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Originally posted by mhc_70
reply to post by maybereal11
From the article...
Insert by Maybereal11 *Denis McDonough said *
the President himself experienced Islam on three continents before he was able to -- or before he's been able to visit, really, the heart of the Islamic world -- you know, growing up in Indonesia, having a Muslim father -- obviously Muslim Americans (are) a key part of Illinois and Chicago."
-snip-
The candidate's comment at a Boca Raton, Florida, town hall meeting on May 22, 2008, was typical: "My father was basically agnostic, as far as I can tell, and I didn't know him".
Originally posted by freighttrain
To judge a man by his religion/faith shows how shallow you think!!
Originally posted by 720degrees
Do your research ISLAM comes from the vatican. So Muslim and Christains worship the same european/arabic God Yahweh/Allah.
Originally posted by neformore
Nothing in that article suggests Obama has lied about anything. All it suggests is that his fathers roots were downplayed during the campaign in order to pander to the lowest common denominator.
Originally posted by midiola
I'd rather have someone lie to me in order to really help this country ...
Originally posted by maybereal11
He has not lied.
He is TOLERANT and ACCEPTING of other faiths
...as were our founding fathers.
Originally posted by gimme_some_truth
My question is this... So what? Would you really not vote for a person soley because he is not christian>
I am ashamed at the intolarence I am seeing here today
Originally posted by maybereal11
In one polling place in Philadelphia, yes two self proclaimed black panthers stood outside a polling place with billy clubs claiming to provide security for African American voters ...
Originally posted by andrewh7
If you have a problem with Obama's polices, say so. Attacking the man's personal history is really out of line -
Muhammad said: "Lying is wrong, except in three things: the lie of a man to his wife to make her content with him; a lie to an enemy, for war is deception; or a lie to settle trouble between people" (Ahmad, 6.459. H).
Taqiyya is the principle that is if lying serves an Islamic cause, then dissimulation may be employed.
Qur'an 2:225. "Allah will not call you to account for thoughtlessness (vain) in your oaths, but for the intention in your hearts; and He is Oft-forgiving, Most Forbearing."
To speak to the "Muslim world", is to speak not to a fact, but rather to an aspiration, and that is the aspiration that Islam shall be a global state religion as its founders intended. To address this aspiration is to breathe life into it . For an American president to validate such an aspiration is madness. America is not at war with Islam, unless, that is, Islam were to take a political form that threatens America's global interests. These interests include friendly relationships with nation-states that have a Muslim majority, such as Egypt, Turkey and Jordan. To address "the Muslim world" is to conjure up a prospective enemy, for global political Islam only can exist as the enemy of the nation-states with which America has allied.
Obama, the White House press office told reporters last week, will address among other issues the Arab-Israeli issue. What does it imply to raise this issue in a speech to the "Muslim world"? Nearly 700 million of the world's 1.4 billion Muslims live in Indonesia, Pakistan, India and Bangladesh, countries which share no linguistic or cultural affinities with the Arabs, and have only religion in common.
Originally posted by andrewh7
This man's religion is completely irrelevant. I don't think he's a Muslim and I wouldn't care even if he was.
Although anecdotal evidence is typically insufficient to prove a point, it can be valuable to disprove a premise that overgeneralizes, e.g., all Muslims are terrorists.
If you have a problem with Obama's polices, say so. Attacking the man's personal history is really out of line
Show all of us a minimum amount of respect and stop claiming that his religion is unimportant ...
If this "scandal" was that Obama was a member of some group whose members are all criminals, then I would show it greater interest.
www.washingtonpost.com...
BESLAN, Russia, Sept. 4 – Hundreds of children, their parents and teachers died in the bloody culmination of a 52-hour siege that began when heavily armed Muslim guerrillas stormed their school Wednesday and ended in an hours-long battle with Russian troops Friday.
news.bbc.co.uk...
2002: Dozens killed in Bali nightclub explosion
Reports from the Indonesian holiday island of Bali say more than 50 people have been killed in two explosions.
www.cbsnews.com...
(CBS/AP) A video posted on an Islamic Web site Monday showed the beheading of a man identified in the tape as American construction contractor Eugene Armstrong.
The killing was purportedly carried out personally by top terror suspect Abu Musab al-Zarqawi.
In Washington, a U.S. official, speaking on condition of anonymity, said Armstrong's body had been recovered, but the official would provide no information about where or when it had been found.
www.nypost.com...
An upstate TV exec who set up a channel promoting Muslims as peace-loving people was stressed about his failing business in the days before he allegedly chopped off his estranged wife's head, a friend of the couple said today.
Originally posted by FlyersFan
LA Times - Wrong Venue for Obama's Muslim Speech
America is not at war with Islam,