The Emergence of President Obama's Muslim Roots

Originally posted by andrewh7
reply to post by FlyersFan

 

If you don't trust Obama, don't vote for him in 2012.

Don't worry, I don't and I wont.

He is to appeal to every race, he is the new Tutankhamen. Giver of life.

This is out of hand just address the issue and show the certificates that aren't just proving a child was born that day. Show how he is not directly connected to his father, he is his fathers son, his mother was a minor when she gave birth.

Originally posted by Prokopio
hehehe. settle down ladies...

just two points:

1) There is never any clause in the US constitution that says Muslims cant be presented.
2) There is never a President who ran for election in any country that had been truthful. ALL had in one way or the other been lied just to get elected.

So just consider where the US is now after being run by how many so called "truthful" Presidents? Go back to your history, take away emotions, clarify the facts, analyze the situation the country is in now (what, when,why and how) and then I guess thats the time you pound those keyboards again and begin posting.

Doing these would probably make "OPEN MINDED and INTELLIGENT" make sense...

Similarly to what I've told others that take the stand you have, you are advocating saying OK to lies and liars simply because others have done it. You also seem to be saying that our laws can be "cherry picked" especially by senior elected and appointed officials as which ones will be obeyed and which can be ignored. Again, this is the definition of anarchy.

Are you really sure you want to associate your name (well, avatar) with that line of thinking? Can't we all aspire to having our leaders be better than that?

The fact is he lied about everything.

He is not American, You have to be one to be president of the USA.

The cover-up of this is so blatant that it is really ridiculous that most here on ATS witch is know for investigating and blowing cover-ups wide open don't think he is lying or don't care.

Its called being brainwashed by evil. Heck we even have Brian Williams now bowing to him like he is a king or maybe he thinks he is God after their so friendly meeting. The reason he bowed is that he is acknowledging that he is a loyal servant.

www.youtube.com...

Obama has been pushed to the most powerful position in the world because he is the Anti-Christ!!! He has more beloved followers than any so called politician and they will do anything to protect him from being exposed. Most will realize this when he receives the normally fatal head wound and survives to proclaim he is the real messiah.

Blind sheeple need to wake up and smell the hell he is cooking for us all.

reply to post by Sky watcher


Honestly, I was suspicious like everyone else but I've decided he is just not smart enough to be antichrist.

Originally posted by sos37
Did you know that Muslims have okayed the killing of members of their religion who leave the Muslim religion for another religion?

Did you know that Muslims will kill anyone who publicly writes negatively about their religion or draws pictures of Muhammed?

How about Muslims believing that it's okay to kill their daughters if they want to marry a boy from another religion?

Yah! The Muslim Faith is nutty...It's not like the bible....

Exodus 21:7
"When a man sells his daughter as a slave, she shall not go free as male slaves do."

Exodus 35:2
"On six days work may be done, but the seventh day shall be sacred to you as the sabbath of complete rest to the LORD. Anyone who does work on that day shall be put to death."

Leviticus 11
and the pig, which does indeed have hoofs and is cloven-footed, but does not chew the cud and is therefore unclean for you.
Their flesh you shall not eat, and their dead bodies you shall not touch; they are unclean for you."

Christians must hate football and bacon!

Lev 20:9, If there is anyone who curses his father or his mother, he shall surely be put to death;

Lev 20:19 in which any man who has sex or sees naked a woman on her period, then both should be exiled?

Lev 20:27 in which fortune tellers/mediums should be stoned to death?
'Now a man or a woman who is a medium or a spiritist shall surely be put to death. They shall be stoned with stones, their bloodguiltiness is upon them.'"

Lev 24:16
'Moreover, the one who blasphemes the name of the LORD shall surely be put to death; all the congregation shall certainly stone him.

Just this week a doctor was gunned down by Christian Fundementalists

Christian terrorism
en.wikipedia.org...

KKK, Army of God, Christian Identity (Bombed the Olympics in Centenniel Park) Aryan Nation, Lambs of Christ etc.

Yah those Muslims are bad news.

reply to post by Sky watcher


And my favorite....Obama the Anti-christ..who needs the race card when you think he is the incarnation of satan on earth There is medication available out there.

reply to post by maybereal11


If we lived in the Old Testament times, then you would have a point (at least about the scriptures)... all that changed with the New Testament and the coming of Christ... good try though

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reply to post by maybereal11


I really love how you had to go back 3 - 4 thousand years. Lots of things were different then. Why don't you quote from the New Testament, from the words of Christ (Christ - Christian, get it?)

reply to post by maybereal11


As much as you have enjoyed rallying around the issues here, interjecting as much racism into your own remarks, I'd be surprised if you had anything better to do with your day if we did take the meds.... who would you debate with?

Originally posted by sos37

Maybe any of you educated Democrats or Liberals out there can shed some light on that question. You chastized the Republican party for the last eight years and now claim the extremists in the Republican party have made it the party of hatred and intolerance, but you make excuses for your own president belonging to a RELIGION that STILL TO THIS DAY has extremists who advocate violence and intolerance. You make EXCUSES for your president and you go on bashing another party!!!

How are the two any different??? Come on! I DARE you to explain that one to me.

(1) He does not belong to the Muslim religion. That is the consistent truth from books to speeches to present.... and all the rest doesn't hold any water. None. Spin, BS, contorted, painfully out of context crap...just that simple.

(2) You jump from Islamic "Extremists" to the Muslim faith as a whole in a millisecond without any shame. See my posts concerning Christian Extremists like the one that shot a doctor a few days ago or the ones that bombed the Olympics.

You condemn the entire Muslim faith for the actions of extremists out of intellectual laziness or a soul predisposed for hate...either way, who cares, the BS is easily made apparent as it should be.

Does that answer your question?

Its funny how a few ask here "Whats wrong with him being Muslim?". You guys who ask are completely missing the point. I am Hispanic but with Muslims in my family. Both my parents are from the Dominican Republic but on my fathers side my grandfather was from Lebanon and was a devout Muslim. There is nothing wrong with it. What is wrong is that OBAMA LIED.... HE LIED poeple. Why does that not bother some of you. He flat out lied... What else has he lied about. He is taking this country down a very destructive and socialist path while he is smooth talking his way through it. Do some research. Every dictator from Stalin to Hitler to Castro always preached about HOPE and a time for CHANGE. They used words as their weapon until they were elected into power. Now the Government owns most banks has a lead 60% share with our auto makers except FORD and I applaud them for that. Whats next. Energy. What we can and cannot drive. When we can use electrical power. Obama has done one hell of a job pulling the woll over the American poeples eyes. Wake up America or you will lose this great land to a European style of socialism. I love America and would hate to see her fall into this socialist state. WAKE UP THE MAN IS A LIAR.

Originally posted by Bombeni
reply to post by maybereal11

 

I really love how you had to go back 3 - 4 thousand years. Lots of things were different then. Why don't you quote from the New Testament, from the words of Christ (Christ - Christian, get it?)

Every qoute was from the "New American Standard Bible" sitting on my desk. Copyright 1998?

3 or 4 thousand years???? Thats when you think the bible was written?

Originally posted by maybereal11

(1) He does not belong to the Muslim religion. That is the consistent truth from books to speeches to present.... and all the rest doesn't hold any water. None. Spin, BS, contorted, painfully out of context crap...just that simple.

The quoted article in the OP implies that he does. What, are you calling ABC News a right wing propaganda site now?

(2) You jump from Islamic "Extremists" to the Muslim faith as a whole in a millisecond without any shame. See my posts concerning Christian Extremists like the one that shot a doctor a few days ago or the ones that bombed the Olympics.

You condemn the entire Muslim faith for the actions of extremists out of intellectual laziness or a soul predisposed for hate...either way, who cares, the BS is easily made apparent as it should be.

Does that answer your question?

And how the hell is that ANY DIFFERENT from what the Democrats and Liberals are doing to the Republicans??? They jump from Right Wing "Extremists" to the "Republican Party" as a whole in a millisecond without any shame.

There are many Democrats/Liberals, some on this board, who condemn the entire Republican Party for the actions of extremists out of intellectual laziness or a soul predisposed for hate...either way, who cares, the BS is easily made apparent as it should be.

You see? Using your own words and changing the names of the involved parties, it's EXACTLY THE SAME THING.

reply to post by maybereal11


When was the last time that a Christian or a Jew has sold their daughter into slavery, been killed for working on the sabbath, stoned for being a psychic, stoned for being blasphemous, stoned for ANYTHING?

It is not relevent what the Bible says. What is relevent is what people do who believe in the bible or in BHO's case, the Koran.

When is the last time a man was beheaded for being an infadel? When is the last time a woman was stoned for having an affair? When is the last time a person's hand was severed for stealing?

It happens right now in the year 2009 in the Middle East and Asia. It is carried out by GOVERNMENTS not angry mobs. No president of this Country should subscribe to this idealogy and have access to the US Military. His beliefs affect his judgement. If his judgement is impared by this violent religion, he isn't fit to be the president. If the American public really had all the information, they would never had allowed this guy into the Oval Office.

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reply to post by maybereal11


Just to add, you don't think the Bible was written in 1998, do you? You do understand that the old testament has been around for at least 4000-5000 years, and the New Testament is 2,000 years old?

Two points.

1. Mr. Obama's religion is irrelevant. It has nothing to do with whether he is or will be a good president. It is his personal choice, none of our business.

2. Muslims don't attend Christian churches. In fact, Muslims are prohibited from befriending Christians or Jews. They certainly aren't permitted to attend worship their services.

3. Muslims must pray five times a day, kneeling and bowing towards Mecca and the Ka'aba each time. So far, no one has commented on Obama doing this.

4. Islam has strict dietary laws, similar to the Jewish kosher laws. Obama is not observing these.

5. I don't know whether Mr. Obama drinks at all, but of course alcohol in any form is strictly forbidden to all Muslims, all the time.

So, even if Mr. Obama is a Muslim, he isn't a *good* Muslim. But really, he's a Christian, and it's not the least bit important. Separation of Church and State, remember? Thomas jefferson, remember him? He's the guy who wrote up the U.S. Constitution. He didn't put "separation of church and state" in the Constitution, but he did use that phrase in explaining himself, in a letter to some religious leaders.

reply to post by centurion1211


No, I think what he's saying is that deceit is built into our political system. We cannot ever get a president who isn't an accomplished liar, because he'd never make it through the first local vote. He'd say things like "We'll have to raise taxes and cut down on services, in order to balance our budget", and that would be the last anyone ever heard from him.

We all know there are going to be more taxes, fewer services, more problems, etc., but we punish the politicians who speak theze unpleasant words. We insist that they tell us sweet lies, or we won't vote for them.

Read my lips: "No New Taxes". Sound familiar?

Oh, a politician *LIED* to use - oh, goodness gracious, I am so upset. Come on. It's only a huge issue because you don't like Obama, and found (or think you found) a clear instance of him lying.

Here's some news for anyone who missed the past couple of centuries:

POLITICIANS LIE. WE INSIST THAT THEY DO. IF THEY DON'T LIE, THEY DON'T GET ELECTED.

This thread is an Obamanation.


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Originally posted by Stormdancer777


He lied, he is a liar.

Childish statement. You messed up once, you're a mess-up!

What did he lie about? That he wasn't Muslim? He went to a radical christian church for 20 years. You know, you can't have it both ways.

Why did he lie?

Again, what did he lie about?

First we were racist to shut us up.

You are racist if you think being Muslim is a bad thing. Duh.

The perfect set up.

And you bought it hook, line and sinker.

AAC

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