be a chain reaction from a number of other sources too. People today seem to be better at valuing life today than in the 90s, take this statement with a grain of salt, it is from my perspective and company. I mean it's the whole thing, ignorance in abundance and scepticism to big levels, bigger than normal. It's like they don't trust their eyes and ears anymore, less anyone else. Yes sir yes sir yes. Why sir?
[edit on 5-10-2009 by xds777]
Originally posted by Death_Kron
reply to post by DragonriderGal
You know I'm not sure what it is, maybe deep down inside I actually like you but I'm too narrow minded or insecure to tell you...
If you want to believe Unicorns, Sylph's, Centaurs and elves are real then who am I to stop you?
But let me stress once again, just because you believe something doesn't make it true.
There's having an opinion and theres also having an informed, scientifical, logical opinion.
But as always, believe what you wish.
You know I'm not as closed minded as you actually think, I'm open to a lot of theories and situations. However, I really don't think elves live on this planet but people don't know because of the "NWO"
You do also realise that if you spoke to any psychologist you would be branded clinically insane?
A Sylph is an invention of fiction, why you cannot see that I do not know. If you can prove to me one exists then I'll accept that...
Originally posted by xds777
Do you, think, that I started as a religious freak going blindly after the love&light propaganda? I was tending to avoid that path, and I'm extremely logic/scientific setup, but I did know of my own existence and I therefore had to conclude there was an organizing force that must have had traits of intelligence to create the complexity of life found atleast on EARTH. Do you know, how extremely extremely advanced a bacteria is, and how the possibilities for all the probably tenfolds of machineries small and big alike, for the possibilities to theese to arise? Let alone the chance that the proteines of an amino acid clump up in codes of unbearable importance. Consider this, along with the debate they now have about how chemical compounds cannot randomly connect in a meaningful combination (life) in a prehistoric sea of the earth millions of years ago.
Then, after that, I would like you to eye material that concerns the work of an asian scientist named Masaru Emoto with ice crystals and the power of intent. Continue on to reading experiments conducted with DNA, that prooves DNA too exhibits in detail the properties of quantum entanglement (pretty spooky stuff eh? =D).
There's alot of scientific experiments (which is why I don't understand why the scientific crowd doesen't get atleast abit convinced. Sure, if you missed reading the material, well here you go.) that has been conducted concerning metaphysical stuff being credible to a degree. Also check the russians experiments with TRIANGLES and pyramids (see pyramids, might have had a function due to their geometric). Food inside the pyramid rots slower etc. lots of other points, all "life encouraging". Space plasma forming into the DNA doublehelix in zero-gravity with it's codes which of prooves to be of specific biologic life-dependant properties.
Explain the pyramids to me, 20 years they said they were built in. Explain Remote-Viewing (Ingo Swann is a good starter, check around on threads on ATS forums for the thread with the Ingo Swann "Penetration" e-book, it's supposed to cost money supposedly and is rare, so it's a good deal for you). Please explain why everything appears in fractals more or less. Why is geometry present everywhere in a possibly random universe? What's the law of attaction and how does it work? Why don't we or the sun get hit by a large comet and wipe (a comet double the size of jupiter surpassed the solar system a few months ago, this was not released in the media until after the event even though it was recognized, the reason was most likely they thought we were doomed, lookup jupiters size)? Why is there SO MUCH we do not know the answer to admittedly, yet people are close minded?
There's alot of material. I'm sorry for going offtopic on your thread Dragongal. I guess I'm just trying to answer the man's questions.
divinecosmos.com /
Originally posted by Death_Kron
reply to post by xds777
You have desribed alot of the things in your post that I too are interested in and I'm pretty sure we could have a good debate however you've disappointed me when you even begin to even wonder about "cloud eating dragons"
I don't have a closed mind, in fact I'm very open minded but I also use common sense. Some doors in my mind need proof to open and at this moment in time I find the idea of fish aliens and cloud eating dragons completely laughable!
Judging from your post you have a healthy intellect and some sort of scientific grounding, why then do you believe some of the fantasy tales that DragonriderGal comes out with?
Reading some of her posts it looks like she's simply picked up a couple of Sci-Fi/Mythology books, picked out various terms and then strung them together.
If I told you I've spoke to Santa Claus would you believe me?
By the way the only thing in your post I don't think alot of is remote viewing although I'll admit its probably one of the things that I know the least of.
Finally, yes the mysteries of the mind are something that I'm very interested in.
Originally posted by RokNinja
reply to post by Death_Kron
hey Death Korn
i know that DRG puts forward a lot of mythical creatures that in my opinion don't exsist and i have debated that with here before, but don't dissmiss the whole concept the alien/myth link coause not all of it matches.
i came to the conclusion on a few of these my self even before reading any of her stuff.
IMO the early acounts of the norse elves are almost identical to nordic type beings people describe. the greys also match the early medieval period description of Fae(fairies) to the point of being only distigused by what they are said to be. (if you into the secret sociotie coverup stuff i always find it amussing that the depiction of fairies changed to the modern pixie stuff in the same period that the illuminatte poped up )