Dealing With Denial of the NWO, the Coming Economic Collapse and the Second American Revolution

I dont deny any of this is happening. I just dont care. Its going to happen and that is all there is.

Let's hope this is all true, because this republic needs a revival. The tree of liberty needs blood to grow, from that seed of dissent sown by tyrannical governments.

reply to post by Evasius


The video is good and it shows what is happening in many Democratic Countries (you can replace Democratic with Socialist these days)

1. Disarm the population making them serfs and slaves to the Government for all things.
2. Devalue the fiat money they carry making it worthless to spend.
3. Take over of the educational systems making the younger generations much more stupid then the older.
4. Create TV shows to placate the masses with 'Reality' Shows to make them hunger for the next show and the next season.

The list goes on and on. I suggest you all get to know your neighbors and form neighborhood watch groups, or trusted friends and family that have the same survival instincts you have to bond together in groups.

This coming New World Order is coming and it’s not going to be pretty so prepare for the worst. We will have to fight soon enough!

reply to post by VDOG.45


The Reality Shows is to acclimate, condition us all into constant surveillance....that way it doesn't feel so 'weird' to have a camera on us 24/7

reply to post by HunkaHunka

I could care less if there is an NWO or not... my concerns are not with worldly items but the subjective sphere of existence.

Now this does not even qualify as denial, more like a psychotic lapse of reality bordering on schizophrenia. I know a couple of excellent doctors I could recommend for you young man; they have good medications to control such problems.

Originally posted by Clark Savage Jr.
I would advise we all are careful not to confuse disagreements in severity with 'denial'....

Until these internet/MSM driven fear-mongering scenarios have been translated to the everyman---and make no mistake,they absolutely have NOT been----then this entire matter is being overstated and exaggerated.

Exactly the problem with most of the American electorate; feeling all is not right they continue on UNTIL they are hit in the face with the destruction they have tried to ignore…

However, there are many who have been trained to perceive coming danger, those trained to aid in a countries slide, or defend against it. They are the shadow warriors who fight the dirty fights when called on; they are the men your mother warned you about and you have nightmares about meeting. They and those who have trained with them have seen this ‘hand writing on the wall’ for some time; they are the ones who have written on net boards like ATS for years while being laughed at and ridiculed by the infantile who think themselves wise, and the legends in their own minds who think themselves world class intellects.

They have warned you and you did not listen, even though the were trained to do exactly that; they have attempted to guide you in reasoned thought to see what is plainly there to see if you would but take off your rose colored glasses, yet you continue on, like some mindless procession into oblivion.

We will however continue to warn, as this is our duty, we will stand even when you hide, as this is our honor, and we will fight even if you run, as this is our courage; we can do nothing less, as this was our oath.


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reply to post by HunkaHunka


For all the flowery verbose garbage that you stated, all I you ended up stating was "MONEY MONEY MONEY MONEY! ME ME ME ME AND MONEY!" Oh, and apparently how you consider your EMPLOYEES as slaves to the system. Nice to know how you feel about the people that are actually helping you earn all your money.

Yet you continue to disregard what I have already stated. To US, it's NOT about the money! It's about OUR rights! Yes, we are very well aware that the system right now is corrupt and has in some way, made us slaves to it. No DUH! That's exactly what we are trying to correct in the first place! Some of us want the govt. to stop ignoring the voice of the people, and for once, do what's right for the people, not for their special interest groups. But you just don't give two s*its about it.

At least you won't until they come a knocking at your door and arrest you for having a differing opinion than the messiah's. Or how about when they start asking/demanding that you give up YOUR FREE TIME, to do MANDATORY community service? See, some of us would like to continue our lives unhindered, without being labeled or called a criminal without just cause. ESPECIALLY, if that means that the govt. can come crashing down your door and arrest you, your family, seize any assets, without just cause, and apparently according to the patriot act, without a judicial warrant. Which is incredibly unconstitutional. But then again, you probably didn't know that, or cared, because all YOU care about, is your money, your material goods, the VERY thing you accuse US of being. Well keep on daydreaming hippie.

Pretty it up all you want, it won't change these facts. Stop bringing up the issue of materialism as it is irrelevant to our argument, and you're simply trying to sidetrack the issue.

Read the declaration of independence sometime. There's a reason why the word INALIENABLE is there! they CANNOT be taken, not by you, not by our govt. Not by ANYBODY! Only US, the people can be bullied into submission and giving them up, and guess what? I AIN'T BUDGING B*TCH!

I am not in denial.

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For SGTChas,
I have to ask.. is money the only thing you care about? what happened to the fellow man. Sticking together through rough times. If your lust for money is what motivates you the most and you turn your back on your fellow countrymen don't expect them to come out in your time of need. Instead of being open to a difference of oppinion you tend to criticize and bash them. In my opinion that type of closed mindedness is what most dangerous. Look if the american majority who are watching closely that either voted or support the government and the policies to fix the biggest f+** up in recent history feel threatened they will stand as we did after 9/11. We are strong and intelligent. We are not fear-paranoid (unlike others i could mention) We dont try to stir up trouble when there is no need. I have read many of your post and do research on the topics to fully understand the situation. I think its about time that you crwled out of your bomb shelter and got some fresh air. Go for a hike, a bike ride concert. Look the problem we are in is a big one that was not caused by the current administration. Its just like buying a house, sometimes you need to make repairs because the previous tenants were a couple of frat boys. Its going to cost an arm and a leg to fix but in the end the value of the property has increased. All im trying to say is that it takes time and work to build on perfection (America) If you cant see that America has and always will be a work in progress than Sir, SGT you are a blind man. The point of this post is to perhaps help a person whos wild paranoid delusions may have got the best of him. Or perhaps jealousy from a lost election

reply to post by SchefSalad


Dear SchefSalad, Sir I have no idea what could ever suggest to you that all I am concerned with is money, perhaps you could enlighten me as to where you got such thoughts? Now as too your crass generalizations and equally crass assumptions, I live every day dealing with the animating life of a father with a teen daughter, son and an eight year old; hardly the life of a bomb shelter paranoid recluse, which of course you would know if you had really read all my post.

You can continue in your denial as is your right, I will continue to do my duty - as not you or any one of your ilk will be able to stop me as long as I breath.

PS: Since I have not voted in an election since Ronald Reagan I have no reason for “jealousy”, only pity for the poor duped saps who continue to ride the ‘hamster wheel’ of our two party system while thinking that they are getting somewhere.


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Originally posted by SGTChas
reply to post by SchefSalad

 

Dear SchefSalad, Sir I have no idea what could ever suggest to you that all I am concerned with is money, perhaps you could enlighten me as to where you got such thoughts? Now as too your crass generalizations and equally crass assumptions, I live every day dealing with the animating life of a father with a teen daughter, son and an eight year old; hardly the life of a bomb shelter paranoid recluse, which of course you would know if you had really read all my post.

You can continue in your denial as is your right, I will continue to do my duty - as not you or any one of your ilk will be able to stop me as long as I breath.

I wonder if he was referring to Hunka, who seems to be the one of the few here actually making such a big deal about wealth and materialism. Oh well, just goes to show to what extents the delusional will go in order to prove themselves right. Some people just aren't interested in truth or facts, no matter how much evidence you show to the contrary. As one, John adams once said, Facts are tricky things, you cannot change them, no matter how you may wish to otherwise.

Well i think you guys have got a long 4 to 8 to infinity yrs ahead of you and the climate of thought around this discussion thread...scary. So i guess the only thing to do is say goodluck stay healthy and safe. May all of you be presented with the treasures you seek and im sure youll be seeing alot more of me just keep an eye out.

Originally posted by Question
reply to post by HunkaHunka

 

For all the flowery verbose garbage that you stated, all I you ended up stating was "MONEY MONEY MONEY MONEY! ME ME ME ME AND MONEY!" Oh, and apparently how you consider your EMPLOYEES as slaves to the system. Nice to know how you feel about the people that are actually helping you earn all your money.

Two things you missed....

1. We are ALL ALREADY SLAVES to the system.... not just my employees but me too
2. You don't know what my relationship is with the people who work for me... what did I say... Jobs are for losers... except what? Except if you are saving your money to start your own business.... I create entrepreneurs... And in return, they earn me money...

So don't go acting like I'm some kind of slave owner... we are all in the same boat... the difference is some people wake up, and others don't

Yet you continue to disregard what I have already stated. To US, it's NOT about the money! It's about OUR rights! Yes, we are very well aware that the system right now is corrupt and has in some way, made us slaves to it. No DUH! That's exactly what we are trying to correct in the first place! Some of us want the govt. to stop ignoring the voice of the people, and for once, do what's right for the people, not for their special interest groups. But you just don't give two s*its about it.

Oh I do... the thing is though, that I don't give two wags of a tail about the obecjtive world at all... there are no real rights there... I care only about the subjective sphere and changing my reality from the inside...

Believe me, it's much less temporal than having to exchange one system for another system... I don't need anyone saying what rights I have or don't...

FREEDOM IS A MYTH

At least you won't until they come a knocking at your door and arrest you for having a differing opinion than the messiah's.

Why would my opinion differ?

Or how about when they start asking/demanding that you give up YOUR FREE TIME, to do MANDATORY community service?

I already do community service... It's one of the only true pleasures I get in life...

See, some of us would like to continue our lives unhindered, without being labeled or called a criminal without just cause.

So live your life in a way that you won't be labeled or called a criminal...

ESPECIALLY, if that means that the govt. can come crashing down your door and arrest you, your family, seize any assets, without just cause, and apparently according to the patriot act, without a judicial warrant.

And why would they do that if you weren't breaking a law? Or even suspected of breaking a law?

Which is incredibly unconstitutional. But then again, you probably didn't know that, or cared, because all YOU care about, is your money, your material goods, the VERY thing you accuse US of being. Well keep on daydreaming hippie.

My material goods are only trophys... I don't care about them all that much... although I do like them ;-)

No you missed my message...

I ONLY CARE ABOUT MY SUBJECTIVE SPHERE...

You don't get it yet... I create my own reality, and so do you... I create it with my views, my interpretations of events, my will, and my thought patterns.

Just like you... that is the only true power there is in this world...

Pretty it up all you want, it won't change these facts.

What facts?

Stop bringing up the issue of materialism as it is irrelevant to our argument, and you're simply trying to sidetrack the issue.

Not at all.. I'm trying to let you know that riches and power all come from our mindsets... it has nothing to do with materialism...

It has to do with inner liberation... the only true liberation there is...

Read the declaration of independence sometime. There's a reason why the word INALIENABLE is there! they CANNOT be taken, not by you, not by our govt. Not by ANYBODY!

Yes... you hit the nail on the head... no one can ever take your rights away... because according to our founding fathers... they are inalienable... meaning that there is nothing to fear... they are there whether you live under an oppressive govt or not...

Only US, the people can be bullied into submission and giving them up, and guess what? I AIN'T BUDGING B*TCH!

I bet that makes you feel good... in the end... that's all that matters....

No one is asking you to budge.... not a bit... but if you need to read that into what how you interpret your world in order to feel meaningful... then so be it...

It's all about will to meaning... not will to power....Objectivism has failed.

reply to post by SchefSalad


You’re leaving the thread? Why thank you. Could you please take Hunkahunka with you? Your insolence is only surpassed by your ignorance. Pray tell, with your head so far up yours, how could you possibly see where any one else’s is?

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reply to post by HunkaHunka


Oh! Subjective Sphere! Oh I GET IT NOW! You've been watching/reading "the Secret" Got it. Now I KNOW for sure you can't be taken seriously (whereas before, I just thought you were just seriously misguided)

Ok, carry on with your new age illusions hippie. Some of us have to go back to the real world.

reply to post by SchefSalad


Oh, and a pleasant thought for you; as I am a 100% Decorated Disabled Vet – YOUR TAXES PAY FOR ME TO HAVE TIME TO PUBLISH on ATS! How about that for irony?

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Well than ill say i respect your duty to this great country but i will not be silenced no matter who or what. Enjoy my money hopefully i can give you more.
Anything i can do to help my fellow american

[edit on 16-6-2009 by SchefSalad]